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Ferrari is bigger than Santander. Ferrari is bigger than Fernando. I wouldn't disagree with that but like i said i wonder what Alonso's take on it would be? If Alonso were getting a fair shot at succeeding and Massa was beating him straight up, I think Alonso would understand the team's decision to...

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Blake wrote:while on the topic... an interesting, quick read....

http://www.motorsport.com/all/news/alon ... all-massa/

Interesting he finds Alonso tougher than Schumacher

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pokerman, I am sure that Alonso understands that Ferrari is the team, not Santander, not Fernando. Of course, the team is going to consult with their drivers on matters relevant to the drivers, but in the end, they will do what they feel is best for the team... which is exactly what they should do....

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I've already explained my argument. You can assess the times over the 18-race season and make your own conclusions, though I feel you reached yours the minute Ferrari was involved. I'm not blaming Massa for Hamilton's mistakes. It just highlights that he had an imperfect title rival - only in his s...

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Ferrari is bigger than Santander. Ferrari is bigger than Fernando. I wouldn't disagree with that but like i said i wonder what Alonso's take on it would be? If Alonso were getting a fair shot at succeeding and Massa was beating him straight up, I think Alonso would understand the team's decision to...

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pokerman, I am sure that Alonso understands that Ferrari is the team, not Santander, not Fernando. Of course, the team is going to consult with their drivers on matters relevant to the drivers, but in the end, they will do what they feel is best for the team... which is exactly what they should do....

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I've already explained my argument. You can assess the times over the 18-race season and make your own conclusions, though I feel you reached yours the minute Ferrari was involved. I'm not blaming Massa for Hamilton's mistakes. It just highlights that he had an imperfect title rival - only in his s...

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Toby, You keep going on and on about Massa being assisted by the FIA, and a mistake prone opponent... while himself is just a mediocre driver in the fastest car. What inside information do you have that makes you so damn certain? BTW, I fail to see how you can blame Massa because his opponent was "...

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ashley313 wrote:Ferrari is bigger than Santander. Ferrari is bigger than Fernando.

I wouldn't disagree with that but like i said i wonder what Alonso's take on it would be?

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I guess you have to decide how much Senna's retirements were down to him or down to bad luck, if down to him then there was not much between them at all, if not then you have to consider that head to head when both drivers finished Senna would more often than not finish in front of Prost and most of...

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ashley313 wrote:Ferrari wants to win and they will back whichever horse looks best.

That might well be what Ferrari wants, what does Alonso want?

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It won't happen, not while Alonso is there as he's the clear number one driver. Until Alonso has a foot hold over Massa in the championship Massa will be held back massively or just not allowed to open up. That's how it works with the Alonso number one driver policy. Expect him to struggle behind A...

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Laura23 wrote:If he keeps up the late 2012 form then he could very well. He had the measure of Alonso in American and Brazil on pace.

I can't help feeling that Alonso started to succumb to pressure though

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ashley313 wrote:They all say the next season is their year. As they should. No place in the sport if they don't think they can do it. If you go into a season thinking anything else, it surely WON'T be your year.

Just sound bites then

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Massa might be the new DC, next year was always going to be his year

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I'm wondering how many 19 year olds have been placed in the 3rd fastest car in F1? Ricardo Rodriguez was 19 when he drove an F1 car for the first time and put it on the front row at the 1961 Italian Grand Prix. Ricardo was only a tenth behind pole man and team-mate Wolfgang von Trips and well ahead...

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I'm not sure about Vettel having tonnes of time in the car looking back. On Wiki it's only got him down as having been test driver for BMW Sauber for 7 races, and I imagine that would be the usual FP1 only programme, so that would only amount to just over 10 hours in the car before his debut. Edit:...

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It's from 2011 but I just came across it and thought it might be of interest. http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/59263.html In no apparent order (includes replacement drivers): G Villeneuve R Kubica G Baghetti M Andretti S Vettel R Rodriguez M Webber M Schumacher J Alesi Not sure what the cri...

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Fiki wrote:I'm not sure I understand how burning your clutch constitutes a great F1 debut.

I think the qualifying performance might had somethng to do with it

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It's from 2011 but I just came across it and thought it might be of interest. http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/59263.html In no apparent order (includes replacement drivers): G Villeneuve R Kubica G Baghetti M Andretti S Vettel R Rodriguez M Webber M Schumacher J Alesi Not sure what the cri...

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The perception that Prost was the thinker and Senna was the quick one seems to have become set in stone but it wasn't that simple IMO. They were far more closely matched on both fronts than legend suggests. I understand our human desire to categorise drivers, and that's lead to a significant exagge...

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Di Resta has allot of bashers on here ^ It's quite sad so much disrespect is shown to F1 driver's on here by many of the forumers who lower the forum. Di Resta says nothing wrong and is not disrespecting anyone. I guess the crux of the matter is that he thinks he deserves a drive in a top team whil...

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Paul Di Resta has been at the Autosport international and they have written a few articles about what he has said which includes - Di Resta held initial talks with McLaren about a 2013 seat - Di Resta was suggested to Force India by Martin Whitmarsh - Di Resta is determined to get a seat at a top t...

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Laura23 wrote:Last time Alonso and De La Rosa were in the same team together it benefited Ferrari too...

Yes it sort of shows the hypocrisy of Ferrari in their idignation regarding spygate

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The problems is that if checo starts to perform well, Button would try to sabotage him and demoralise him with mind games. I expect a lot of fireworks between the two. Button already started it by boasting about leadership at McLaren or saying if he was driving his McLaren in the same way as Perez ...

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I don't think Red Bull would even think about stooping that low Red Bull blatantly take advantage of the car design rules. Ferrari blatantly take advantage of the racing rules. They cancel each other out in my book. One is as low as the other. (Here's the secret - every single team out there will s...

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We can attempt to answer this question with some empirical data. Alonso and Vettel have never been teammates, so we can't really directly compare them. However if we take their head-to-head statistics against previous teammates and derive a heirarchy of driver performance: Alonso? Probably not, bas...

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Depends how you define being beat, if you're just using WDC points and are handicapped in 50% of your races then quite a few drivers i would say

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We can attempt to answer this question with some empirical data. Alonso and Vettel have never been teammates, so we can't really directly compare them. However if we take their head-to-head statistics against previous teammates and derive a heirarchy of driver performance: Alonso? Probably not, bas...

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We can attempt to answer this question with some empirical data. Alonso and Vettel have never been teammates, so we can't really directly compare them. However if we take their head-to-head statistics against previous teammates and derive a heirarchy of driver performance: Alonso? Probably not, bas...

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Agreed he would have a heads up but how much time does it take the likes of topliners like Alonso and Hamilton to get up to speed, Massa was at Ferrari for over 3 years but Alonso had him beat from the get go, i just don't believe it takes drivers like these that much time to get on top of what the...

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I think yes as he will not be up against Hamilton. I think its a possibility that Heikki would still have been around for longer than he did had he had a team mate like button, no offence to button, Since Heikki had Hamilton who is frankly among the fastest drivers in the world he was outperformed ...

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I think yes as he will not be up against Hamilton. I think its a possibility that Heikki would still have been around for longer than he did had he had a team mate like button, no offence to button, Since Heikki had Hamilton who is frankly among the fastest drivers in the world he was outperformed ...

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I think he will do better in the races although Heikki is perhaps a better qualifier

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Which significant part of Raikkonen's car was alongside Alonso's in Suzuka? Raikkonen's front wing touched the back of Alonso's rear tyre; for example, if I am not mistaken the current overtaking rules state that in order to gain the position a car's front wing has to be level with the other car's ...

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Heikki needing more time to get use to the new parts than Hamilton is surely down to him, i know Hamilton had to make an adjustment to his driving to make some of the up grades work, McLaren weren't prepared to slow development down waiting for Heikki to catch up, this is what some feared might hav...

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i don't know how you saw Suzuka, but that was a racing incident that apparently you are chosing to put on Alonso's shoulders, not a squeeze. Look, when a driver is next to you with a significant part of the car, and you move his side resulting in the fact the driver has to go off-track or lift in o...

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Would it have entered their mind to pull the car and make setup changes? Of course it would. They are in sorry shape if that didnt occur to anyone there :lol: There are plenty of good reasons not to do it though, beginning with their data probably showing not significant advantage, or a lack of dat...

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Who knows. It's a bit like asking did Red bull ever think about giving webber agrid drop to help Seb. Even if it did think about it whether they would do it. Remember Whitmarsh making comments about their Sponsors not liking them flying so close to the wind on Regs? Can't remember his exact words b...

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M Nader asked how would JB and KR do against Vettel. Interesting one, because in some ways Jenson and Kimi are similar drivers, very sensitive to chassis balance and sometimes being too smooth to warm their tyres. I think Vettel would beat them both in same-cars. JB is not as fast as Lewis, and I d...

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