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Laz_T800

Erm, how does Max get away with that.
Everyone backed off and Max comes steaming through with Bottas sat in the barriers.
I thought after Nico did a similar thing you had to visibly slow down under double yellows?

Laz_T800

Mexico

1/ Vettel
2/ Leclerc
3/ Vestappen
4/ Hamilton
5/ Bottas
6/ Albon
7/ Sainz Jr
8/ Norris
9/ Perez
10/ Ricciardo

Laz_T800

Mercedes turned a certain 1-2 into a 1-3. I'd love to hear the reasoning.
Even if they did want to give the race to Bottas, they surely didn't have to chuck 2nd place in the toilet in doing so.

Laz_T800

Ah *inaudible*

Japan
1/ Hamilton
2/ Bottas
3/ Verstappen
4/ Leclerc
5/ Vettel
6/ Albon
7/ Sainz Jr
8/ Perez
9/ Norris
10/ Gasly

Laz_T800

Russia
1/ Leclerc
2/ Vettel
3/ Hamilton
4/ Bottas
5/ Verstappen
6/ Sainz
7/ Ricciardo
8/ Norris
9/ Albon
10/ Hulkenberg
9/

Laz_T800

Singapore

1/ Hamilton
2/ Verstappen
3/ Bottas
4/ Leclerc
5/ Albon
6/ Vettel
7/ Ricciardo
8/ Hulkenberg
9/ Sainz Jr
10/ Kvyat

Laz_T800

. Again ! Why do people vote for the person who leads from the front in the fastest car - that is not a way to choose a "driver of the day". What did Leclerc do to earn that accolade. . Adsorbed pressure from the very best in the game for almost the entire race. I thought it was a terrific win. He ...

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. Again ! Why do people vote for the person who leads from the front in the fastest car - that is not a way to choose a "driver of the day". What did Leclerc do to earn that accolade. . Adsorbed pressure from the very best in the game for almost the entire race. I thought it was a terrific win. He ...

Laz_T800

Monza

1/ Leclerc
2/ Vettel
3/ Hamilton
4/ Bottas
5/ Albon
6/ Raikkonen
7/ Sainz Jr
8/ Verstappen
9/ Ricciardo
10/ Perez

Laz_T800

Ah poop!

Spa

1/ Vettel
2/ Hamilton
3/ Leclerc
4/ Verstappen
5/ Bottas
6/ Raikkonen
7/ Norris
8/ Ricciardo
9/ Gasly
10/ Perez

Laz_T800

Hungary

1/ Verstappen
2/ Hamilton
3/ Leclerc
4/ Bottas
5/ Vettel
6/ Gasly
7/ Sainz Jr
8/ Ricciardo
9/ Norris
10/ Raikkonen

Laz_T800

Germany

1/ Hamilton
2/ Leclerc
3/ Verstappen
4/ Bottas
5/ Vettel
6/ Gasly
7/ Ricciardo
8/ Sainz Jr
9/ Norris
10/ Raikkonen

Laz_T800

This conversation reminds me of 2007/2008 when discussing Hamilton versus Alonso. Just as it was obvious back then that Hamilton was going to be a top drawer driver back then, it is obvious that Max is going to be a top drawer driver as well. But just as it was ridiculous to say that Hamilton was t...

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Not really, all the cars run at the same pace so being on badly worn tyres isn't a problem, also there is no need to refuel anymore. I missed the V part of VSC. Not sure it would have made a difference to Hamilton and Bottas even if it had have been a VSC today. As for the Pit lane being closed und...

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P-F1 Mod wrote: Mikey said VSC, not SC.

Was confused by the lack of VSC in the race.

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OK so they still aren't even lined up and the car has been cleared. So why on earth was it not dealt with under the VSC! Why not just leave the car there in the first place? It's not in a dangerous place; the only thing that makes its place dangerous is retrieving it. Since there's no reason for do...

Laz_T800

I'd be interested to know how Bottas ended up on an inferior tyre strategy to Hamilton. Did he request the early stop? Did Hamilton refuse an early stop and then request the hard tyres? Either way that was the deciding factor today, not the Safety Car. Because Seb was also capable of a 1 stop they ...

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Having to submit the next 2 races entries due to Holidays! Austria 1/ Hamilton 2/ Bottas 3/ Vettel 4/ Verstappen 5/ Leclerc 6/ Gasly 7/ Sainz Jr 8/ Ricciardo 9/ Norris 10/ Perez Great Britain 1/ Hamilton 2/ Bottas 3/ Leclerc 4/ Verstappen 5/ Vettel 6/ Norris 7/ Ricciardo 8/ Sainz Jr 9/ Gasly 10/ Hul...

Laz_T800

It's pretty relevant TBH. If you add a little nuance and take out first and last season the cross team mate comparison is generally a good predictor. Obviously not fool proof though. But it's all based on the Button/Perez season being seen as equal. 1/ they only had one season together 2/ They were...

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7-6 to Perez but with Button having a better average of 0.06s, I tip you just took 5 minutes to get all that off a website that just throws everything into the mix whereas I discount wet sessions and were drivers had to be in the same sessions when they set their times, so basically I throw out all...

Laz_T800

It's pretty relevant TBH. If you add a little nuance and take out first and last season the cross team mate comparison is generally a good predictor. Obviously not fool proof though. But it's all based on the Button/Perez season being seen as equal. 1/ they only had one season together 2/ They were...

Laz_T800

How fast is Verstappen relative to Hamilton? The Ricciardo/Hulkenberg and Ricciardo/Vettel cross comparisons basically suggest that Verstappen is around 2 tenths quicker than even Hamilton/Alonso tier [/u] I know sounds absurd, but that is what the numbers say. Yeah I'm aware of that, it's still to...

Laz_T800

How fast is Verstappen relative to Hamilton? The Ricciardo/Hulkenberg and Ricciardo/Vettel cross comparisons basically suggest that Verstappen is around 2 tenths quicker than even Hamilton/Alonso tier [/u] I know sounds absurd, but that is what the numbers say. Yeah I'm aware of that, it's still to...

Laz_T800

The way things are going there is obviously no reason to replace Bottas.
If your primary objective is to see Hamilton beaten more frequently then I'd say Max is the only man for the job on the grid currently.

Laz_T800

Back to the race. Just watched the race again. Honestly, what was the Ferrari plan to get Vettel past Verstappen. After Vettel passed Sainz he was consistently faster than Verstappen and had closed the gap from 8.5 secs to 3 secs when Max pitted. At this point Seb carried on for another 5 laps and l...

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JN23 wrote:So Ferrari's significant new evidence was Karun Chandok's analysis on Sky. I mean, really Ferrari?

I imagine the stewards struggled to keep a straight face.

Laz_T800

Vettel looked back in control at this point.
Clearly he should have left Hamilton room on the track.
Slam dunk penalty.

Laz_T800

France

1/ Hamilton
2/ Vettel
3/ Bottas
4/ Leclerc
5/ Verstappen
6/ Gasly
7/ Ricciardo
8/ Sainz Jr
9/ Hulkenberg
10/ Perez

Laz_T800

It was pretty great, the kind of stuff we want to see more of, he made his point in a harmless and pretty hilarious way. Wouldn't have really made much difference if he had skipped the podium entirely but I was glad he didnt in the end as he was able to address the crowd about not booing Hamilton, ...

Laz_T800

It was pretty great, the kind of stuff we want to see more of, he made his point in a harmless and pretty hilarious way. Wouldn't have really made much difference if he had skipped the podium entirely but I was glad he didnt in the end as he was able to address the crowd about not booing Hamilton, ...

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It was a tantrum, similar to ones we've seen before from Vettel and Max. I found the swapping numbers thing childish and disrespectful. As recently as Monaco, Vettel benefited from a penalty that bumped him up to 2nd. Would he have found it acceptable if Max had have taken his 2nd position marker an...

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http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page=chart&gp=1024&graf=3&dr1=Lewis%20Hamilton&dr2=Sebastian%20Vettel Just looking at the race lap comparison, 3 things stand out. 1, Vettel lost less than 2 seconds of lap time in the incident. The only way he loses so little IMHO is by nailing the throttle all t...

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http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page=chart&gp=1024&graf=3&dr1=Lewis%20Hamilton&dr2=Sebastian%20Vettel Just looking at the race lap comparison, 3 things stand out. 1, Vettel lost less than 2 seconds of lap time in the incident. The only way he loses so little IMHO is by nailing the throttle all th...

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My opinion on the penalty? For me it's entirely based on what Seb did as he rejoined the track. If he floored the gas and caused the back end to snap out he deserves the penalty. If he was coasting back and it snapped on him I'd suggest that the penalty was harsh, as in my opinion he was doing every...

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Does anyone have sector times from qualifying? I think Hamilton had a yellow S3 on his second lap so I was wondering if he had equalled his first run time in S3 whether he'd have got pole, but I doubt it. No. There was never a chance of pole once Seb hooked up his lap perfectly. http://en.mclarenf-...

Laz_T800

Montreal

1/ Bottas
2/ Hamilton
3/ Vettel
4/ Verstappen
5/ Leclerc
6/ Gasly
7/ Magnussen
8/ Ricciardo
9/ Kvyat
10/ Sainz Jr

Laz_T800

Lap after lap of yellow for a small spin in the pit lane.
I guess someone has a bet on Pagenaud for the win.
Absolute joke the further this goes on.

Laz_T800

Boring race as expected. I think the most annoying part is the driver at lead can crawl to the victory and rest can't do anything about it as there is barely space for 2 cars :uhoh: Same for the midfield battle. Ricciardo and KMag got behind and were stuck in traffic. Sainz got lucky and STR simply...

Laz_T800

Monaco

1/ Bottas
2/ Vettel
3/ Hamilton
4/ Verstappen
5/ Grosjean
6/ Leclerc
7/ Ricciardo
8/ Sainz Jr
9/ Gasly
10/ Norris

Laz_T800

Spain

1/ Leclerc
2/ Hamilton
3/ Bottas
4/ Vettel
5/ Verstappen
6/ Gasly
7/ Sainz Jr
8/ Hulkenberg
9/ Raikkonen
10/ Norris

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