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Alonso 2013 WDC

Merc W04 an utter stinker

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No. Why not? I'm sure McLaren would love Vettel! Surely they would, Whitmarsh has openly said they tried to sign him at the end of 2008, and they will be trying again when he will be moving away from Red Bull. This, any team would bend over backwards to sign a proven multiple WDC, this guy brings h...

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I agree. Outright speed isn't everything, it's how you use it. I personally think Vettel utilises his talents better than Hamilton. That's why one has a single World Title and the other three. fully agree. imo vettel is the best driver in f1 right now. you don't win 3 consecutive world titles by lu...

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Luca's gone way up in my estimation 8) Well said, although to be fair it does go without saying, Vettel's a proven winner, whereas Hamiltons inconsistency see's him struggle against the likes of Vettel & Alonso, I believe if McLaren had either of those drivers in their team they'd have won the titl...

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Luca's gone way up in my estimation 8) Well said, although to be fair it does go without saying, Vettel's a proven winner, whereas Hamiltons inconsistency see's him struggle against the likes of Vettel & Alonso, I believe if McLaren had either of those drivers in their team they'd have won the title...

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Very good. Shame usually basher had to come in to bash. Did I bash? Nope I just pointed something out. His timing goes out every time the other guy accompanies him. In my book that means his playing isn't "quite good" . In fact if you are playing with other people it's bloody useless. Timing is kin...

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stuff I love your blustering return to the topic 10 mins later for a second bite of the cherry, "And another thing!!!" :lol: :lol: This remarkable certainty that Hulkenberg would have won, McLaren finish exactly second and third, Ferrari exactly fourth an.... zzzzz is all baseless speculation to su...

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They haven't really though. None of the "big 3" are squarely faster than their teammates all the time. They either both achieve similar times at some point throughout the weekend, or trade off on weekends when one has a couple of tenths up on the other. The only time you see the real difference is ...

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They haven't really though. None of the "big 3" are squarely faster than their teammates all the time. They either both achieve similar times at some point throughout the weekend, or trade off on weekends when one has a couple of tenths up on the other. The only time you see the real difference is ...

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They haven't really though. None of the "big 3" are squarely faster than their teammates all the time. They either both achieve similar times at some point throughout the weekend, or trade off on weekends when one has a couple of tenths up on the other. The only time you see the real difference is ...

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You've said the same as the other chap, less the little tirade, I know, it reeked of sour grapes, I said as much in another reply, you've quoted the wrong post I think. Still, thanks for posting the link, sour grapes text in full taken from the video : "..incredible how Sebastian came up from the pi...

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Not an F1 show as such, group B rallying, unfortunately just starting now on BBC4.. (12.00AM 14th December) Should be on iPlayer though for anyone interested : From the producer of Grand Prix: The Killer Years and the Grierson-nominated Deadliest Crash: The 1955 Le Mans Disaster. In the 1980s rallyi...

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sorry j man.... any ranking on this forum is going to be somewhat out of balance. Hamilton is, has been, and most likely continue to be a forum favorite... hence the difference. That is just the way it is. This poll was of the Team Bosses, not fan based. Team bosses are fans, too. Team bosses don't...

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Blake wrote:sorry j man.... any ranking on this forum is going to be somewhat out of balance. Hamilton is, has been, and most likely continue to be a forum favorite... hence the difference. That is just the way it is.

This poll was of the Team Bosses, not fan based.

Spot on.

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John McGuinness, 130MPH average lap speed around the island, mind boggling. Also Joey Dunlop, Phil McCallen and all the TT nutcases to be fair! Saw McCallen clean up in 1996, what a bonkers weekend. Rallying, Juha Kankkunen in the group B Peugeot 205, watched him come through Sutton Park in 1986 as ...

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Newey is great, Red Bull team is great, Vettel is not. Stewart is absolutely right. Vettel since 2009 had dominant cars in, I would say, 80-90 % of races. There are many reports cars were 15-20 kph quicker than the rest in corners, that's unimaginable advantage. It's baffling how he lost in 2009 ha...

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I believe it was in reference to the Abu Dhabi GP itself, not him being the luckiest driver of the season/in total. I'm not surprised by the way you read into this considering your blind hate for Hamilton. I don't think you can deal with anything related to Hamilton civilly and to be quite honest y...

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The luckiest driver in F1?? I suppose he'll claim he's the "unluckiest" next.. :uhoh: Reeks of sour grapes, Vettel's one of the best out there and is proving it time and time again with actual results, not excuses, not whining, but actual quantifiable results and it's starting to look like Lewis can...

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Poor Mark :lol: Always the biggest loser in bitter anti-Vettel rants It's always the same 3-4 members going on and on with the anti-Vettel rants, you would think they would get tired of it already. ;) I think it's hilarious and currently the best part of the forum. Watching zealots get wound up by ...

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He's been the best overtaker this season and the stats don't lie, anyone saying otherwise is ignoring facts or is bitter (Webber fans usually, the ones who give good Webber fans a bad name) :thumbup: Well said, the 2012 champ kicked proverbial donkey, nasal whining from the naysayers is funny thoug...

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The fact they didn't bow down before almighty Lewis is proof enough that they had a choice... they exercised it. Whether what came out of exercising that choice is something they like/ love is entirely different. I seriously think there's no need to read too much into what happened... as Blake said...

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^^ I was about to query why the intake aperture appeared so small.

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F1nsider wrote:Merry Xmas Kimi style - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe73fex_ ... e=youtu.be

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The fact they didn't bow down before almighty Lewis is proof enough that they had a choice... they exercised it. Whether what came out of exercising that choice is something they like/ love is entirely different. I seriously think there's no need to read too much into what happened... as Blake said...

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The fact they didn't bow down before almighty Lewis is proof enough that they had a choice... they exercised it. Whether what came out of exercising that choice is something they like/ love is entirely different. I seriously think there's no need to read too much into what happened... as Blake said...

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Vettel does not seem to have any flaws. He is the best qualifier I have ever seen, you can always count on him to not make any mistakes in qualifying. He excels when he is under pressure (second half of the 2010 and 2012 season being prime examples). He is an amazing wet weather driver. He can take...

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Fat Albert wrote: There’s another really important statistic missing, cost, reputedly, over the three years Button cost McLaren Mercedes $30m while Hamilton cost $70m! So Hamilton cost $40m more and scored 15pts less! Anyone with even the minimum understanding of business can understand that the nu...

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Moore wrote: Just ignore him he clearly has a deluded agenda when it comes to anything Lewis Hamilton... He's bitter and more than likely jealous because Lewis Hamilton is a somebody and he is a nobody with a hate filled opinion.

Bitter and jealous card, ouch

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Fat Albert wrote: There’s another really important statistic missing, cost, reputedly, over the three years Button cost McLaren Mercedes $30m while Hamilton cost $70m! So Hamilton cost $40m more and scored 15pts less! Anyone with even the minimum understanding of business can understand that the nu...

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Fat Albert wrote: There’s another really important statistic missing, cost, reputedly, over the three years Button cost McLaren Mercedes $30m while Hamilton cost $70m! So Hamilton cost $40m more and scored 15pts less! Anyone with even the minimum understanding of business can understand that the nu...

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2011 Button beat Hamilton fairly, as Hamilton made a number of silly mistakes and Button was flawless. 2012 Hamilton has completely thrashed Button and if it wasn't for all the mech problems, and other problems he's had with incidents (Far more than Button) He would be miles ahead of Button and pot...

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There’s another really important statistic missing, cost, reputedly, over the three years Button cost McLaren Mercedes $30m while Hamilton cost $70m! So Hamilton cost $40m more and scored 15pts less! Anyone with even the minimum understanding of business can understand that the numbers don’t add up...

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LOOOL at all the button fans clinging to the points over 3 seasons. Unless you win the championship, points mean nothing. At the end of the day Lewis beat Jenson in 2 out of 3 seasons, won more races(which according to Ron is more important than finishing 2nd in the contructors) Lewis knows, Jenson...

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Hamilton 2 / Button 1 Hamilton Wins. Championship : Overall points: Senna2 657 / No-Grip 672.. :lol: :lol: Ad those 3 dnf where lewis was P1 and leading the race together with Catalunya being disq from Pole position and even then ending up ahead of No grip. Thats about 95 undebateble points this ye...

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<snip> I started to type something like "sorry if I offended you somehow" but I stopped for the simple reason that it would be total bullshit. I'm not sorry, I don't really know your problem is with this thread, and frankly I don't give a crap. So you know what? Over to you. Do it in a "useful" way...

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Jomox wrote:Hamilton 2 / Button 1

Hamilton Wins.

Championship :
Overall points: Senna2 657 / No-Grip 672..

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This thread could go on for a while. At the end of the day, they're both evenly matched. You could say Hamilton should be 50-75 points higher, with much better stats if his McLaren hadn't given up, been underfuelled etc. But Button had problems too and would've had a podium at Monza, and some other...

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Mod should change this topic's headline, to somehow indicate, that this was a false accusation.. Otherwise people will only read the OP, and just right into the last page and be missinformed. ^^THIS... please? Agreed, suggest, "Seems like Vettel didn't pass someone under flashing yellows.." (.. and...

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