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by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:55 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

On the other hand, the more fanatical you are, the better it feels when your driver wins. To get that, you need to endure the bad times as well. Because when it's bad, it's really bad. :) Fair enough, I couldn't handle that though. Luckily I doubt Kimi is going to be in with a real shot of winning ...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Yeah they've both done it plenty of times I know, I'm just the most annoyed I've ever been watching an F1 race. I'd have not begrudged Kimi the win today but you have to admire Bottas for that teamwork. Keeps the championship interesting for a while It's a no brainer for Mercedes but right now I'd ...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Another race Vettel should have won, and he blew it.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Fiki wrote:
Ocon wrote:
bourbon19 wrote:Pity Raikkonen could not hold on.
I'm happy Hamilton passed but I wouldn't mind if Kimi won either. Have massive respect for him.
So do I, but that's what happens when you drive for team Schumacher, euh.. I mean Vettel. :D It has been a one-car team since 2010.
Yeah, I agree.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Ocon wrote:Vettel should watch and learn there, how to race.
Step 1. Have your teammate wipe out your opponents gap by holding him up ;)
That's a different matter. I was talking about how Kimi and Lewis raced wheel to wheel without touching.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

:lol: Verstappen: They're killing racing.

He's killing racing.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:21 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

bourbon19 wrote:Pity Raikkonen could not hold on.
I'm happy Hamilton passed but I wouldn't mind if Kimi won either. Have massive respect for him.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

:lol: Who said Vettel could win this?
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Vettel should watch and learn there, how to race.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Masterful racecraft from both there.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

This could be a masterstroke from Mercedes.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

This is Hamilton we're talking about here, not Vettel. He had problems handling Rosberg... Ricciardo is a level higher. My point stands.[/quote] If Ric is a level higher than Rosberg, that would mean he easily beats Lewis, which isn't logical.[/quote] Rosberg did (while even giving up track positio...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Black_Flag_11 wrote:Could Mercedes use Bottas to disrupt Kimi?
That has to be the plan.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Do your job now Bottas!
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Geez Bottas has been underwhelming this weekend All the wingman talk has got him down in the dumps. Not sure why Mercedes renewed when Ricciardo was on the market. Because they don't want anyone challenging Hamilton This is Hamilton we're talking about here, not Vettel. He had problems handling Ros...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Geez Bottas has been underwhelming this weekend All the wingman talk has got him down in the dumps. Not sure why Mercedes renewed when Ricciardo was on the market. Because they don't want anyone challenging Hamilton This is Hamilton we're talking about here, not Vettel. He had problems handling Ros...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Gumption wrote:
F1Tyrant wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:Geez Bottas has been underwhelming this weekend
All the wingman talk has got him down in the dumps. Not sure why Mercedes renewed when Ricciardo was on the market.
Because they don't want anyone challenging Hamilton
This is Hamilton we're talking about here, not Vettel.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:43 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

How is Max allowed to cut the corner there?
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Vettel is a faster driver than Kimi but Kimi has twice the racecraft.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Zoue wrote:
JN23 wrote:No further action from the stewards, correct decision.

What a chance for Kimi.
He has to win it now. If he doesn't Ferrari most definitely won't extend him!
That's hardly a reason to consider in that matter. Hamilton is right behind and he's not that easy to beat.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Mort Canard wrote:
Ocon wrote:
Zoue wrote:Not much in it as far as race pace goes between the two up front so far
I think Kimi is a bit faster.
Lewis just posted a faster lap.
Yeah he got closer on that lap.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Vettel just held his line, like Hamilton wasn't even there.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

I kind of feel sorry for the Vettel fans. He is one of the fastest drivers ever but the guy has zero racecraft.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Zoue wrote:Not much in it as far as race pace goes between the two up front so far
I think Kimi is a bit faster.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:24 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

frankwer wrote:Vettel is incompetent as a racing driver, he just can race from the lead.
He has no spatial awareness. He's never gonna win a WDC if he has to actually race someone wheel to wheel.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

mikeyg123 wrote:Racing incident.

Kimi's start tells me he's leaving.

Vettel could still win it from here.
No he can't really. 2nd could be possible.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:21 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Kimi and Lewis showing Vettel how you race.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Gumption wrote:If you can't beat him, wreck him
That's Vettel's only option to win against Lewis.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:18 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Vettel is his own worst enemy. He has no race craft whatsoever. Not fit to be a WDC.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:16 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Vettel didn't leave any space there. Suit yourself.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 574
Views: 105990

Re: 2018 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

:) See ya Vettel.
by Ocon
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 337
Views: 77089

Re: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread

Alonso beat Hamilton numerous seasons while having the 3rd best car. We're not going to agree so let's agree to disagree. It's a little sneaky to leave out the fact that in the years 2008-2013, Alonso had absolute supremacy at Renault and Ferrari. Hamilton had to compete against Button (who outscor...
by Ocon
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:50 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 337
Views: 77089

Re: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread

And you think an arguably over the hill Alonso would do better than an experienced Hamilton? Yeah, that sounds plausible. To be fair, Alonso has been the best driver in F1 since 2008. He's won in some absolute donkeys (Renault R28 in Japan) and challenged for the title in arguably the 4th worst car...
by Ocon
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:45 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 337
Views: 77089

Re: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread

Vettel's Italian was extra cringy today.
by Ocon
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 337
Views: 77089

Re: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread

Lewis just hinted at the obvious. Vettel had a clear advantage on the straight.
by Ocon
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:39 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 337
Views: 77089

Re: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread

The same rookie who only tied Alonso due to having full team support and also had his daddy go to the stewards and get Alonso penalized for retaliating in Hungary. You know, when Hamilton violated team orders. No need to go into details, it's irrelevant anyway and it's been discussed to death. He w...
by Ocon
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 337
Views: 77089

Re: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread

Merc are extending their lead and Lewis is still comfortably ahead, not worried. Vettel is going to self destruct even if it turns out that he has the better car for the rest of the season.
by Ocon
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 337
Views: 77089

Re: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread

Who's complaining? What excuse did I make? Answer this question; is the Ferrari the faster car here? Gumption is stirring the pot because the race is so boring. He expects Hamilton to have wrapped up the title already if he's so good. I think Alonso would have got a lot more out of this Ferrari tha...
by Ocon
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:22 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 337
Views: 77089

Re: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread

It was unfortunate for Lewis that it was not unfortunate for Vettel to be deprived from the opportunity to race Lewis for p1, and for F1 fans to watch it? I'm also an F1 fan and I would have rather not watched Lewis being overtaken. :-P But first and foremost Lewis fan? :-P You could probably say t...
by Ocon
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:21 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 337
Views: 77089

Re: 2018 Belgian Grand Prix Race Thread

Done and dusted. After lap 1 it always was going to be tbh, no matter who was ahead , if anything I'm surprised the undercut was so strong, without Verstappen in the way that could have been close. Another safety car is the only way we maybe see a lead change now. Nope. The Ferrari is substantially...