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Ocon

bourbon19 wrote:Well Bottas wasn't thrilled with today's work and let it be known on Twitter. (Click on Picture- he got Putin in the shot too - also frowning)

https://twitter.com/ValtteriBottas/stat ... 1495922688

Why, what did he say? I don't see any quotes there.

Ocon

I wonder if people are really concerned about Bottas feelings here, or if it is out of frustration because Hamilton is running away with the championship. Hamilton has something to lose by not getting these points, while it won't matter for Bottas if he gets a few points less. I would understand the...

Ocon

ynot22 wrote:Bye guys. I’m done with F1. You are a great community and ive enjoyed the forum since the early 2000s but I’m done with F1. Onto Indy and WDC. Maybe I’ll see you all in 2021.
Cheers.

Bye. But what is the reason?

Ocon

Missed the start of the race, and just seen the Vettel-Hamilton incident. That was stupidity on a level that only Verstappen can match, how Vettel was defending. Really dangerous driving, this guy is truly desperate.

And then people say Lewis is scared of racing him. Who wouldn't be scared?

Ocon

I don't see how that would benefit the team. Would be better and logical to secure the best possible finish to the other car as well. Well yeah, but you have to look at the bigger picture here. We have a possible goat driver in the making here. Schumacher had help to achieve his records and I think...

Ocon

Of course there is. Planning for the future and keeping hold of a great young talent. Well yeah, in the future of course. But I was talking more about next season. I never mentioned next season and in fact Wolff has said he's comfortable with Ocon sitting out next season. Ok, so I misunderstood the...

Ocon

Mort Canard wrote:
Weren't you watching the post race interviews? Neither Lewis or Valtteri were celebrating the results. Lewis pretty much apologized to Valtteri on camera.

No I didn't see that. That's a bit unnecessary imo, it's for a greater cause.

Ocon

BlackMan wrote:
Lewis also asked Valtteri to stay alongside him on the top step of the podium after the trophy for 2nd place was handed.

What a guy!

Ocon

Jezza13 wrote:
Ocon wrote: Of course there is.

Planning for the future and keeping hold of a great young talent.

Well yeah, in the future of course. But I was talking more about next season.

Ocon

I don't see how that would benefit the team. Would be better and logical to secure the best possible finish to the other car as well. Well yeah, but you have to look at the bigger picture here. We have a possible goat driver in the making here. Schumacher had help to achieve his records and I think...

Ocon

And your username is? Have I missed something? Is Ocon going to Merc? By the way, I am a fan of Bottas as well. If he was in another team I would be rooting for him. If Ocon is going to Mercedes, that's exellent news. Imagine it is likely ocon to will drive for Merc in 2020, unless bottas can impro...

Ocon

And your username is? Have I missed something? Is Ocon going to Merc? By the way, I am a fan of Bottas as well. If he was in another team I would be rooting for him. If Ocon is going to Mercedes, that's exellent news. Is Ocon going to Merc? I kinda think thats the plan judging from whats been said....

Ocon

The way Valtteri needs to look at this is, the sooner Lewis will be able to wrap up the title the better it is for both of them, because it means that Valtteri will then have the chance to score at least a couple of wins. At this rate, we're looking at USA or Mexico at the latest. After that, I'm p...

Ocon

Hamilton isn't going to drive for them forever and they have 2 very good young drivers in their young driver programme who would benefit from some time alongside one of the best in the business in order to get ready to lead the team. Well yeah but Bottas is an established and very good driver. I do...

Ocon

Jezza13 wrote:
And your username is?

Have I missed something? Is Ocon going to Merc? By the way, I am a fan of Bottas as well. If he was in another team I would be rooting for him. If Ocon is going to Mercedes, that's exellent news.

Ocon

Bottas told to "hold position". Radio msg; "We'll talk about it after the race." "Oh and by the way. You're probably out of a drive at the end of next season"' Why? He's a great teammate to Lewis. You of all people shouldn't need to ask that! I don't follow. He said Merc would get rid of Bottas. Wh...

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Llotyhy wrote:Oh so that's the narative now? We're watching a sports event here. The best man should win. Bottas deserved the win. Lewis didn't. All this whataboutism is just noise.

Lewis is the chosen one, not Bottas.

Ocon

Jezza13 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:Bottas told to "hold position". Radio msg; "We'll talk about it after the race."
"Oh and by the way. You're probably out of a drive at the end of next season"'

Why? He's a great teammate to Lewis.

Ocon

Black_Flag_11 wrote:Might be in Vettel s interest to drop back here, more chance of Mercedes switching the cars back if there's no threat from Vettel.

Don't think they'll switch anyway.

Ocon

Hamilton 5 time WDC! Should be 6.

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lucifers wrote:
chetan_rao wrote:What's the need to do that? Get let past Bottas playing the long game, then try to pass Max of all people when he'll be out of the way anyway.
maybe he was bored and needed an adrenalin rush

I hope he's smarter than that.

Ocon

kleefton wrote:Be careful with Max, Lewis...

Yeah, he should just leave that alone. Lewis main priority should be finishing these last races.

Ocon

Despite having the fastest car and a 40 point lead, Hamilton is so scared of racing Vettel that they need to resort to these team orders. Hamilton scared of racing Vettel. :lol: He started moaning as soon as Vettel emerged in front of him and then had the team gift him the lead and place a roadbloc...

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F1Tyrant wrote:
Ocon wrote:Hamilton scared of racing Vettel.
Given Vettel's clumsy racecraft, unless Hamilton is entirely in control it's quite risky to have Vettel behind looking to overtake.

That's true. I'd be just looking to distance myself from Vettel as much as possible if I was him.

Ocon

Quark wrote:Despite having the fastest car and a 40 point lead, Hamilton is so scared of racing Vettel that they need to resort to these team orders.

Hamilton scared of racing Vettel.

Haven't heard that theory before.

Ocon

Kimi is so fast.

Ocon

Hamilton world champion, safe to say.

Ocon

What I find interesting is that out of 41 responders the number of forum contributors that think Vettel is better is zero. So are the fervently passionate Ferrari/Vettel fans simply not participating or do they agree that Hamilton is the better driver? If the latter then this has to be an incredibl...

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Toby. wrote:Vettel is better than Raikkonen.

That's all we can say with confidence at this point.

Better than a past it Raikkonen.

Ocon

As I said in another thread, I’d have pitted and retired him when he said he knew his stupidity was costing him time to Vettel but he didn’t care. The gonads on this kid are a bit too big for his underoos. Max is running that team now. They weren't willing to call him out on DNFing both cars in Bak...

Ocon

Hamilton was favorite at the start of 2018 and still is , with a clear #2 and the fastest or nearly fastest and 4 years of winning all titles it's not that easy to dethrone Mercedes. Takes an effort worthy of Alonso ending Ferrari winning in 2005. IMO Merc is favorite all the way until the reg chan...

Ocon

AnRs wrote:
Can you prove the part in bold? Otherwise you are a victim of your own words...

The burden is on you to prove it, since you're the one claiming Alonso was disadvantaged.

Ocon

I would imagine Vettel would have been quicker than Kimi, yes. But Hamilton was also quicker than Kimi. So what evidence is there that the Ferrari was the quicker car? Kimi went toe to toe because he was in front and overtaking is always much harder than defending. Do you think if the roles had bee...

Ocon

Then you accept the flimsiest evidence to form conclusions from. Kimi getting pole is only evidence of him performing well on Saturday. It has no bearing on how the cars compare on Sunday. FWIW I think the Ferrari was the quicker car on Saturday. But there is zero evidence to suggest that was the c...

Ocon

All things aside, this guy is a legend.

Ocon

Another race Vettel should have won, and he blew it. Why should Vettel have won? Because Ferrari was the faster car. evidence? Kimi getting pole is more evidence than I need. The Ferrari was quicker through the weekend and locked out the front grid. Does anyone really believe Vettel would have lost...

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KingVoid wrote:
Mercedes-Benz wrote:It is impossible to defend when the tyres are gone.
If Verstappen was in that Ferrari instead of Raikkonen, do you think that Hamilton would have taken the lead so easily?

No because Verstappen or Vettel would have taken Hamilton out.

Ocon

Vettel got a free pitstop and SS tyres where as Kimi had vibration and may be lucky that Max was blocking Bottas all race. Vettel he himself admitted he was lucky to be P2 in qualifying and today he made a mistake as well in the second chicane. As far as I can tell Vettel has let Ferrari down today...

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Clarky wrote:
Ocon wrote:Another race Vettel should have won, and he blew it.
Why should Vettel have won?

Because Ferrari was the faster car.

Ocon

Lt. Drebin wrote:
Ocon wrote:Kimi and Lewis showing Vettel how you race.
They were schooled by him last week in Belgium.

I meant the wheel to wheel racing without touching, that Vettel is not capable of doing it seems.

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