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Ocon

Hamilton is a far far superior driver then Vettel. Ferrari need to get a better driver. That would be true if the weather was like this every race ;-) Maybe Vettel could win the championship if Lewis had to start from the back every time. I think that's why he was so angry, he knows this was his ch...

Ocon

Merc are stupid if they let Bottas get by. Don't make the same mistake that Ferrari did last time.

Ocon

chetan_rao wrote:Sky commentary just about avoiding having a collective heart attack out of sheer joy.

I can definitely relate.

Ocon

I have to say it's slightly satisfying to see Vettel lose points on his own mistake compared to Hamilton who did so with no fault of his own in the last couple of times.

Ocon

Why should we protect any runners more than others? As I've said before I think they should be treated the same from the first to the last race and wherever they are in the championship. If Hamilton or Vettel cause an accident meaning another team loses a place in the WCC it could cause a massive f...

Ocon

@Zoue Also, as I mentioned before, there would have to be tweaks and compromises to make it applicable. You don't necessarily have to award the points equivalent of the starting position. It can be a position or two lower, depending of the severity of the incident and how much it hampered the victi...

Ocon

Yeah I know they don't want to ruin their own races. But given how Kimi has been treated, I doubt Ferrari care as much about ruining his race compared to Vettels. You really do believe, Kimi would take out Lewis because / although Ferrari don't care about ruining his race? He is a wealthy man doing...

Ocon

Fair enough. We can still have a nice conversation! Personally I agree that harsher penalties may indeed deter the drivers and make them more cautious, but it is the wrong way of doing things, it sends the wrong message. Racing that you can't really race the other car, just being careful. It just s...

Ocon

@Zoue I'm not 100% sure if it was for points, but it was last season in Abu Dhabi I think. It was after that race that you and me actually had a disscusion about it. Does it even matter though if it's for points? er, you brought the points up. I agree it shouldn't make a difference Since you agree,...

Ocon

I said that they should try not to take anyone out, not just Mercedes. It just so happened that it was Merc they hit so they are vocal about it. It's not that there should be new rules just because of what happened. All I'm saying is that I hope they are more careful to not take a merc out again. T...

Ocon

Yeah, I see how you could read it, apologies if my post wasn't clear. The first few corners are the most difficult, this is clear enough. You are forgetting though that they are so many races that the drivers have gotten away without incidents. I'd bet that they are far more times (talking about th...

Ocon

@Zoue
I'm not 100% sure if it was for points, but it was last season in Abu Dhabi I think. It was after that race that you and me actually had a disscusion about it. Does it even matter though if it's for points?

Ocon

I think they will take care because they won't want to ruin their own races. Vettel is fighting for the title: do you seriously think he's happy to be playing dodgems and potentially throwing away points? And do you then think that his motivator in not doing so would be not to upset Mercedes, rathe...

Ocon

This is odd, I did not address you as talking about strategy. It was Mercedes themselves that mentioned the Ferrari is using this as a strategy, the very quote that started the whole conversation. Otherwise it would be just another race incident, just as it should be. But it's not only Kimi, is it?...

Ocon

We're going on a circle again. No driver risks taking their opponents out as a solid strategy. It has happened in the past in red mist in the final race or so, yes. But a strategy? Not in a million years a driver will risk damage to his car and a penalty (let alone amassing driver license points) t...

Ocon

I think they will take care because they won't want to ruin their own races. Vettel is fighting for the title: do you seriously think he's happy to be playing dodgems and potentially throwing away points? And do you then think that his motivator in not doing so would be not to upset Mercedes, rathe...

Ocon

Yeah I know they don't want to ruin their own races. But given how Kimi has been treated, I doubt Ferrari care as much about ruining his race compared to Vettels.

Ocon

I'm hoping Mercs actions will help tame the Ferraris next race. Otherwise, if it happens again, there will be even more of an outrage and rightly so. Mercs "actions" will do nothing in preventing this to happen again. I don't know what's hard here to understand but once again, the risk-reward for t...

Ocon

yeah I think you're reaching there. He even admitted he said some dumb sh*t after Kimi apologized, so I think it's pretty clear what he meant Maybe you're right, but he would have had to apologise either way. I don't think he's sorry in the slightest though to be honest, I know I wouldn't be. I bet...

Ocon

I'm hoping Mercs actions will help tame the Ferraris next race. Otherwise, if it happens again, there will be even more of an outrage and rightly so. Mercs "actions" will do nothing in preventing this to happen again. I don't know what's hard here to understand but once again, the risk-reward for t...

Ocon

You are the one who brought Lewis into the discussion, not me. My point is valid though... you are less likely to be involved in first lap incidents when you start at the front of the field... so your example of Lewis needs to be taken with a grain of salt so-to-speak. I think you are reading WAY t...

Ocon

yeah I think you're reaching there. He even admitted he said some dumb sh*t after Kimi apologized, so I think it's pretty clear what he meant Maybe you're right, but he would have had to apologise either way. I don't think he's sorry in the slightest though to be honest, I know I wouldn't be. I bet...

Ocon

I don't think anyone in their right mind actually believes it was deliberate. Merc are intentionally exaggerating to make people take notice, realise it's a big deal and influence the people in power. Hopefully the Ferrari drivers realise that the race isn't won in the first corner. Like Ferrari dr...

Ocon

Hopefully the Ferrari drivers realise that the race isn't won in the first corner. Combine what you see race after race with Hamilton's post-Silverstone comments, and you will find that the race practically is won in the first corner. Being able to run in undisturbed air is a huge advantage in toda...

Ocon

I don't think anyone in their right mind actually believes it was deliberate. Merc are intentionally exaggerating to make people take notice, realise it's a big deal and influence the people in power. Hopefully the Ferrari drivers realise that the race isn't won in the first corner. Like Ferrari dr...

Ocon

I don't think anyone in their right mind actually believes it was deliberate. Merc are intentionally exaggerating to make people take notice, realise it's a big deal and influence the people in power.

Hopefully the Ferrari drivers realise that the race isn't won in the first corner.

Ocon

Paolo_Lasardi wrote:Well, in Silverstone Hamilton actually was the victim - no matter how the Vettel-Räikkönen brigade tries to spin it.

Same story with midseason tyre changes: when they suit Vettel, they are fine (2013), when they do not suit him, they are unfair.

Exactly.

Ocon

Wow, just wow. If we're going to take luck completely out of the championship then why not just have qualifying in Australia and award the title and points accordingly. Honestly, this may be the single stupidest idea I've ever read on this forum and that's saying something! You are going to extreme...

Ocon

Imagine if you're a driver and you lose the championship in the last race of the season because you got punted of the track by your main contender. I bet you would be singing a different tune then. It has happened. Speaking of "singing a different tune", wiki you be as vociferous on this subject wh...

Ocon

For the bold part, ok I got you. I do understand what you are on about, I just can't see how this would be implemented. The last idea, the 2-3 points awarded in case of a DNF because of someone else is not a bad idea in itself. The problem I can see with that is the unpredictability of the race. A ...

Ocon

@Zoue Also, as I mentioned before, there would have to be tweaks and compromises to make it applicable. You don't necessarily have to award the points equivalent of the starting position. It can be a position or two lower, depending of the severity of the incident and how much it hampered the victi...

Ocon

Where were all these people when ham was running Nico off the road? Bangin with Massa? Let them have at it - or go to Ilse of Mann style and race the clock. I still existed even then, it's just that I wasn't active on this forum. Although I was still a Kimi fan back then, and I still am but I decid...

Ocon

I was never a fan of this strategy, the victim can't get anything back. That moment is gone forever, you can't quantify what would the victim deserve in any shape or form. From lap one to lap 52 (here) there are many many things that can happen. Only last weekend both Mercedes were out by mechanica...

Ocon

@Zoue Also, as I mentioned before, there would have to be tweaks and compromises to make it applicable. You don't necessarily have to award the points equivalent of the starting position. It can be a position or two lower, depending of the severity of the incident and how much it hampered the victi...

Ocon

@Zoue Also, as I mentioned before, there would have to be tweaks and compromises to make it applicable. You don't necessarily have to award the points equivalent of the starting position. It can be a position or two lower, depending of the severity of the incident and how much it hampered the victi...

Ocon

@Zoue Also, as I mentioned before, there would have to be tweaks and compromises to make it applicable. You don't necessarily have to award the points equivalent of the starting position. It can be a position or two lower, depending of the severity of the incident and how much it hampered the victi...

Ocon

Wow, just wow. If we're going to take luck completely out of the championship then why not just have qualifying in Australia and award the title and points accordingly. Honestly, this may be the single stupidest idea I've ever read on this forum and that's saying something! You are going to extreme...

Ocon

@Zoue Also, as I mentioned before, there would have to be tweaks and compromises to make it applicable. You don't necessarily have to award the points equivalent of the starting position. It can be a position or two lower, depending of the severity of the incident and how much it hampered the victi...

Ocon

@Zoue

I will answer your posts later, have to go now.

Ocon

Edit: dp.

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