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by WHoff78
Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
Replies: 699
Views: 57956

Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?

Indeed, it is article 15.3 which gives the Race Director overriding authority on the use of the Safety Car. Fiki, just because 15.3 doesn't explicitly state the limits of his authority doesn't mean his authority is unlimited. It's generally assumed the authority of sporting officials is bound by sp...
by WHoff78
Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
Replies: 699
Views: 57956

Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?

Indeed, it is article 15.3 which gives the Race Director overriding authority on the use of the Safety Car. Fiki, just because 15.3 doesn't explicitly state the limits of his authority doesn't mean his authority is unlimited. It's generally assumed the authority of sporting officials is bound by sp...
by WHoff78
Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
Replies: 699
Views: 57956

Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?

Drivers could slow down specifically at turn 14 while going normal speed for the rest of the lap. Also, the circuit was basically clean by midway lap 56 anyway. According to Jolyon Palmer analysis on F1TV it was possible to get all the cars to unlap themselves and still have a final lap shootout. I...
by WHoff78
Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:08 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
Replies: 699
Views: 57956

Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?

Hamilton did a 1:56 under VSC and was doing 2:25 lap times under SC, so no, the cars are traveling significantly faster under the VSC than the SC. Likewise, any crash which involves a wreckage on the racing line and requires a crane to remove will always result in a safety car. And cars unlapping t...
by WHoff78
Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:24 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
Replies: 699
Views: 57956

Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?

FormulaFun wrote:
Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:11 pm
Interesting that a major french racing magazine has run with the front page that Lewis Hamilton is the 2021 WDC... Thought it was just the British that were crazy fanboy/Verstappen haters
This is such a telling statement coming from a French publication. Speaks volumes.
by WHoff78
Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
Replies: 699
Views: 57956

Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?

In letting them unlap but leaving them directly ahead of the leaders, assuming there are multiple laps to go, that would be directly penalizing the cars that have already lapped cars, as they would lose time passing them again, over cars that have not lapped cars. Something that has been overlooked ...
by WHoff78
Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:16 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
Replies: 699
Views: 57956

Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?

The difference is was there any indication Masi wanted to bring out the SC and Toto changed his mind, the VSC was what Masi felt was efficient. At the end of the race Masi decided no lapped cars to overtake then we hear JW giving Masi a set of instructions to follow which he did exactly and themn f...
by WHoff78
Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
Replies: 699
Views: 57956

Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?

I'm kind of over it now, but have to say , seeing the conversation with JW doesn't reflect well on Masi does it. I still, maybe naively, believe Masi thought he was doing the right thing, but he pretty much implemented an instruction given to him by one of the two teams in the title fight that woul...
by WHoff78
Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: FIA release new statement on Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
Replies: 245
Views: 19073

Re: FIA release new statement on Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

well it would help if we were consistent with our terminology - it's Regulations that are under scrutiny, not Rules and that alone signifies a subtle but key difference. For those disinclined to do their own research --------------------------- 48.12 If the clerk of the course considers it safe to ...
by WHoff78
Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:23 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: FIA release new statement on Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
Replies: 245
Views: 19073

Re: FIA release new statement on Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

well it would help if we were consistent with our terminology - it's Regulations that are under scrutiny, not Rules and that alone signifies a subtle but key difference. For those disinclined to do their own research --------------------------- 48.12 If the clerk of the course considers it safe to ...
by WHoff78
Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: FIA release new statement on Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
Replies: 245
Views: 19073

Re: FIA release new statement on Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Seriously. Why are you all trying to find a solution to a problem that only exists because the race director went rogue and did not follow the rules that he is supposed to implement. There is no need to change the rules. Because I guarantee you. The only scenario they don't think of will be the sce...
by WHoff78
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:54 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank The Drivers 2021 Performance in the First 20 Races
Replies: 394
Views: 24356

Re: Rank The Drivers 2021 Performance in the First 20 Races

Well, that was a mildly entertaining read anyway. Not voted. Glad to see others agree how ridiculous polling based on certain races to manufacture a certain result is. Almost as comical as deciding certain cars should be able to unlap but not others. Largely irrelevant, as the drivers efforts were f...
by WHoff78
Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Will Hamilton compete in 2022?
Replies: 215
Views: 21260

Re: Will Hamilton compete in 2022?

For my part the original SC was just fine without unlapping the cars. This actually distorts the race more so I'm surprised to here you say it. This is true, but in AD the alternative given the timing was for the race to finish under safety car conditions if they had allowed everyone to unlap and f...
by WHoff78
Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: FIA release new statement on Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
Replies: 245
Views: 19073

Re: FIA release new statement on Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

I guess things tend to slow down on the off-season.....but much of the hype around 2021 has stopped. it's been fairly quiet...and I've only really seen the odd article relating to the enquiry. I'm sure that's not exactly what Liberty want discussed but I'm sure they are hoping that will ease off. Th...
by WHoff78
Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: FIA release new statement on Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
Replies: 245
Views: 19073

Re: FIA release new statement on Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

. Amazing how all this mess is somehow Hamilton's fault, when it was Masi who caused the whole fiasco. Why do SOME people want to blame the innocent party ? F1 ( and the FIA ) has made itself the joke (and a joke), they should try to take an honest look at what happened (I'm NOT holding my breath. ...
by WHoff78
Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2022 development restrictions
Replies: 9
Views: 1492

Re: 2022 development restrictions

Is that comfort for Red Bull going into 2022 though? Would appear that the cut-off for allocating the limits, was 30th June, at which point Red Bull were 1st. So they will go into 2022 with less testing than Merc, unless I missed something. Also looks like the FIA may permit over or under use of res...
by WHoff78
Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Your choice of formula 1 race director for formula 1s 2022 season.
Replies: 239
Views: 17289

Re: Your choice of formula 1 race director for formula 1s 2022 season.

15.3 The clerk of the course shall work in permanent consultation with the Race Director. The Race Director shall have overriding authority in the following matters and the clerk of the course may give orders in respect of them only with his express agreement: a) The control of practice, sprint qua...
by WHoff78
Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 398
Views: 37377

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Whereas Hamilton, showed pure class in that final lap of AD despite having the rug completely pulled from under his feet. On a tangent here, but I've read this a lot, that Lewis has shown class in the last lap, and for the life of me I don't understand it. As in, what else could Lewis do in the las...
by WHoff78
Tue Dec 21, 2021 5:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 398
Views: 37377

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Whereas Hamilton, showed pure class in that final lap of AD despite having the rug completely pulled from under his feet. On a tangent here, but I've read this a lot, that Lewis has shown class in the last lap, and for the life of me I don't understand it. As in, what else could Lewis do in the las...
by WHoff78
Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:24 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should merc take the case to court
Replies: 122
Views: 10362

Re: Should merc take the case to court

You take it on the chin and get them back next season. Take it on the chin argument works when you lose by getting outplayed/ out raced by your competitor within the rules, in a fair way. But when you put all the hard work, toil your body and mind, do enough to win, but it gets taken away due to ma...
by WHoff78
Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should merc take the case to court
Replies: 122
Views: 10362

Re: Should merc take the case to court

I voted no. Officiating errors happen in sport everywhere. Look at the hand of God, or the 2019 NRL Grand Final. I think this whole court ordeal is a sign of poor sportsmanship. I’m sure you could drill down any number of races, and seen if it went a different way, Hamilton would have won the title...
by WHoff78
Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 398
Views: 37377

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Regarding Max not doing anything dirty like Schumacher, Prost and Senna. Are we just now ignoring the blatant break testing that was proven with the telemetry? 1) Nobody is saying Max has never done anything dirty. The difference is all three of those drivers won a championship by taking out their ...
by WHoff78
Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:17 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mohammed ben Sulayem
Replies: 27
Views: 3210

Re: Mohammed ben Sulayem

Did I read somewhere that he was the fia’s vice-president? If so wouldn’t that make him part of the problem. From his remarks I think so. Believe that was the other candidate, Graham Stoker, but don't know much about either tbh. Apparently Sulayem was the bolder choice for change from the previous ...
by WHoff78
Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should merc take the case to court
Replies: 122
Views: 10362

Re: Should merc take the case to court

Would Red Bull be able to take any previous decisions to court in response? e.g. try get Hamilton's ineffectual penalty at Silverstone increased to cost him a place or two. Re-litigating just one decision of many feels incomplete. No. They missed timelines. Furthermore, it would be a complete waste...
by WHoff78
Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:58 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton replacement
Replies: 56
Views: 7839

Re: Hamilton replacement

Maldonado might offer some good cover for Russell.
by WHoff78
Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mohammed ben Sulayem
Replies: 27
Views: 3210

Re: Mohammed ben Sulayem

He has also said that he will not jump to conclusions and he will await the findings of the review of events in Abu Dhabi. He should be afforded that time.

Have to trust that he will apply those same principles that 'rules are rules' consistently.
by WHoff78
Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes Withdraw Abu Dhabi Appeal
Replies: 50
Views: 5301

Re: Mercedes Withdraw Abu Dhabi Appeal

Until 2020 when team orders were banned. The head honcho of DTM, former F1 driver Gerhard Berger doesn't seem to agree with you. Honestly, I slept really badly the last few nights,” “I've been a motorsport fan through and through for 40 years and my sportsman's heart can't cope with such artificial...
by WHoff78
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes Withdraw Abu Dhabi Appeal
Replies: 50
Views: 5301

Re: Mercedes Withdraw Abu Dhabi Appeal

DOLOMITE wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:07 pm
I thought the top 3 had to attend the Gala? So will Merc/Lewis get a fine for not attending? Will that mean a space next to Max at his table?..
Guess it would defend whether the rules say all of the top 3 or any of the top 3.
by WHoff78
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes Withdraw Abu Dhabi Appeal
Replies: 50
Views: 5301

Re: Mercedes Withdraw Abu Dhabi Appeal

Echo what the large majority have already said above. You would hope that they will indeed hold those to account and do the right thing, but will not be holding my breath. When the new President of the FIA is elected tomorrow, you can be sure that their actions / statements will be watched closely. ...
by WHoff78
Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:16 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes Lodge Multiple Protests Against Result
Replies: 342
Views: 33806

Re: Mercedes Lodge Multiple Protests Against Result

https://medium.com/@gwkj1/analysing-the-fia-rulebook-after-the-abu-dhabi-grand-prix-a-lawyers-perspective-571ca3810060?s=08 Good article which seems to indicate Merc have a pretty rock solid case Seems like a good article, would like to know that guys qualification tho. As other have said lawyers a...
by WHoff78
Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:09 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should merc take the case to court
Replies: 122
Views: 10362

Re: Should merc take the case to court

IDFD wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:55 am
The biggest farce is thinking it's okay for the rules to be ignored.
I completely agree, and hope that this is indeed the prevailing sentiment.
by WHoff78
Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Your hopes for 2022
Replies: 75
Views: 7503

Re: Your hopes for 2022

Another one from me - they sort out the queuing issues we often see in qualifying Easy. Use VSC sector times for the particular track as the maximum permitted times during a quali session. One place grid penalty for every five seconds over. (OK, not easy because I've just realized it doesn't work i...
by WHoff78
Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
Replies: 699
Views: 57956

Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?

Those that are saying Masi was doing what he thought was good for the show and viewership. Yesterday a full 48 hours after the race had finished. #F1isfixed and #MasiOut were both trending on twitter. So whilst he may have thought it was a good idea he hilariously midjudged it. How often 48 hours a...
by WHoff78
Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: FIA Statement regarding Abu Dhabi
Replies: 33
Views: 4335

Re: FIA Statement regarding Abu Dhabi

FIA clearly in damage limitation mode....if this were to go to court, I am actually very interested to see how they defend themselves without doing more harm. This is every bit as fascinating as the F1 season we've all just witnessed. Completely new territory.
by WHoff78
Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should merc take the case to court
Replies: 122
Views: 10362

Re: Should merc take the case to court

One thing that many are fully aware of and in general agreement with on this forum is that a safety car has the ability to influence the outcome of a race to favor one competitor over another. It is for that very reason the rules around it should be written as a clear procedure so that it can be app...
by WHoff78
Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should merc take the case to court
Replies: 122
Views: 10362

Re: Should merc take the case to court

What messages did the teams / drivers get? on the broadcast feed, the graphic came up that stated specific cars to pass. Did all the competitors get the message Lapped Cars May Pass or was did only those affected get the message Cars a, b, c, d, e May Pass? Fair question, but again this would have ...
by WHoff78
Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
Replies: 699
Views: 57956

Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?

Oh come on. Even Albon wins the title at that point there was absolutely nothing special from Max in that last lap. That is your opinion, my point was he didn't do anything underhanded on that last lap, he did what any other driver would have done, took advantage of the opportunity, however I have ...
by WHoff78
Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should merc take the case to court
Replies: 122
Views: 10362

Re: Should merc take the case to court

It's actually a very well written clause. Once the message is sent to ALL competitors, which is the first thing that they got wrong, those that have been lapped are required to pass, and those that have not been lapped are not required to pass. There is no other interpretation.
by WHoff78
Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:55 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should merc take the case to court
Replies: 122
Views: 10362

Re: Should merc take the case to court

48.12 If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message "LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE" has been sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system, any cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car. This wil...
by WHoff78
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 398
Views: 37377

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Well, I’m very happy that my pessimism on this thread has turned out to be wrong. I was predicting that Max would have been without a title until 2025. As good of a jinx as F1Tyrant’s “will Lewis even reach 100 wins” thread was after Austria, I honestly think that this thread might have been an eve...