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Of course. So do you still believe that Merc have good grounds for fighting the claims made against them - assuming of course, they are unable to provide evidence that their testing (using current car and drivers) was approved by the FIA? If you want me to answer your questions then please go back ...

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At the end of the day, if Merc do not come up with proof that the testing had been approved by the FIA, do you think its acceptable that they receive no penalty 'cos the Pirelli contract is ambiguous? I'm not talking about Mercedes here, I'm talking about Pirelli. Have you changed your mind about M...

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Then you're missing my point. Read the line after the one you bolded. In that scenario, Pirelli would still be part of the sport regardless of Marussia so if we are to regard them as being bound by the Regulations this time around then they would still be bound in that situation irrespective of Mar...

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Thankyou! No, Pirelli's agreement isn't in the public domain so it can't be checked. The way I see it, though, even IF there is a clause in Pirelli's agreement about adhering to the Regulations that could conflict with other clauses. How can the IT justify adherence to one clause over another or in...

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Another article has appeared on Pitpass concerning the complications of the Pirelli situation. Interesting read again. http://www.pitpass.com/49279-Its-Complicated Once again an excellent article Jo!!! Given this paragraph, Considering the penalties available to the International Tribunal, these wo...

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With all due respect, I do know what I was getting at and if anything I was perhaps a bit more circumspect and should have spelt it out. My phrase "than anything they have access to this year" is precisely meant to mean that they don't have anything relevant at all. My understanding is that we were...

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@gpr and benmc, what we are all looking at reminds me of Frank Williams' quote: "F1 is a business except for 2 hours on a Sunday when we go racing." Vert apt. I agree with benmc that the business model is disastrous. Ecclestone is IMO too old-school in his approach. He has focused on the money from ...

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Excellent Black Flag. Hoping for good racing at Silverstone. For all my years of watching F1, I still have not been able to match car characteristics to track characteristics. Anyone care to list the 2013 tracks by characteristics that have disparate impacts on each car? I'll give it a go, though a...

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Excellent Black Flag. Hoping for good racing at Silverstone. For all my years of watching F1, I still have not been able to match car characteristics to track characteristics. Anyone care to list the 2013 tracks by characteristics that have disparate impacts on each car? I'll give it a go, though a...

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I think this is the biggest mess for the main reason that it involves a lot more money than it ever has in the past. The ramifications of the sport collapsing are enormous. The fighting in court would go on for years. I also think that what makes this a bigger mess than previously is that there is n...

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Another article has appeared on Pitpass concerning the complications of the Pirelli situation. Interesting read again. http://www.pitpass.com/49279-Its-Complicated Once again an excellent article Jo!!! Given this paragraph, Considering the penalties available to the International Tribunal, these wo...

Jo_

Remember 1994? The FIA tried to ban Schumacher for his home race, the Germans went mental and he was allowed to race under appeal. The FIA could have quashed the appeal before the race if they wanted to but didn't want to risk it. Well that's a bit misleading. If a decision is appealed to the ICA t...

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And another dropped into the mix. Conflict of interests as well now - lol http://adamcooperf1.com/2013/06/13/bernie-ecclestone-mercedes-should-have-said-no-to-pirelli-test/ What I think is interesting about Ecclestone's comments is that they put him clearly at odds with Todt. That suggests to me th...

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Remember 1994? The FIA tried to ban Schumacher for his home race, the Germans went mental and he was allowed to race under appeal. The FIA could have quashed the appeal before the race if they wanted to but didn't want to risk it. Well that's a bit misleading. If a decision is appealed to the ICA t...

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And another dropped into the mix. Conflict of interests as well now - lol http://adamcooperf1.com/2013/06/13/bernie-ecclestone-mercedes-should-have-said-no-to-pirelli-test/ What I think is interesting about Ecclestone's comments is that they put him clearly at odds with Todt. That suggests to me th...

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And another dropped into the mix. Conflict of interests as well now - lol http://adamcooperf1.com/2013/06/13/bernie-ecclestone-mercedes-should-have-said-no-to-pirelli-test/ What I think is interesting about Ecclestone's comments is that they put him clearly at odds with Todt. That suggests to me th...

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Irvine: he'd have a lot of interesting information and crucially probably be willing to share it, and he'd also be a lot of fun. I thought about Irvine after all he would have the background stuff on Schumi. I also think he's upfront enough to just say it how it is regardless of how that reflected ...

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Irvine: he'd have a lot of interesting information and crucially probably be willing to share it, and he'd also be a lot of fun.

Jo_

OK, you're right - the oddities in POBR's rating system is entirely due to the ignorance of a few of us posters. As you have researched these oddities and concluded that they are correct, I feel silly for questioning some of them. You didn't question them. You stated as fact that they were wrong. W...

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sorry to brake it to you Vettel is the most hated driver 5 pages and still goin......well done to the canadian fans for booing a fraud :lol: Oh FFS GROW UP. A number of recent joining posters could take heed of this. Consider: 1. The sport did not just start at the point at which you started watchi...

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sorry to brake it to you Vettel is the most hated driver 5 pages and still goin......well done to the canadian fans for booing a fraud :lol: Oh FFS GROW UP. A number of recent joining posters could take heed of this. Consider: 1. The sport did not just start at the point at which you started watchi...

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OK, you're right - the oddities in POBR's rating system is entirely due to the ignorance of a few of us posters. As you have researched these oddities and concluded that they are correct, I feel silly for questioning some of them. You didn't question them. You stated as fact that they were wrong. W...

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Fair enough, but Nico far better than Schumi in 2012?? There is something wrong in your rating system somewhere. Go and read what POBRatings said about his system again: it measures speed . Speed is not the sole determinant of a driver's performance nor of the outcome nor does one driver being fast...

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LKSI: my system measures speeds between combos,drivers and cars. It is based primarily on speed, not results. Which is why in 1984 I scored Prost much faster than Lauda, but Lauda won the WDC; in 1957 I scored Moss faster than Fangio, but Fangio was WDC, his Maserati car was a whole 0.7 faster than...

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sorry to brake it to you Vettel is the most hated driver 5 pages and still goin......well done to the canadian fans for booing a fraud :lol: Oh FFS GROW UP. A number of recent joining posters could take heed of this. Consider: 1. The sport did not just start at the point at which you started watchi...

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LKSI: my system measures speeds between combos,drivers and cars. It is based primarily on speed, not results. Which is why in 1984 I scored Prost much faster than Lauda, but Lauda won the WDC; in 1957 I scored Moss faster than Fangio, but Fangio was WDC, his Maserati car was a whole 0.7 faster than...

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I tell you what it is impressive how quickly a thread is derailed into a "my drivers better than yours debate" :] :thumbup: Ive only read the first and last page so im not quite sure how it got to the subject of the Merc drivers. Never fails to amaze me :lol: I've read the whole thread and I can't ...

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You may be right, but I can't recall a top team giving equal status to both drivers when one was the only chance of winning the WDC? But I didn't make that comment in reference only to a situation where there was only one driver in with a chance of winning a WDC. It is applicable to a situation suc...

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What do you mean 'the era of #1/#2 drivers'? F1 teams have been favouring one driver over another both explicitly and implicitly since the sport started. What do you think it means when one driver actually physically gives up their car for their teammate? The distinction today is simply that the me...

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What do you mean 'the era of #1/#2 drivers'? F1 teams have been favouring one driver over another both explicitly and implicitly since the sport started. What do you think it means when one driver actually physically gives up their car for their teammate? The distinction today is simply that the me...

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raceman wrote:Couldn't find a video for this one but from the Turkish Grand Prix in 2007:

Race Engineer: Uhh, Rubens, Jenson is two seconds quicker or claims to be two seconds quicker
Rubens: Don't make me laugh

Rubens was passed by Jenson shortly after thereafter.

That is funny.

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What do you mean 'the era of #1/#2 drivers'? F1 teams have been favouring one driver over another both explicitly and implicitly since the sport started. What do you think it means when one driver actually physically gives up their car for their teammate? The distinction today is simply that the med...

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Vettel was only 0.1 and 0.4 quicker that Bourdais in Q1 and Q2. Q3 he was a second quicker but Bourdais had a lot more fuel on board (as he stated in the post race interview). Fair to say the TR was not a "dog" that weekend. Hamilton and Kimi started 14th and 15th its not so impressive. The pair we...

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The main function of Toro Rosso is to provide an opportunity for Red Bull's young drivers. IMO that makes them worthwhile because it means there are more talented drivers getting a chance at the sport. Granted they are from the Red Bull program, but they get chosen for that based on an assessment of...

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I agree that Schumacher did a better job in qualifying on debut than Vettel and that Schumacher was more impressive at the very start of his career than Vettel was. However, that is only a part of the comparison between them and extrapolating it to give some sort of absolute about a speed comparison...

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Give Refuge to the Stranger by Linda Rabben. It's about the situations in which humans have provided sanctuary to others who are fleeing things such as violence and persecution. It goes into a lot of detail about the history of sanctuary and how it has evolved into the concept of asylum today. Fasci...

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Nakojo wrote:Lol - we make a great tag team, Jo, good cop, bad cop hahaha

It has worked out a bit like that!

Jo_

what a dumb OP...of course it's difficult...cos you got or 5 world champions and another 15 or so hungry to win drivers on the circuit like any other race.....rain or no rain...it's bloody hard You've got to be kidding me. You started a thread based on the false premise that Toro Rosso (which BTW y...

Jo_

I don't understand what you're trying to get out of this. No matter what reason someone posts here, I'm sure you'll find a way to counter it since you've already made up your mind that he's the greatest driver ever. People will always have their opinions. Some more rational than others. I highly do...

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What do the fia rules say on the matter. I remember 1 time. They had a minimum of 8 races and maximum of 17 to consitute a world championship. AFAIK the Concorde Agreement governs this. From 2010-2012 I believe the limit set down was 17, which could be increased to 20 with team consent. Apparently ...

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