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Then how come you don't assess evidence objectively but twist and mould it to fit your preconceived notion that he's not that good? Same reason you don't assess evidence objectively but twist and mould it to fit your preconceived notion that he is good (or at least 'the best') :) i.e. fundamentally...

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Do you make any room for the possibility that you might be wrong? Of course, which is why I'd like to see him move to another team sooner rather than later. If he really is the dog's wotsits then he'll perform to that same level elsewhere and demonstrate clearly he is what he is made out to be (I a...

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How good is Vettel really? Who knows. I don't understand why people are so desperate though, if you are so sure he's only average at best at some point he will have a car that is not good enough to fight for the title and he will have a teammate who will beat him and expose him. It's just a matter ...

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You are correct. He was shown three blue flags and one blue board. While Kimi was shown 7 blue flags and 4 blue boards before he moved over. For those saying he went a full lap, you are simply wrong. He went from turn 3 to just past turn 10. Sutil has a right to complain about the inconsistency bec...

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they are ruining it with their obsession with safety Well seeing as you don't seem to care about the harm that comes to people, I shall give you a cynical and self-interested argument as to why safety is important. If a driver is killed during an F1 race today the sport will face consequences. Peop...

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You are correct. He was shown three blue flags and one blue board. While Kimi was shown 7 blue flags and 4 blue boards before he moved over. For those saying he went a full lap, you are simply wrong. He went from turn 3 to just past turn 10. Sutil has a right to complain about the inconsistency bec...

Jo_

Unless there's another manufacturer who has 'secretly' manufactured & tested F1 tyres for 2014, F1 has a lot to lose if Pirelli choose to quit and the old boys in FIA & FOM will know that. I do think there's more happening behind the scenes than we know. Bernie might be greedy, but he ain't stupid....

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But we don't have a comparison for how fast Webber could have gone without the damage. In this instance we didn't get an 'end of the race' fastest lap from Vettel as a baseline, although I do recall a monster first sector from him on the final lap, which suggests a lot of pace in hand. Webber's fas...

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It seems you rather missed the point of the comparison, which was to point out that Messi too is lumbered with this apparent need to 'prove himself' and criticisms based on people looking for some way of discrediting him to fit their preconceived notions. As for what you've decided to do in a compa...

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Just regarding Webber yesterday I think his car was damaged when van der Garde turned in on him while being lapped, which made it more difficult for him to hold off Alonso. Didnt seem to hamper him from achieving the fastest lap of the race at the very end of the race. I don't know that that provid...

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This is just awful. My thoughts go out to his family and friends. My heart also goes out to the crane driver as well, who is going to suffer the psychological consequences of what sounds like a totally unavoidable accident. I'm very uncomfortable with the fact that everyone was enjoying the end of ...

Jo_

Just regarding Webber yesterday I think his car was damaged when van der Garde turned in on him while being lapped, which made it more difficult for him to hold off Alonso. Didnt seem to hamper him from achieving the fastest lap of the race at the very end of the race. I don't know that that provid...

Jo_

It appears to be after the race in the pit lane exit. He ran him straight over, which seems very odd as the visibility in that crane is much better than a car. This is the original clearing of the car during the race. Picture I from I have read he man bent down to pick up his radio and then it happ...

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I know they complain a lot but I've only seen them struggle in China and Spain. Otherwise they've been very strong. Aside from qualifying the Ferrari doesn't appear to have much of a weakness, but when the track suits the RBR looks fairly unbeatable. Ferrari only seem to be able to take the fight t...

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I don't even like Vettel that much, but I just cannot help myself and not support a driver who makes so many people so butthurt. People watch the sport through their pre-defined viewpoint and how they interpret things is mostly dictated by that (unless you try to thrive for objectivity which very r...

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Where do you get that impression from? And I think many would agree that the Ferrari is the best car on the grid at the moment? Don't think so. I'd say the RBR is the best, just Webber's not making the most of it. The Ferrari seems to have good race pace but struggles in qualifying, a weakness the ...

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If it wasn't my fault it wouldn't be on my conscience. If it were a negligent homicide then it would be. You should go and talk to some train drivers who hit people on the tracks. They're completely powerless to do anything because the trains aren't equipped to stop in time but they still struggle ...

Jo_

After 7 races, I am starting to think that no driver on the grid could match Vettel in the Red Bull this year. He is driving better than ever, he's comfortable and confident within the team, and the car will no doubt be something with which he is familiar. It's not that I think he's out and out the...

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After 7 races, I am starting to think that no driver on the grid could match Vettel in the Red Bull this year. He is driving better than ever, he's comfortable and confident within the team, and the car will no doubt be something with which he is familiar. It's not that I think he's out and out the...

Jo_

After 7 races, I am starting to think that no driver on the grid could match Vettel in the Red Bull this year. He is driving better than ever, he's comfortable and confident within the team, and the car will no doubt be something with which he is familiar. It's not that I think he's out and out the ...

Jo_

Why do most write Hulken burg instead of the correct Hulken berg ? No idea why his name is misspelled that often. :) I think in some instances, including this one, people are just copying the list from the OP rather than writing their own so one error becomes dozens. Probably. But I seem to have se...

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I don't even like Vettel that much, but I just cannot help myself and not support a driver who makes so many people so butthurt. People watch the sport through their pre-defined viewpoint and how they interpret things is mostly dictated by that (unless you try to thrive for objectivity which very r...

Jo_

Changed my mind about Kimi when he moved to Ferrari, it seems he became this arrogant prick, then he left for a couple of seasons and came back worse, arrogant, whining, grumpy etc. Iceman?!? whatever! Mostly Kimi and his persona (not his great driving skills, that's still unchanged). I used to be ...

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Can whinge all he wants if he keeps putting in performances like today. Very true and I suspect this is also the reason that they haven't pulled his ear yet regarding all the yapping in front of the cameras. Apparently there were also fisticuffs in FI's garage in what seems like a situation brewing...

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mds wrote:Why do most write Hulkenburg instead of the correct Hulkenberg? No idea why his name is misspelled that often.

I think in some instances, including this one, people are just copying the list from the OP rather than writing their own so one error becomes dozens.

Jo_

I hope they provide support to the crane driver as well. You mean the driver who didn't stop when he could no longer see the guy in front of the crane? The guy who just took another life by accident. See if you could have that in your conscience... If it wasn't my fault it wouldn't be on my conscie...

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Jev for sure. He was lapping people he normally runs with and did it with ease. He tied Toro Rosso a team high finish. I say he is going to try to prove himself for that second RBR seat. Not intending to push this thread off track, but as above? makes you wonder how this is possible some times and ...

Jo_

Given that a large proportion of the people booing in this instance were Alonso/Ferrari fans I fail to see how that is applicable as any sort of justification. How did you figure that one out? Considering EJ said on the podium interview "You seem to have a lot of fans here Lewis." A friend of mine ...

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I just hope his family get adequately compensated for this. Most marshals are volunteers and do it for their love motorsport, they'll probably have insurance through the circuit, but a decent payout from either FOM or/and the FIA would not go amiss. After all, they were probably rushing more than n...

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Fans have a right to an opinion about their sporting entertainers. Other than a forum, there aren't many ways to share this opinion, and booing is and always has been an effective way of conveying that opinion succinctly. Some people don't like how Vettel is as a sportsman, you may be a multiple WD...

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I wish Massa had won the 2008 WDC. I think it was a travesty that Crashgate wasn't investigated at the time as there were suspicions within the sport and it was brought to Mosley and Ecclestone's attention. Under the circumstances IMO the race results should have been discarded. By the time they did...

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This is just awful. My thoughts go out to his family and friends. My heart also goes out to the crane driver as well, who is going to suffer the psychological consequences of what sounds like a totally unavoidable accident. I'm very uncomfortable with the fact that everyone was enjoying the end of ...

Jo_

It doesn't seem to matter what anyone else does. The Red Bull's just seem to be a step ahead. But I am not sure that this season is over yet. Red Bull are heavy favourites now and the odds are against the others but I still think Ferrari and Alonso will put something together to at least challenge ...

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I'm surprised there aren't more votes for Vergne. It was a fairly anonymous race, but I thought he drove impeccably to finish 6th, which is an excellent result for Toro Rosso and he absolutely dominated his teammate. Honourable mentions to di Resta, Vettel and Alonso. di Resta did a brilliant job to...

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I voted it a 5. I found this race a bit frustrating. There was potential for a few interesting battles and strategic intrigues, but they didn't seem to reach that potential. For me things going wrong actually interfered with a lot of the possible racing. Webber looked like chasing down Hamilton alon...

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no its low class, low brow human nature. You cheer your man - respect the rival with silence. Sports is about fair play - not villanising. The only time when Vettel perhaps deserved a boo was when he ignored a team order and took a win from a team mate. :thumbup: Couldn't agree more. It's low-class...

Jo_

This is just awful. My thoughts go out to his family and friends. My heart also goes out to the crane driver as well, who is going to suffer the psychological consequences of what sounds like a totally unavoidable accident. I'm very uncomfortable with the fact that everyone was enjoying the end of t...

Jo_

Yes well done, what a prediction!

(we need a clapping emoticon)

Jo_

IMO it's not the working hours in F1 that are the problem but the extensive traveling. Even if someone works 16 hour days they generally still go home at night, but for those in the racing teams they spend long periods working away. Sports like NASCAR don't require the same degree of traveling beca...

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IMO it's not the working hours in F1 that are the problem but the extensive traveling. Even if someone works 16 hour days they generally still go home at night, but for those in the racing teams they spend long periods working away. Sports like NASCAR don't require the same degree of traveling becau...

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