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Even If I except all this.... Are you really continuing to argue that it's fine for a driver to drive in a manor that relies on other drivers having this super power? The last part is a fine line, whether what Alonso did in Australia crossed that line is obviously something that not everyone agrees...

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I will give you this nice bit of science to digest. Yes, I expect drivers to use a whole lot more peripheral vision than ordinary people do and be a lot better at processing a lot of information simultaneously. A boss I used to work for, who was very athletic by all accounts and could probably have...

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I thought this comment from Russell was very telling. Caught napping in other words. "Obviously a bit of a strange situation that happened last week. Totally caught by surprise. I was actually looking at the steering wheel, making a switch change in the straight, which, you know, we all do across t...

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The relevance lies is that Bottas for all intents and purposes is not an accurate yardstick, this has been clear all along, and we can see that play out at Sauber. That gets countered with excuses as in “Bottas does not really try” or “Bottas is only good in a top car”. That than leads some to give...

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Barrichello was clearly much better than Irvine but could not trouble Schumacher. That does not mean that he and Bottas were of a similar level of course. I think much better is stretching it, he was a bit better. I haven't looked into it much but I think that Barrichello and Massa are probably abo...

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Sorry you've lost me a bit, what is the relevance of Barrichello? regarding Bottas or the certainty by which we can judge drivers against Hamilton? Honestly I don't remember anything about barrichellos pre-ferrari career it was before my time, he was a prospect sure but only in the same way I remem...

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Just checked on Wikipedia (it is a very long time ago), Barrichello beat all of his teammates from his debut in 1994 to his switch to Ferrari at the back end of 1999. Now these weren't illustrious teammates to be fair. That does not take away from the impression at the time that Barrichello could a...

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There is no such thing as a known quantity when it comes to drivers in Formula One. Ofcourse, but it's about as good as you're going to get. Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas someti...

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Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas sometimes matching and even outperforming Hamilton is something that potentially weighs against his legacy, rather than for it. Barrichello was con...

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There is no such thing as a known quantity when it comes to drivers in Formula One. Ofcourse, but it's about as good as you're going to get. Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas someti...

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Tou do realise that this impression is also based on circular logic. Bottas was not trounced by Hamilton, therefore he must be pretty good in a top car. There are other explanations possible of course that do not paint Bottas’ performances in such a great light. What's basically being said is that ...

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That is not what I meant of course. Which is why I wrote 2025 and 2056. Hamilton may still surprise us this year, but it looks like far less likely than what could expected based on the pre-season comments that either he or the team made. You're clearly basing it on just 3 races, Hamilton finished ...

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Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas sometimes matching and even outperforming Hamilton is something that potentially weighs against his legacy, rather than for it. Barrichello was con...

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Just checked on Wikipedia (it is a very long time ago), Barrichello beat all of his teammates from his debut in 1994 to his switch to Ferrari at the back end of 1999. Now these weren't illustrious teammates to be fair. That does not take away from the impression at the time that Barrichello could a...

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Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas sometimes matching and even outperforming Hamilton is something that potentially weighs against his legacy, rather than for it. Barrichello was con...

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So news of Hamilton's demise in a 3 race sample is quickly quelled in a weekend for the first time this season he wasn't experimenting with set up. Focus now perhaps shifts to the demise of Leclerc in a 2 race sample, the season is 24 races long, just saying. Ricciardo's badly mangled chassis, in hi...

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MEF24 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:59 am
Lewis worried about pole position as usual...your fighting for 4th wake up

Yeah just forget what Verstappen is doing in a much better car, I'm sure that's not who Russell has as his target.

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Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas sometimes matching and even outperforming Hamilton is something that potentially weighs against his legacy, rather than for it. Barrichello was con...

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There is no such thing as a known quantity when it comes to drivers in Formula One. Ofcourse, but it's about as good as you're going to get. Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas someti...

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I gave my answer which you quickly dismissed, since then other more prominent figures have come up with the same answer. I see. No I don't, but let's just leave it there. The real problem isn't whether Alonso faked a throttle problem or not, it is whether a dangerous situation existed, or a potenti...

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There is no such thing as a known quantity when it comes to drivers in Formula One. Ofcourse, but it's about as good as you're going to get. Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas someti...

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Tou do realise that this impression is also based on circular logic. Bottas was not trounced by Hamilton, therefore he must be pretty good in a top car. There are other explanations possible of course that do not paint Bottas’ performances in such a great light. Hamilton is a known quantity that's ...

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It's a circular argument anyway. Bottas was closer to Hamilton than Perez is to Verstappen. We don't know if that's due to Bottas doing better than Perez or if it's to Verstappen doing better than Hamilton. I suppose it could be both. Personally I think Bottas skill set makes him more effective in ...

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I think if Hamilton has another two years like this (as in 2025 and 2026), it will hurt his legacy and more emphasis will be put on the cars he was driving. 3 races makes a season now plus Hamilton would make mincemeat out of Perez. That is not what I meant of course. Which is why I wrote 2025 and ...

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Races Hamilton lost in 2019-2020 Australia 2019 - jumped at the start by Bottas, picked up floor damage during the race, I find it difficult to imagine that he would’ve been able to overtake around the old Melbourne layout. That track was poor for passing. Baku 2019 - outraced by Bottas Austria 201...

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It just shows you know everything about Red Bull but nothing about Mercedes, slow pitstops, strategy blunders, how Red Bull operate is on a different level, they managed to get Hamilton penalised in the opening race of the 2020 season by presenting evidence to the stewards that he had not slowed do...

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It's a circular argument anyway. Bottas was closer to Hamilton than Perez is to Verstappen. We don't know if that's due to Bottas doing better than Perez or if it's to Verstappen doing better than Hamilton. I suppose it could be both. Personally I think Bottas skill set makes him more effective in ...

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It's a circular argument anyway. Bottas was closer to Hamilton than Perez is to Verstappen. We don't know if that's due to Bottas doing better than Perez or if it's to Verstappen doing better than Hamilton. I suppose it could be both. Personally I think Bottas skill set makes him more effective in ...

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It just shows you know everything about Red Bull but nothing about Mercedes, slow pitstops, strategy blunders, how Red Bull operate is on a different level, they managed to get Hamilton penalised in the opening race of the 2020 season by presenting evidence to the stewards that he had not slowed do...

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Races Verstappen has lost in the ground effect era Australia 2024 - car failure Singapore 2023 - car nowhere near quick enough Baku 2023 - leading until the safety car gave Perez a free pit stop Jeddah 2023 - quickest in Q1 by half a second but car fails in Q2 Brazil 2022 - car not quick enough as ...

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I reckon I've seen the careers of 5 all time great drivers in my time watching F1. I only seen the tail end of Prost and Senna so never lived through it to judge the whole picture. In terms of overall attributes - I'd rate them: 1) Alonso 2) Schumacher 3) Verstappen 4) Hamilton (Some daylight) 5) V...

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Races Verstappen has lost in the ground effect era Australia 2024 - car failure Singapore 2023 - car nowhere near quick enough Baku 2023 - leading until the safety car gave Perez a free pit stop Jeddah 2023 - quickest in Q1 by half a second but car fails in Q2 Brazil 2022 - car not quick enough as ...

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I agree that Hamilton is the biggest star this sport has probably ever produced, in terms of global fame. That said, I think Verstappen is hurting Hamilton’s legacy a bit from a driving perspective. If you look back at posts in 2019 and 2020, everyone was full of praise for Hamilton, and nobody rea...

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Regardless of the end points that you choose to use, the point remains the same. Lewis in 2019-2020 won 59.5% of the time (22/37) with no car failures. Since the start of 2022 Max has won 76.6% of the time with three car failures* (36/47). I'm fine including Bahrain and Australia from 2022 as Charl...

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I see. No I don't, but let's just leave it there. The real problem isn't whether Alonso faked a throttle problem or not, it is whether a dangerous situation existed, or a potentially dangerous situation. Perhaps even more pressing is the question what kind of penalty will be given now for truly dan...

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You said how was Alonso able to fake it, answers on a postcard, kind of looks like you didn't think it was possible. I asked a question, which you might have understood from the use of the ? at the end. I gave my answer which you quickly dismissed, since then other more prominent figures have come ...

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So, I never said that Alonso couldn't fake it, and I never said that Alonso didn't fake it. But according to you, I said it was impossible. Show me where I made such a ridiculous claim, or stop twisting what I did actually say. You said how was Alonso able to fake it, answers on a postcard, kind of...

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01. Verstappen
02. Perez
03. Norris
04. Leclerc
05. Sainz
06. Piastri
07. Russell
08. Alonso
09. Hamilton
10. Stroll

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Neither should he if the other options are Sainz and Alonso. If you're referring to Perez, the pressure to finish 2nd in WDC gets the add-on pressure of Sainz & Alonso's availability. It all depends what Red Bull want from a driver in the 2nd seat. With Verstappen now seemingly having a get out cla...

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mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:00 pm
Neither should he if the other options are Sainz and Alonso.

True but my point really was that if it was the other way round then Ricciardo would be getting the Red Bull seat.

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