Search found 827 matches

by F1 Racer
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:50 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Safety car restarts.
Replies: 18
Views: 4763

Re: Safety car restarts.

Anybody know if the FIA or Race Director have some sort of Set of Rules governing when the safety car is deployed? Not to my knowledge they don't. The last thing they would want is to be forced into doing or not doing certain actions. They much prefer to do what they want in the moment, and then tr...
by F1 Racer
Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:37 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Safety car restarts.
Replies: 18
Views: 4763

Re: Safety car restarts.

Basically it was bad enough in the 90's and 00's that you used to lose your 30 second lead over the guy behind you, but at least you could keep the seven lapped cars in place between you and the guy behind so you still had a reasonable buffer to the guy in second once the race got underway again. No...
by F1 Racer
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:00 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Safety car restarts.
Replies: 18
Views: 4763

Re: Safety car restarts.

It's easy. When the pace car comes in to the pit, the following cars all have to travel at the same speed, bit like the pit lane limiter but faster. Then, when they cross a line on the track, off they go. What if, a really big what if, they had a limiter button, like the pit limiter. So when the VS...
by F1 Racer
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:03 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Safety car restarts.
Replies: 18
Views: 4763

Re: Safety car restarts.

Here are Ross Brawn's worrying comments: ''He (Verstappen) was particularly strong at the second re-start, when he slowed the field right down with the aim of ensuring no one would be able to slipstream past him and snatch victory. It was an exciting and fascinating re-start which will be analysed v...
by F1 Racer
Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:25 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Safety car restarts.
Replies: 18
Views: 4763

Re: Safety car restarts.

Rather than trying to decrease the unfair disruption to races that the SC causes, instead they see the introduction of the SC as an asset and they are looking at how they can increase it's 'effectiveness' going forwards. It's pretty disturbing really for fans of true racing. To me it seems pretty si...
by F1 Racer
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Safety car restarts.
Replies: 18
Views: 4763

Re: Safety car restarts.

The fact that they are trying to use the safety car to spice up the racing makes me think even more that currently the "safety" car is being used disingenuously. Exactly, the safety car restarts in Brazil created overtaking and action that shouldn't and wouldn't have happened if Bottas' car doesn't...
by F1 Racer
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:03 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I think Hamilton was a little unlucky to get a penalty for that tbh, I'd probably chalk that up as a racing incident. I think his after race comments may have contributed which is a bit ridiculous tbh. Hamilton and Mercedes offered no defence in the stewards inquiry, so there was no option not to g...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

Because it was between teammates, the stewards (wrongly) elected to not get involved as they don't want to add insult to injury. They did not get involved when the Red Bulls crashed into each other last year in Baku for example, or the Haas' cars hitting each other in Britain. Leclerc was just driv...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I've read some interesting stuff on this forum before, but the attempt to call the Ferrari crash a racing incident, and in one case where it seems Charles is to blame, is simply beyond staggering! Well from the horses mouth, the stewards themselves, Vettel wasn't penalised because they apportioned ...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I've read some interesting stuff on this forum before, but the attempt to call the Ferrari crash a racing incident, and in one case where it seems Charles is to blame, is simply beyond staggering! Well from the horses mouth, the stewards themselves, Vettel wasn't penalised because they apportioned ...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I've read some interesting stuff on this forum before, but the attempt to call the Ferrari crash a racing incident, and in one case where it seems Charles is to blame, is simply beyond staggering! Well from the horses mouth, the stewards themselves, Vettel wasn't penalised because they apportioned ...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:16 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Unpopular opinions (2019)
Replies: 268
Views: 69545

Re: Unpopular opinions (2019)

I don't really see the point (pun intended) in not giving the drivers outside of the top 10 a chance for the fastest lap point. There would also be the case that you would see teams that virtually never get points doing some of the most odd strategies to get fastest lap at the end. This would then ...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I think Hamilton was a little unlucky to get a penalty for that tbh, I'd probably chalk that up as a racing incident. I think his after race comments may have contributed which is a bit ridiculous tbh. The stewards 'robbed' Vettel of victory in Canada and the crowd were unhappy at the farce and the...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

Albon has not ever passed one of the top 5 in the WDC in a normal racing move* has he? Yet we suddenly assume that he would despite the other driver having better tyres and being a better racer? *The Vettel pass from yesterday does not count as it was from a SC restart, therefore not requiring Albo...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

Thinking about it, Albon probably would have re-passed him with DRS on the main straight too. Unless Hamilton got DRS from Max He probably would have if he conceeded the corner Albon has not ever passed one of the top 5 in the WDC in a normal racing move* has he? Yet we suddenly assume that he woul...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

Then why are the cars being recovered before they line up behind the safety car effectively under VSC conditions anyway? And wouldn't it be Masi's policy? They are recovered ASAP and SC takes some time to bunch up, so I'm not sure what you mean there. I am not sure if Masi wrote this policy or not....
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I've read some interesting stuff on this forum before, but the attempt to call the Ferrari crash a racing incident, and in one case where it seems Charles is to blame, is simply beyond staggering! Of course, and like someone else mentioned before, why didn't the Sky pundits have the balls to ask Bi...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

So the FIA has apparently explained the need for the SC. Bottas was trying to get the steering wheel back and failed, so he bailed as not to stay on the track for too long. The marshals managed to do it eventually, but the car wouldn't go to neutral so they couldn't take it out of the track without...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

Thinking about it, Albon probably would have re-passed him with DRS on the main straight too. Unless Hamilton got DRS from Max He probably would have if he conceeded the corner Albon has not ever passed one of the top 5 in the WDC in a normal racing move* has he? Yet we suddenly assume that he woul...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

So the FIA has apparently explained the need for the SC. Bottas was trying to get the steering wheel back and failed, so he bailed as not to stay on the track for too long. The marshals managed to do it eventually, but the car wouldn't go to neutral so they couldn't take it out of the track without...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

So the FIA has apparently explained the need for the SC. Bottas was trying to get the steering wheel back and failed, so he bailed as not to stay on the track for too long. The marshals managed to do it eventually, but the car wouldn't go to neutral so they couldn't take it out of the track without...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

. Re. Vettel/Leclerc this was just Vettel channelling his inner Schumaker - only when Schumaker did it he launched his teammate's car into the air and was undamaged himself - and, of course, he got away without a penalty. . You can at least get his name right, even if it is to channel your inner Mc...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I'm happy for Sainz but if the rules explicitly state that the DRS shall not be used during yellows, then it's a clear cut penalty IMO. I think their reasoning for not handing one was that he slowed down even though he used DRS... Do you have the details on this? Is there at replay somewhere showin...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

Thinking about it, Albon probably would have re-passed him with DRS on the main straight too. Unless Hamilton got DRS from Max Maybe so, but obviously it's not relevant to the incident in question. With LH's better speed and tyre advantage, I doubt Albon would have repassed him on the main straight...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

The apology means nothing, it was just a kind gesture to say that sort of thing when he doesn't really care whether he comes 3rd or 7th in this race with the WDC title already in the bag. If this race mattered to LH, he would have been saying ''Albon was crazy to be turning in on me like that'' or ...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:16 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

The apology means nothing, it was just a kind gesture to say that sort of thing when he doesn't really care whether he comes 3rd or 7th in this race with the WDC title already in the bag. If this race mattered to LH, he would have been saying ''Albon was crazy to be turning in on me like that'' or ...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

I’m in agreement with F1 racer for once, but I do want to see the onboards. That wasn’t Hamiltons fault and a big trait of the current Hamilton is to be over apologetic (unless it’s with Rosberg) and very self critical to his own mistakes. So his apology to me is more a sorry I lost you your first ...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

Albon lacks speed but that move on Vettel from outside was very skillful. He deserved a podium just for that. Quite baffling why Hamilton has not been handed over penalty for running into him. Kvyat would not even allowed to be podium or being interviewed if he was there instead of Hamilton :uhoh: ...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:51 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I'm not defending the SC decisions, but it seems that as soon as a tractor is needed on track, the SC is deployed. Probably a change in protocol to prevent a repeat of Bianchi. That would be a sensible approach if it weren't for the fact that as soon as a safety car is called they bring the tractor...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:56 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

I think that's totally ridiculous to be honest. Hamilton has gotten the short end of it when it comes to penalties. They let Leclerc get away with a lot in defending against him back at Monza but they apply the penalty to Hamilton today. If you think he benefits from the stewards, I'd like to know ...
by F1 Racer
Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:49 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I'm not defending the SC decisions, but it seems that as soon as a tractor is needed on track, the SC is deployed. Probably a change in protocol to prevent a repeat of Bianchi. Yeah I considered that too but I wonder why they didn't just leave the car there rather than disrupting the race the way t...
by F1 Racer
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

Clarky wrote:No further action on the Vettel-Leclerc collision
Because they are teammates and keeping the narrative that they are both to blame and it's ''teammates at war'' is healthier for the sport presumably.
by F1 Racer
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

Having now seen Hamilton's onboard footage from the collision, I think the penalty is correct. It was a rather desparate lunge, and steaming into the apex with a locked brake meant that a collision was pretty inevitable regardless of what Albon did. Rather uncharacteristic of Lewis in recent years,...
by F1 Racer
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

The more I watch the Vettel-Leclerc incident the worse it looks. Vettel moved over SO early on the straight and was really trying to push his luck. It had a whiff of Perez Singapore about it, though obviously not as bad. Of course. SV tried to move into CL's lane. CL just kept in his lane. As alway...
by F1 Racer
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

Albon lacks speed but that move on Vettel from outside was very skillful. He deserved a podium just for that. Quite baffling why Hamilton has not been handed over penalty for running into him. Kvyat would not even allowed to be podium or being interviewed if he was there instead of Hamilton :uhoh: ...
by F1 Racer
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Albon in, Gasly out
Replies: 428
Views: 87598

Re: Albon in, Gasly out

Albon had a shocker today, he was probably on course to finish about 50 seconds behind Max if the race wasn't safety car'ed. Bottas was pretty bad himself but would have beaten Albon still even with worse equipment at this circuit. Leclerc too, despite a worse car and starting way behind him on the...
by F1 Racer
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I am trying to work out, but is it correct, that outside the top 3 teams, 2 races this year, Toro Rosso have scored more points than any other team at any race? I can't quite remember the finishing position of albon in germany. was it 6th? I just think it is impressive that this team has likely twi...
by F1 Racer
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

Gutted for Albon but I don't think that's a penalty for Hamilton. Albon left the door wide open and, having done so, he needed to leave a car's width on the inside there instead of turning all the way in. It's a shame but I think it has to go down as a racing incident. Why is it a racing incident w...
by F1 Racer
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

The penalty for Lewis is fair enough anyway, though it was marginal and arguably a racing incident. No, it is not fair enough, it is just there to be politically correct as everyone feels sorry for Albon and Hamilton doesn't really care about losing a 3rd place. Penalising LH is a ''win-win'' situa...
by F1 Racer
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 440
Views: 66794

Re: 2019 Brazilian Grand Prix Race Thread

I'm somewhat confused by this response? But okie dokie. I am sure. You are speaking about Vettel and Leclerc, and I was speaking about the commentators, upset at them. Seb was ahead after passing on the outside in turn 3 and naturally he was going to pull of Charles along the straight. But for some...