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tmzxaar wrote:Lol @ people who think that RB will do the 1000km test in a 2013 car now.

I'm sure Pirelli wouldn't agree to that...

Don't think anyone genuinely thinks they will. Its more of a joke

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Sevenfest wrote:Suck it Horner

I imagine he will be too busy making arrangements for a tyre test with Pirelli mate

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wonder if red bull will just do a private test now, and take the ban from the ytd - i know i would This. I just don't get the reasoning behind it, but the FIA got so tangled up in all of it I'm not even surprised. Still, missing out on a YDT is hardly a punishment for a 1000km test... :-| Agreed. P...

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http://www.fia.com/news/international-tribunal-0

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So Merc pretty much got their own suggested punishment? I dont imagine RB and Ferrari to be too happy with the outcome

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Reprimand and a ban from YDT according to Sky

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There is one major difference between Ross Brawn and Christian Horner, that is Ross Brawn has and does still play a significant part to all the teams he has been involved with, be it right or wrong. Christian Horner however sits as a puppet leader of a team which relies solely upon the skills and d...

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There is one major difference between Ross Brawn and Christian Horner, that is Ross Brawn has and does still play a significant part to all the teams he has been involved with, be it right or wrong. Christian Horner however sits as a puppet leader of a team which relies solely upon the skills and d...

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to add a bit of spice for the time till the verdict... it certainly looks like not everyone inside the merc-gp team is so sure about being in the right: http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/07734 "But our bosses Toto Wolff and Ross Brawn refused. Now they have to live with it." Ol'good Niki Lauda....

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I feel we see hate spreading more these day is because some of these morons have a platform to spread hate. 20 years ago after Vettel hit Bruno would they have so many platforms to spread hate? Facebook,twitter,even this forum give them a voice to a very large audience.In general social media is a ...

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Realmonster wrote:Geeez harden up!

I dislike the guy and I would boo him if I want to, regardless where he finished, podium or not podium, win or no win.

Good timing..... Here we have an example

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I love Lewis and I was saying ages ago he seems to care more about his legacy, he is just confirming what I already knew. He needs to start worrying about doing his job and not doing a Beckham. Exactly. In F1 you need that mentality. As a team you try to win the WCC and the WDC will follow. As a dr...

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KERS seems fine to me, but DRS is stupid. I explained it to my family who have no interest in F1 while watching and even they could tell it was a stupid idea. If DRS was altered to be like KERS where the driver could use it for a certain amount of time per lap but choose where himself it would be b...

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Its a pretty disappointing thing to witness but I don't think anything can be done. F1 becomes more and more popular. The current generation of drivers like Hamilton for example attract new fan bases to the sport which means more variety in the type of people who watch F1. As long as most fans respe...

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Just a little mention, when a Hamilton legacy thread has the slightest mention of Vettel's achievements the moderators around here go public and put and end to it. Every Vettel fan, must stop. Here, a Vettel fan is trying to simply discuss on the forum about every fan's good and bad moments and peo...

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KERS seems fine to me, but DRS is stupid. I explained it to my family who have no interest in F1 while watching and even they could tell it was a stupid idea. If DRS was altered to be like KERS where the driver could use it for a certain amount of time per lap but choose where himself it would be b...

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to add a bit of spice for the time till the verdict... it certainly looks like not everyone inside the merc-gp team is so sure about being in the right: http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/07734 :lol: There is so much deception in this sport its unreal. I love it! Interesting though, will Wolff a...

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Just a little mention, when a Hamilton legacy thread has the slightest mention of Vettel's achievements the moderators around here go public and put and end to it. Every Vettel fan, must stop. Here, a Vettel fan is trying to simply discuss on the forum about every fan's good and bad moments and peo...

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So... It's the morning after the Tribunal before. So what's going to be the outcome? To be clear, I'm asking here what you think will happen, not what you think should happen. Here are my thoughts: FIA: Charlie Whiting will lose his job. I suspect the legal advisor (Bertrand?) will also be shown th...

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My Best: Abu Dhabi 2010 - Championship victory, plus very exciting. Vettel wins. Abu Dhabi 2012 - Just awesome. Love Abu Dhabi. Vettel comes from the back Monaco 2011 - Special race for SV to win, very exciting too. Vettel wins My Worst: Monaco 2012 - Terribly boring. Webber wins Valencia 2012 - Pr...

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I don't recall saying that your choices suck. Nor did I even imply it. I'm just saying that had you labelled the thread as something like "What races do you remember your favourite driver most for?" then my top 3 would have been entirely different. Instead of choosing Canada '11, Turkey '10 and Ger...

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So...Mercedes entire defence is that they asked Charlie if using the 2013 car would be a breach, in general terms, and he said no.... Pretty weak Ross! no... their entire defence is that pirelli ran the test and therefore the rules don't apply... actually a pretty nice thing... imagine renault can ...

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Abu Dhabi 2010 - Championship victory, plus very exciting. Abu Dhabi 2012 - Just awesome. Love Abu Dhabi. Abu Dhabi is fairy cakes. :thumbup: Cant agree, Its one of my favorite street style circuits. I have always felt its a good compromise between a race like Singapore where overtaking is simply n...

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I don't think the fact that a driver might die is something that attracts new fans... If anything id say it turns people away from the sport, a lot of people wouldn't want to encourage a sport in which people die. We as fans see it differently to those on the outside, to us the death of a driver is...

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Who's blaming him for 2012? I'm just saying that 2012 car was excellent... nothing more and nothing less. Its tied into his legacy 2012, as I have said his performances at times were outstanding. 2012 the car was fast, but supported by a team of cowboys and could be unreliable . That cost Lewis, no...

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runningman67 wrote:
Seanie wrote: The wire cam at Silverstone that follows the cars around three corners.
Yes, I love the wire cams.

And when a Helicopter shot follows the same car around track for almost the full lap.

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KERS seems fine to me, but DRS is stupid. I explained it to my family who have no interest in F1 while watching and even they could tell it was a stupid idea. If DRS was altered to be like KERS where the driver could use it for a certain amount of time per lap but choose where himself it would be b...

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KERS seems fine to me, but DRS is stupid. I explained it to my family who have no interest in F1 while watching and even they could tell it was a stupid idea. If DRS was altered to be like KERS where the driver could use it for a certain amount of time per lap but choose where himself it would be be...

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If it was a 2010 car they are fine. If it was the current car then yes they should indeed have been punished for it. I doubt the other teams would have let it slide while Ferrari were getting podiums and a big haul of points. So my guess is it was legal.

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Best: Abu Dhabi 12 - Cant remember being bored, Vettels brilliant drive from the pit lane and to top it off Raikkonens win. Germany 09 - You could tell how desperate he was for that first win. Canada 11 - Button. Worst: Brazil 08 - No problems with who won the championship but the way in which it ha...

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@SH1348 you say 'It's the 'vibe' he gives off. He constantly credits himself, boasts about his achievements, and sometimes it seems a little desperate. It's like he is so desperate for people for people to appreciate and adore him. It's just what I get from when I read transcripts of interviews, wa...

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This forum is a Hamilton love fest most days. Sooner everyone recognises that the better :P Not sure where this comes from, I think most vocal and frequent posters on here have not so good view on him. :thumbup: Agreed the more vocal of posters tend to have pretty negative things to say about Vette...

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As much as contracts are no guarantee in F1, you'd have to assume that Mercedes line-up will remain unchanged for 2014. Which immediately sets the bar for the strongest 2014 driver pairing. Perez/Button doesn't match it, and unless something amazing happens, I feel confident saying that from them/F...

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But team orders were banned in 2010, weren't they? Sure they were ;) I can understand them giving preference on, say, strategy, but for one driver to pull over and gift the win would have been crossing the line somewhat, and I really don't see that happening when both were in with a shout at the ti...

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So why run a 2013 if it wasn't asked for? If Merc wanted to run a 2011 car then why didn't they? According to Pirelli, Merc said it was not operational ... broad term i'd say... Didn't Micheal do a promotional drive at NordSchleife with Mercedes W02 recently :) Of course. It was all planned out to ...

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I assume Row 2, furthest right is the Findia drivers... I can't even say which is which. I'd guess right is Sutil but honestly, I'm not even sure I believe it is them. Edit: Given one looks like Hulk, probably not. Nah mate, Furthest right row 2 are the Saubers. Its the first 2 on row 3 Force India...

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Really liking Pirelli today. Blunt and 'Badass' style of opening. They are pretty much saying "What the f**k are you gonna do?" Brilliant

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I am glad to see Vettels success over his rivals being discussed once again but isnt all this a little off topic? :thumbup: I tried not too get involved but I couldn't help it. Apologies to anyone who wanted to read something not about Vettel today. Anyone else want to get this thread back onto Ham...

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Equal status? gimme a break. you believe that because it paints your fav driver in a more positive light. Webber was known as a fast driver and a hard racer before he went to red bull. What happened? where did his natural ability and will to win go? I'll tell you where....Red bull made him the numb...

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According to the Sky website, Damon Hill reckons Merc will either be lumbered with a fine or lose all contructors points. I agree with him in part - i reckon Merc will be DSQed from this years WCC. According to the Sky website, Damon Hill reckons Merc will either be lumbered with a fine or lose all...

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