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Even if it was an unsafe release, I’m sure Max didn’t think it his fault when Red Bull unsafely released him a while ago, so why would this be Lance’s?

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I guess Vettel would find himself in breach of contract if he did that, and have to pay damages to a team that seem to be rubbing salt into the wound having already told him his services were no longer required. 1 place penalty? The stewards must be feeling sorry for him after his being dropped. If ...

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Problem being there are no good seats available for Perez - unless Hamilton shocks everyone and doesn’t sign with Mercedes. The best he can hope for seems to be that Haas finally change one or both drivers (still shocked that they didn’t do it last year) but that’s not exactly an encouraging opening...

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F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:30 pm
Not sure why Norris didnt get a penalty for driving to slow in the pits.

Agreed. When you hand out a severe penalty for something but let somebody else off, it does start to feel that it is contrived. A penalty for Norris would have helped Bottas I’m guessing.

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I would have given it a drive through, 5 second stop-go at the very most. That would have cost them the time that the other cars would have spent pitting under normal conditions. The point of a penalty is to stop a driver gaining an advantage by breaking the rules, surely? 10 second-stop go is the m...

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Feel bad for Sainz. He isn’t going to get another shot at a win where he’s headed next year either, and I genuinely believe his comment post race that he would have had 2nd on merit behind Hamilton. I also thought the first safety car was an overreaction. VSC, surely? At this point it feels like wha...

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I think they both have, but I’d give Alonso a better chance at winning again of the two. Seb is far too error prone these days and far too often.

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I don’t think Hamilton or anyone will be getting the Grand Slam record while the fastest lap rule remains, Hat Tricks too. He was denied another on Sunday by Ricciardo. I’m surprised Sky Sports haven’t made more of the countdown to the most wins to be honest, though judging by the commentary lately,...

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Surprised that Renault withdrew it. I wonder is it a financial thing as Ferrari are the team best placed to continue if so, and appear to be the only one doing so.

Though watching Racing Point this weekend, part of me wonders if they have voluntarily made some kind of change themselves.

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I didn’t think the stewarding last year was particularly great either, but now I just have the feeling that it isn’t so much about whether any rules are broken but what happens after an incident. If one car retires, the other driver involved in the incident automatically seems to get a 5 second pena...

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So pleased for Hulk, but given his run of luck I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up retiring as a result of a first lap collision with Max. Sainz’s move to Ferrari for next year doesn’t look as bad this week. Wasn’t Seb on the soft while Charles was on the medium? Last year was embarrassing enough ...

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I’m not surprised there is a queue of teams appealing, as someone said Renault have not won this unless 15 points happens to be the difference between them and Racing Point at the end of the season. They have no way of really quantifying how many points Racing Point have scored that they would not h...

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It does feel rather like the bad strategists Ferrari had last year are now at Mercedes.

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Bottas would potentially have been a masterstroke. Proven #2 and him moving on might upset the balance at Merc and end Hamilton’s winning streak.

I’d like to see Ricciardo in there though. His time is more limited and I like the Sainz/Norris double act.

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I think he’ll get it after WDC No 8, if he wins it, otherwise when he retires.

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I also thought of Hamilton being committed to McLaren for a similar period and how it wasn’t great for him at the end, but for Ferrari, I guess it secures Leclerc for the lowest they could possibly get him. He now won’t be able to use a future WDC in negotiations for some time. I don’t think we’ll e...

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Why the hell did this race have an SC for the Bottas blow up? It is a joke the way that race control like to manipulate races and turn dry races into wet race lotteries like this. The VSC should be used unless there is no other alternative but to SC the race as a last resort. What is the point of t...

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So the decision was made within 4 minutes of them reporting to the stewards I believe, looking at Vettel and Leclerc immediately getting called at 16:49 and Albon and Hamilton having been required to report at 16:45. Should have just given the podium to Sainz when Hamilton took the blame in intervie...

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I just want to note the fantastic driving between Gasly and Hamilton coming down to the chequered flags. Wheels overlapping at 180MPH whilst turning. That could have been a plane crash. I actually think it was a bit poor of hamilton getting that close to gasly when his wing was flapping around like...

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I’m also thinking racing incident but that Hamilton has invited them to give him a penalty just like Max did (though Max’s failure to slow was a slam dunk for me; hilarious to see him accuse Lewis of the same this race.) Everyone feels bad for Alex and I think Lewis let that come across too much the...

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I’m surprised Hamilton didn’t get DOTD in Britain - he set the fastest lap on the last lap on a worn set of hard tyres as I recall.

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Sky saying Lewis takes the championship with 8th or 9th with Fastest Lap. That’s wrong, isn’t it? He needs 4 points and 9th + fastest lap is only 3.

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Sky are saying he needs 4 points in Austin but doesn’t he need to outscore Bottas by 4? Since he needed to outscore him by 14 today and outscored him by 10.

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen the ‘no investigation necessary’ banner more in one race.

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Good call from the stewards. They had to set a firm precedent. Verstappen's press conference was so arrogant just dismissively saying that they can delete the Lap if they wanted as his previous lap was good enough. Part of me wonders whether that triggered the FIA to act. It seemed earlier that the...

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I agree they should have announced the investigation sooner. That’s the least amount of notice I’ve seen for someone to report to the stewards.

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mikeyg123 wrote:So with the Vettel jump start thing.

That clearly distracted Leclerc. So in the future could drivers not game a little bit on this.

It wouldn’t surprise me, hopefully the tolerance is removed if they do though.

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I was thinking about the silence that greeted Lewis when he asked what he needed to do to win the race. Maybe Hamilton could have made the end on the mediums, maybe he couldn’t, I just felt it would have been better viewing, knowing that Ferrari had the straight line speed advantage. He could surely...

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Lost in all these other controversies... How is it possible that Albon can absolutely plow into the side of Norris with a move that wasn't even close to being on and not receive so much as the vaunted warning flag? Why does Leclerc get a penalty for contact with Verstappen and Albon doesn't get one...

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I was thinking about the two parts of this and from the perspective of the penalty being more severe for continuing with a car that was clearly damaged than for causing a collision, it did make sense. 5 seconds for effectively ending Verstappen’s race seemed lenient when looking at it in isolation, ...

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Leclerc’s penalty is a two part penalty, 5 seconds for the collision and 10 for staying out with a damaged car: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/leclerc-penalty-japan-verstappen-wing/4557331/?post=organic&nrt=54 Interesting read as during the race it seemed very much like it was Charles alone deci...

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I picked Sainz and Ricciardo also. Hopefully Leclerc gets a 10 second penalty, allowing the honeybadger to take 6th. I don’t know how he could continue on with a damaged car when Bianchi will affect him more than most if not all of the others. Surely his engineer told him debris was flying off of hi...

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One would have thought they would pay back Bottas once Hamilton has the WDC in the bag too, but instead he’s just lost 9 points to Bottas. Schumacher paid back Rubens after sealing the title in 2002 didn’t he? 1-2 would have been an easier way of sealing the constructors’ than needing Hamilton to ho...

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Didn’t it just say tyre condition 70%? Why didn’t he stay out?

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Wondering why they didn’t put Hamilton on the hards.

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How has Leclerc not got a penalty yet? Max is out of the race and Leclerc continued with a damaged car, ignoring team instructions and spraying debris around.

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What the actual...

How was what Vettel did any different to what Kimi did?

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Seb must be getting a drive through if they keep things consistent. Kimi Raikkonen got one for his false start.

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Do Williams have a front wing to use, that is the question?

Shame Alex set the time second, having matched Max it would have been good to see him start ahead.

Tried staying up but I fell asleep during the build up show. Got the recording on now and hoping I’m still awake when the race starts!

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I wasn’t sure how long the show was usually. It wouldn’t surprise me if Channel 4 got more viewers due to the time difference. Who knows what they are showing then, perhaps just a few clips of qualifying and then talking about the result. Half an hour should be easy enough for them to fill without c...

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