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- Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:14 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 703
- Views: 43613
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Races Verstappen has lost in the ground effect era Australia 2024 - car failure Singapore 2023 - car nowhere near quick enough Baku 2023 - leading until the safety car gave Perez a free pit stop Jeddah 2023 - quickest in Q1 by half a second but car fails in Q2 Brazil 2022 - car not quick enough as ...
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:10 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 703
- Views: 43613
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
So the same as Hamilton in 2019 and 2020? Verstappen has had a dominant car since Belgium 2022. That's 34 races. Verstappen has won 28 of them. He's failed to win just 6 GPs. Hamilton had a two year run with a dominant car and a teammate he could easily beat. He won 22 races out of 37. He'd already...
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 703
- Views: 43613
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
The 2019 and 2020 seasons are comparable to the 2022 and 2023 seasons but for some reason you don't include all of the 2022 season, including all would make 10 races that he lost. I've no doubt that Verstappen did better but it's very much a black and white comparison you make, Red Bull operational...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:27 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
- Replies: 703
- Views: 43613
Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Unlike you JN23 I can't be bothered to read back through this whole thread to check if this has already been mentioned but one thing I will say that Hamilton's legacy will continue beyond his time in the seat, not sure I feel the same will ever be said about Verstappen. I agree that Hamilton is the...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:22 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 694
- Views: 25381
Re: Silly Season 2025
I am stunned how everyone seems to think to know about the details and clauses of contracts and who is contracted to whom etc. I don't know, for instance, whether there is a contract of any nature between RB and Verstappen senior. And also I don't know anything about the exit clauses in Verstappen ...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:27 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Racing could be just as unfair in the 80s just perhaps in different ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulV75GP2CiU If this sequence of events involving Senna and Rosberg happened today nobody would ever stop talking about it. There was just no social media back then to magnify controversies. A v...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Racing could be just as unfair in the 80s just perhaps in different ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulV75GP2CiU If this sequence of events involving Senna and Rosberg happened today nobody would ever stop talking about it. There was just no social media back then to magnify controversies. :th...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:51 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Racing could be just as unfair in the 80s just perhaps in different ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulV75GP2CiU If this sequence of events involving Senna and Rosberg happened today nobody would ever stop talking about it. There was just no social media back then to magnify controversies. A v...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:48 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Racing could be just as unfair in the 80s just perhaps in different ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulV75GP2CiU If this sequence of events involving Senna and Rosberg happened today nobody would ever stop talking about it. There was just no social media back then to magnify controversies. :th...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:45 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 694
- Views: 25381
Re: Silly Season 2025
I am stunned how everyone seems to think to know about the details and clauses of contracts and who is contracted to whom etc. I don't know, for instance, whether there is a contract of any nature between RB and Verstappen senior. And also I don't know anything about the exit clauses in Verstappen J...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:40 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Racing could be just as unfair in the 80s just perhaps in different ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulV75GP2CiU If this sequence of events involving Senna and Rosberg happened today nobody would ever stop talking about it. There was just no social media back then to magnify controversies. :th...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:01 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Clearly you think that drivers need to be predictable at all times and I disagree. There is a fine line between unpredictability and dangerous driving and I don't think Alonso crossed it in Australia. I have been following the sport since the late 70s and this is my opinion. The sport has become a ...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:43 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Yes, clearly you and I see the sport through a different lens. I like hard old school racing, is that a crime? I honestly think you like something that never existed. I have been around in the 1970s and 1980s, also as a racing driver in various lower-level categories, and drivers were not using unp...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:09 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
The more the dust settles the less sure I am the stewards made the correct decision. Especially listening to comments from people like Hill. Trouble is Alonso faking a throttle problem shows that even he thought he was guilty of something. Makes it hard to mount a strident defence. I think what Alo...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:06 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:05 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
I don't think that has anything to do with it. Senna introduced the hard-nosed style racing as in "yield or we crash" and the sport was a lot less safe then. The baton was picked up by Schumacher before increased safety measures were introduced. The cars are much safer today of course and nobody wa...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:39 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
As little as possible, yes. Only when a driver clearly oversteps the mark should the Stewards intervene. Which quite frankly is the way it was in the 80s and the 90s before the nannies took over. Drivers were behaving differently. Braking unpredictably as well as moving unpredictably under braking ...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:50 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Fair enough. It is not okay to cheat on the track but it is fine to cheat off it. Gotcha! As for 2016, I have no problem with what Hamilton did, but then again I think a lot of on track actions are fine. What happened in 2021 has not changed my views at all, we should let the drivers race and whate...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
That is strange, 2009 did not happen on the track? Well, you could have fooled me. As for 2016, of course, it is Hamilton. 2009 on track Hamilton did absolutely nothing wrong, it was only later in the strwards room it became an issue. I think you know the difference. 2016 if you want to put that on...
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
I think that brake testing and moving in braking zones should not be allowed. Fair enough, it is a valid stance in this discussion. I think unsettling another driver by lifting prematurely and putting down the throttle again should be part and parcel of a driver's arsenal. As for moving under braki...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:42 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 694
- Views: 25381
Re: Silly Season 2025
Marko doesn't have to sign for Mercedes for Verstappen to go there. clearly. at the moment there are all kinds of "reports" that Verstappen to Merc is a done deal. no way that has happened right now, for next year. how ugly do you think it gets if Jos tells RB his son wants out? I'm guessing it get...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:01 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 694
- Views: 25381
Re: Silly Season 2025
He can, Marko had the power to amend his contract with the consent of Verstappen, if Marko leaves then Verstappen can leave. marko just re upped. so he can’t sign with merc right now, as is being “reported” Marko doesn't have to sign for Mercedes for Verstappen to go there. clearly. at the moment t...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Im surprised parralells are being drawn between Hamilton and senna, schumi, verstappen. We learnt all we need to know about Lewis sportsmanship and whether or not he'd "cheat" to win during the last lap restart in 2021. He could have turned in on Max during the initial pass and then left his nose i...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:15 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Im surprised parralells are being drawn between Hamilton and senna, schumi, verstappen. We learnt all we need to know about Lewis sportsmanship and whether or not he'd "cheat" to win during the last lap restart in 2021. He could have turned in on Max during the initial pass and then left his nose i...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:48 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Im surprised parralells are being drawn between Hamilton and senna, schumi, verstappen. We learnt all we need to know about Lewis sportsmanship and whether or not he'd "cheat" to win during the last lap restart in 2021. He could have turned in on Max during the initial pass and then left his nose i...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:51 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
So how has the stewarding become political then in your view? Which decisions of the Stewards cannot be considered impartial but political in nature? There must be heaps of examples for you to take such a line without referring to a specific driver. Well, we recently learnt that the FIA president h...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:57 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Tell me that this is not targeted at Verstappen. “Something tells me, however, that Alonso wouldn't have raced as he did yesterday if stewards hadn't handed out free passes for political reasons in the past.” No, it is targeted at bad and political stewarding in the past. Remember when Alonso delib...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:34 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
It was clear I wasn’t talking about you personally. But perhaps it was not clear enough to you. Then the sense of your post remains a mystery. :lol: Maybe, you shouldn't answer to my post when you don't address my reasoning in any understandable way. Who is "us" and who is "them"? Why do you think ...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:39 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Before it was Alonso and now it is Verstappen. It is not at all hard to see. Alonso was the villain for me? :lol: :lol: :lol: Next you call me a Vettel fan. You have no clue, really. But apparently you have a problem with consistent and measured reasoning. ;) It was clear I wasn’t talking about you...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:38 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
I like it how everything here gets framed in an us and them narrative. It is quite clear who you think the villain is. They should have punished him more! Who do you think is "us" and who is "them" here? Who do I think is the villain, according to your opinion, given that I want three different dri...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:26 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
From the FIA report . . . "This season, the FIA Formula 1 penalty guidelines, including for this breach have been reset and increased to a baseline of a 10s penalty." Can't really compare penalties this year to those in the (recent) past as the guidelines have been changed. Verstappen's transgressi...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:23 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
- Replies: 244
- Views: 37133
Re: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
No, I think his results would be worse. Russell is now outperforming Hamilton and that cannot be a good sign. If the car was far better perhaps Hamilton wouldn't be wasting Friday's on extreme set ups even then in the 2 races finished Hamilton was just 3 seconds and then 7 seconds behind Russell, t...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:17 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: PF1 Forum teammate wars vote: Australia 2024
- Replies: 19
- Views: 709
Re: PF1 Forum teammate wars vote: Australia 2024
So, Magnussen beats Hülkenberg in qualifying but falls behind him in the race because Hülkenberg pitted under VSC. Magnussen goes on to finish one place behind him. But Hülkenberg easily wins the TMW - okay ... ? I think that's probably a case of people not knowing that happened. :thumbup: ... and ...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:56 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 694
- Views: 25381
Re: Silly Season 2025
Looking at the ages posted by DOLO... The day Antonelli was born, Alonso was driving in the Friday free practice of the 2006 Turkish GP, which was the 14th race of the 18 race season where Alonso claimed his second WDC. As much as I like Alonso, I do think it is high time for him to retire. Obvious...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:51 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
- Replies: 244
- Views: 37133
Re: The Official Carlos Sainz Jr. Thread
I said because of his age probably not, beyond that I don't really have a reference point. OK so you agree he's probably declined then. So why are you arguing against people saying exactly that? I would argue about the level of decline based on just 3 races, let's face it if Hamilton was beating Ru...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:25 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 694
- Views: 25381
Re: Silly Season 2025
As much as I like Alonso, I do think it is high time for him to retire.
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:34 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Silly Season 2025
- Replies: 694
- Views: 25381
Re: Silly Season 2025
Come on then, let's have your predictions for 2025 Alpine: ? & ? Aston Martin: Stroll & ? Ferrari: Hamilton & Leclerc HAAS: ? & ? Mercedes: Russell & ? McLaren: Norris & Piastri Red Bull: Verstappen & ? Stake.Kick.Sauber WhatThreeWords F1: ? & ? Visa Cash Ap.. I'm sorry I just can't do it bring bac...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:53 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: PF1 Forum teammate wars vote: Australia 2024
- Replies: 19
- Views: 709
Re: PF1 Forum teammate wars vote: Australia 2024
Declaring a driver that didn't participate in the race winner against his team mate is making a mockery of this thread. These votes of sympathy will affect and thereby devalue the accumulated results of this thread throughout the season. I therefore suggest that Sargeant be removed as a voting poss...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:52 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: PF1 Forum teammate wars vote: Australia 2024
- Replies: 19
- Views: 709
Re: PF1 Forum teammate wars vote: Australia 2024
So, Magnussen beats Hülkenberg in qualifying but falls behind him in the race because Hülkenberg pitted under VSC. Magnussen goes on to finish one place behind him. But Hülkenberg easily wins the TMW - okay ... ?
- Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:31 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 488
- Views: 8648
Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Brake test or whatever, its poor from a pro driver in that scenario to panic at the helm and go off..he wasnt that close In other news, alonso gets twice the penalty that max got for jeddah 2021, a far more obvious amd dangerous move. Alonso did similar in defense on hamilton hungary 2021 turn 1 ex...