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flyboy10

Looking at Bottas reaction time it was a jump start. Now the reaction time from the lights going out to dumping the clutch is 0.201 from the FIA official timing, every driver has a 0.2 reaction time or more, before dumping the clutch, it's physically and mentally impossible for Bottas to have done ...

flyboy10

Two questions: 1. Why is there a tolerance at all? The only reason would be if they don't trust the accuracy of the instrumentation, but in this case it was easily corroborated by video evidence, and a lot of people were able to pick it out with the naked eye. So there is clearly no reason for a to...

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What I found interesting and surprising in equal measure was that Vettel, Ricciardo and I all 'sensed' that Bottas had started before the lights went out in real time (I shouted out loud at the TV and my girlfriend that Bottas had made a false start) and that we were right even though it was such a ...

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I saw this comment on Facebook. Can anyone verify if it's true? "The jump start is determined by a sensor that has a 140mm margin of error which Bottas was within. It's not a jump start even if his wheels were turning before the lights went out." 140mm? Isn't that nearly six inches? Seems way too m...

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Did he release the brake a fraction earlier than pressing on the throttle? He moved a little owing to the gradient of the straight? Wouldn't that be irrelevant? If not then drivers could release their brakes early and coast downhill until the lights are off. Isn't the start uphill at the Red Bull R...

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If the method of deciding whether a jump start has happened is to take data from sensors in the track, then the stewards can't decide that they'd prefer to make the decision based on visual analysis of video recordings. There may have been some reason why the equipment failed to record an actual jum...

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Blake wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:
flyboy10 wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:What horrible looking trophies.
Any idea what they're made of?
Looks to be the cheapest material the FIA could find.
Personally I rather like them and as a driver it would be a nice change on the trophy shelf.

Also... is it the FIA that does the trophies or the track.

The sponsor.

flyboy10

TheGiantHogweed wrote:Good reaction from Bottas. He doesn't want to do anything as revolting as the others

Only took him 0.09 seconds to move after being offered a shoey

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Herb Tarlik wrote:What horrible looking trophies.

Any idea what they're made of?

flyboy10

One lap of mild excitement there. Not a great race otherwise.

flyboy10

Yes, anything below 0.2 is in the extreme range. Particularly in a situation where you cannot pull the trigger too early without big repercussions. Bottas got a perfect start here, but there was a bit of luck involved here, I think. Don't forget, track athletes are reacting to an auditory signal. M...

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Human reaction time is 0.1s, Bottas was 0.2s so he's fine, meanwhile Hamilton gets too close to the car in front and his brakes start to overheat, marvelous. Or 0.19 as tested at the Beijing Olympics according to a viewer who texted Martin Brundle. Yes, anything below 0.2 is in the extreme range. P...

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Human reaction time is 0.1s, Bottas was 0.2s so he's fine, meanwhile Hamilton gets too close to the car in front and his brakes start to overheat, marvelous. Or 0.19 as tested at the Beijing Olympics according to a viewer who texted Martin Brundle. Yes, anything below 0.2 is in the extreme range. P...

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Human reaction time is 0.1s, Bottas was 0.2s so he's fine, meanwhile Hamilton gets too close to the car in front and his brakes start to overheat, marvelous. Or 0.19 as tested at the Beijing Olympics according to a viewer who texted Martin Brundle. The default time for sprinters is 0.1s. Is that pu...

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Herb Tarlik wrote:
IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Bottas behind Raikkonen! I hope he helps Vettel now.
Hamilton was tarred and feathered in a previous race for suggesting that Bottas help him the way as you suggest.

Depends if the team or the driver is asking for it.

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pokerman wrote:Human reaction time is 0.1s, Bottas was 0.2s so he's fine, meanwhile Hamilton gets too close to the car in front and his brakes start to overheat, marvelous.

Or 0.19 as tested at the Beijing Olympics according to a viewer who texted Martin Brundle.

flyboy10

Herb Tarlik wrote:
SDLRob wrote:Looks like the FOM bleep machine is broken....

Is that the ****OM bleep machine.

flyboy10

Surely you shouldn't be penalised for being lucky enough to anticipate the lights anyway? It's a huge risk in doing so. If you start moving and the lights are out then you're good. If they're still on ... you get a penalty. Depends if the commentators are right about the reaction time interpretatio...

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Brundle still thinks Hamilton's in a McLaren. Seriously, he's starting to lose it.

flyboy10

They tend to not announce non-jump-starts but this was announced by race control as being noted. They should be announcing a penalty or no action by now.

flyboy10

I thought he jumped it and said so watching it live. I'm a Bottas fan so I hope he didn't. On the replay, it just looked like a perfect start. Fingers crossed. I can't believe that the FIA will call that a jumped start. If it is, it's micro seconds and so no real advantage. It's black or white with...

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I thought he jumped it and said so watching it live. I'm a Bottas fan so I hope he didn't. On the replay, it just looked like a perfect start. Fingers crossed. I can't believe that the FIA will call that a jumped start. If it is, it's micro seconds and so no real advantage. It's black or white with...

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I thought he jumped it and said so watching it live. I'm a Bottas fan so I hope he didn't. On the replay, it just looked like a perfect start. Fingers crossed.

flyboy10

I think it was fair. On the one hand, Vettel did a stupid thing, but the more I see the clip the less convinced I am that he actually intended to hit Hamilton. He didn't gain any advantage from it, so the penalty was purely a bad conduct notice, not a racing one, if that makes sense. Schumacher did...

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This was kind of on a par with the Monaco GP of 1982 but without the farce of nobody being able to hold on to the lead. Lots of incidents, an unexpected winner, some real heart-in-mouth moments, a bit of evil skulduggery and a new kid on the podium. Hard not to give it a ten but I think I've seen be...

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Any ideas why Vettel's stop took 12 seconds?

flyboy10

Does anyone know how Vettel got ahead of Hamilton after their respective pit stops for the penalty and the headrest? I timed both stops and Hamilton's headrest took just over 9 seconds to refit from wheels stopped to wheels started. One would think that nearly a second less of a stop for Hamilton wo...

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Maybe there needs to be a rule about contact under yellow flags and SC situations. There's absolutely no reason why any car should make contact with another while the race is in a neutralised state under SC, VSC, waved double yellows or in any yellow flagged zone of the circuit. It's a bit like the ...

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You've asked was the penalty appropriate and I have to say that it wasn't - on the gounds that it was given for the wrong offence. He should have been give the penalty commensurate with overtaking under the safety car. The other thing that he should have got was a reprimand and/or points on his lice...

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Providing a source for the stewards investigation that showed Hamilton did not brake test Vettel: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-hamilton-vettel-baku-brake-testing-923425/ So I guess it was just an illusion that Lewis slowed down after the turn. I have watch the incident several times and I ...

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I don't want to be drawn on the limited number of options you've included as they are all about the "contact" and not about the "action". Nobody, not even a steward, has as much as mentioned the deliberate (or otherwise) act of Vettel pulling out from behind and going side by side with Hamilton (bef...

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Providing a source for the stewards investigation that showed Hamilton did not brake test Vettel: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-hamilton-vettel-baku-brake-testing-923425/ The BBC also have those lines in an article too now, still Benson mind http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/40400301 Didn...

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The thing I found strange was that Hamilton seemed to be saying the penalty for Vettel needed to be more because he effectively wasn't penalised at all in comparison to Hamilton because the 10 seconds that he got didn't put him behind Hamilton. Surely, he's completely forgetting to factor in what t...

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The thing I found strange was that Hamilton seemed to be saying the penalty for Vettel needed to be more because he effectively wasn't penalised at all in comparison to Hamilton because the 10 seconds that he got didn't put him behind Hamilton. Surely, he's completely forgetting to factor in what th...

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I think Hamilton called it right, why do they need a safety car restart, have a VSC restart so the cars can get up to speed and warm the tyres rather than what happened today. I thought Hamilton was calling for a standing start. Do they have them any more after red flags? If not, why not? I can und...

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How far behind the safety car was Hamilton on lap 19 when the SC lights were still on?

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I thought it would be good to have a space to discuss the regulations around how safety car restarts are suppose to be conducted and whether there is any need for the regulations to give any clearer or different instructions to the drivers, particularly the lead driver, when the safety car lights go...

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The headrest thing, I haven't seen all angles but it looked back in place during the lap before he pitted to replace it. I've seen drivers going round lap after lap with all kinds of bits and pieces hanging off the car. Why was Hamilton forced to pit? Because it's a safety thing to protect the driv...

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The headrest thing, I haven't seen all angles but it looked back in place during the lap before he pitted to replace it. I've seen drivers going round lap after lap with all kinds of bits and pieces hanging off the car. Why was Hamilton forced to pit? Because it's a safety thing to protect the driv...

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That headrest could cost Hamilton the title. The racing gods act in mysterious ways gifting Vettel an extended WDC lead. That would only be true if he makes no mistakes between now and the end of the season and still loses. Otherwise it will be the next mistake he makes that costs him the champions...

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