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Greenman

BMWSauber84 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:07 pm
Official now. Vettel disqualified.

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Ridiculous

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Greenman

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NOTHING in the regs to extend the Red Flag period to allow further repairs to cars - again, the Stewards seem to have invented a new regulation.

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Greenman

. So, there has been plenty of time for people to look up the regs, has anyone found a regulation that allows the stewards to extend the red flag period to allow car repairs, as opposed for essential safety works on track ? Strange how everyone is o.k. with the stewards making up new regulations on...

Greenman

. So, there has been plenty of time for people to look up the regs, has anyone found a regulation that allows the stewards to extend the red flag period to allow car repairs, as opposed for essential safety works on track ? Strange how everyone is o.k. with the stewards making up new regulations on...

Greenman

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Vettel's communication was more ambiguous, but I thought ALL communication was banned on the first, positioning, lap ?

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Greenman

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How can they "punish" the people told to box ?

Add 23 to 27 seconds to their times ?

It's not right after the race has finished.

The stewards should have picked this up immediately, now is too late.

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Greenman

F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:40 pm

JN23 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:37 pm
Is the Ocon formation lap radio thing true? It's not being reported anywhere and the summons for Ocon reference post-race procedures.
Just reading on the autosport forum and looks true, also looks true for Vettel aswell.

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I really wouldn't like that !

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Greenman

Plenty of time for you too, Greenman. What have you come up with? . I've looked, and can't find anything - hence the question. What about you ? Are you happy with stewards making up regulations in the middle of a race ? . Are there any regulations that say the restart must occur as soon as the trac...

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Ocon and vettel will probably get a penalty, then hamilton will take the race win! :D :lol: Hamilton winning his hundredth grand prix because Vettel wore a rainbow t shirt and Ocon parked at the end of the pitlane would perhaps be the only way the race could get crazier. . Please God NO ! .

Greenman

Plenty of time for you too, Greenman. What have you come up with? . I've looked, and can't find anything - hence the question. What about you ? Are you happy with stewards making up regulations in the middle of a race ? . Are there any regulations that say the restart must occur as soon as the trac...

Greenman

. So, there has been plenty of time for people to look up the regs, has anyone found a regulation that allows the stewards to extend the red flag period to allow car repairs, as opposed for essential safety works on track ? Strange how everyone is o.k. with the stewards making up new regulations on...

Greenman

. So, there has been plenty of time for people to look up the regs, has anyone found a regulation that allows the stewards to extend the red flag period to allow car repairs, as opposed for essential safety works on track ? Strange how everyone is o.k. with the stewards making up new regulations on...

Greenman

. So, there has been plenty of time for people to look up the regs, has anyone found a regulation that allows the stewards to extend the red flag period to allow car repairs, as opposed for essential safety works on track ? Strange how everyone is o.k. with the stewards making up new regulations on ...

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. Since when has a Red Flag been extended to allow car repair time ? Lots of instances when delays for reinstating crash barriers, etc..., but cars ? . I have no issue with it. 1, we want lots of cars in the race, and 2, giving teams time to ensure cars are safe, rather than sending them out withou...

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Since when has a Red Flag been extended to allow car repair time ?

Lots of instances when delays for reinstating crash barriers, etc..., but cars ?

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Greenman

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Why still a Red Flag ?

Everything sorted, but still 15 minutes to wait !

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Greenman

Hamilton is the villain of the piece now in the eyes of most but at least we are seeing some fight from him. Its fascinating to see how he will proceed tactically now he seems to have shed his posterboy image to try and rattle Verstappen. . Only in your eyes. Most people on here SEEM to think the c...

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UnlikeUday wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:32 pm
The move in question.........

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Excellent video, showing Verstappen had plenty of opportunity/space to overtake.

Nothing stopping him, other than his own choices.

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Greenman

. Wow ! Has some of the posters above forgotten Horner/Verstappen getting (artificially) upset with the few fans who cheered when Verstappen crashed (ignoring the much larger cheers when they got him out of the car). I think this is a result of the (unjustified) Red Bull whinges/PR campaign, trying ...

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Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:36 pm

That's a very Daily Mail take on things. .........

Oh dear the personal attacks start.

I cannot help it if Red Bull supporters make silly statements.

( And Daily Mail readers/take on things are notorious for being anti-BAME people. )

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. The Hamilton haters are making up all sorts of excuses for Verstappen not just going faster ! Somehow, it's always Hamilton's fault that Verstappen fails to think and do the obvious thing, never Verstappen's. Verstappen can't overtake on a corner because three-plus car widths are not enough ! As e...

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Covalent wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:21 pm
Dirty tricks by Hamilton. Effectively no better than parking it in Monaco.

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What did Hamilton do wrong ? Nothing stopping Verstappen from overtaking.

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Greenman

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To the Hamilton haters, why didn't the Red Bulls just overtake Hamilton ?

Nothing stopping them.

IF they were so wedded to getting a tow off a car they should either have towed each other in the two runs, or followed another team.

Why should Hamilton help Red Bull ?

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I'm surprised that the Forum hasn't put a black border around each web page to commemorate the event, and renamed the forum the Verstappen crash memorial F1 and Motorsport Forum !

Horner, Marco and Verstappen should be proposed for sainthood.

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Greenman

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Red Bull's gamesmanship has been going on since before the stewards' decision - they are making fools of themselves and of the sport. The FIA should have a (very loud) "quiet word" with them.

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. Yet more of Red Bull's whinge/PR campaign. "... Marko claimed that Red Bull’s “completely different opinion” would be “proven with footage”, adding: “The crux of the matter is that we bring new evidence, new facts. But I can't reveal these details.” ..." Why can't Red Bull reveal the details ? Yet...

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[quote="F1 MERCENARY] ...... At what point does the FIA and Race Control intervene and tell Max you have to quit the intimidation factor because it's going to result in someone seriously injured. This time it was him, next time maybe it's someone else, but regardless, there shouldn't be a next time ...

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It is noticeable that some of the biggest "Hamilton Haters" on this site are (obviously by pure coincidence !) the ones posting ridiculous pro-Verstappen claims.

This thread is toxic.

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Greenman

. The crash reminded me of a typical Vettel manoeuvre, charge up the inside straight at the apex at a speed which would allow the car to take the corner, but only by blocking the car on the outside, and drifting out taking most of the width of the track to go around the corner. Vettel did this count...

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CRei1n8Fhko . I didn't like Red Bulls dirty PR campaign just after the incident, particularly Horner's rants. Now Max tweets that, basically, the whole crowd/audience should go into mourning every time he is shunted off as he has shunted off many others ! Red Bull seem to want to show everyone how ...

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Bacus wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:24 pm
The Euro 2020 and the behaving here really changed my mind on (some) british sport fans.

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You didn't like the way they cheered when Verstappen got out of his car ?

Strange.

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Greenman

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I didn't like all the moaning from Horner/Red Bull just after the accident - more like a dirty PR campaign than fair comment. Horner is on Channel 4 now, wingeing more the same.

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Greenman

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Well I think that the Ferrari engineers deserve great praise, they've taken an unreliable Ferrari and transformed it into a competitive car, a real contender.

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Greenman

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Vettel went over the white line at the first corner, and in line with the unofficial rule didn't get penalised.

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The "sprint" was totally underwhelming.

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The silly computer game graphics were annoying too. Very child-like in appearance. I don't have that much of a problem with the graphics used to identify the car ahead for the casual viewer (if used judiciously). Otherwise, my eyes would be bouncing around the screen hoping to inform me of the situ...

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BBC Sports article - views ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57842205

Mod Edit - article removed, please view article at the original source by clicking on the link.

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Greenman

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I'd be interested to see the way that the nose is removed, all looks rather cramped between front wing and wheels.

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Greenman

Pointless vote - you can't vote for Mercedes having the better aerodynamics every year (which rather obviously is the answer).

Why make a poll where the correct answer is impossible ?

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Again I will point out the hypocrisy. When Hamilton won in the obviously faster car, leading from begining to end people would say "what had he done to claim "driver of the day" ?

Now that Verstappen does the same, so many vote for him.

I don't mind genuine opinions, I object to hypocrisy.

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