Beat me to itmikeyg123 wrote:Nope Romain Grosjeandiablof1 wrote:For sure Hulk is the only driver since Hamilton who has won all titles pre-f1.
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- Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:29 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
- Replies: 57
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Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
- Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:28 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
- Replies: 57
- Views: 12641
Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
No Grosjean has done it as welldiablof1 wrote:For sure Hulk is the only driver since Hamilton who has won all titles pre-f1.
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:14 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
- Replies: 61
- Views: 12396
Re: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
If someone were to sit down with Nigel and write a screenplay, what an amazing story that would be, though I suspect there would be a bit of Prost bashing as well. It theory it would. But it is well known Mansell has the charisma of a brick. A stand-up comedian over in England called Jasper Carrot ...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
- Replies: 57
- Views: 12641
Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
I think the whole team is better off with Mark as he's been there forever and is part of the machine. Make no mistake, its the machine that is responsible for the success, not one driver. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, ya know? But I don't think the young Germans would have any trouble on a teamm...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:06 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 5 seasons time...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 9672
Re: 5 seasons time...
Well he was doing ok up to mid season, was Eddie tipping him for a top drive at seasons end? He certainly expressed surprise in the end of year review that Di Resta was overlooked during all the big driver changes. I think many fans of the sport have a very blinkered view of things, if a driver's n...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:36 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: But really, How good is Vettel?
- Replies: 159
- Views: 28355
Re: But really, How good is Vettel?
Seb is a 3X WDC, so has proven himself to be a v good driver. Possibly one of the best ever, only time will tell. Meanwhile, the other current 'top' generation of drivers (Alonso/Lewis/Kimi) have to prove that they are his equal - as they have less WDCs to their name. Drivers' fans can come up with...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:35 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
- Replies: 57
- Views: 12641
Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
Hang on! Hulkenberg hasnt won a race yet, he has had an oppurtunity and blown it. Vettel had a chance to win at Monza 08 and took it. You cant count your chickens before they hatch. Being a promising midfielder dosnt mean you are already champion. You could argue that Vettel didn't have a SC so the...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:34 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
- Replies: 57
- Views: 12641
Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
I think the whole team is better off with Mark as he's been there forever and is part of the machine. Make no mistake, its the machine that is responsible for the success, not one driver. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, ya know? But I don't think the young Germans would have any trouble on a teamm...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:30 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
- Replies: 57
- Views: 12641
Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
I guess you have not been watching current performances then?SilverstoneRegular wrote:Vettel would most probably batter Hulk on current performances
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:28 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 5 seasons time...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 9672
Re: 5 seasons time...
F1 2017 Vettel (Ferrari) (5 times WDC) Hulkenberg (Red Bull) Di Resta (Merc) 3-time champion Alonso will have retired, 2-time champ Lewis will be racing in America, Kimi rallying. I see di Resta as struggling to keep his F1 seat even for next year I think people have been overly critical of him, an...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:22 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2013 Championship Challengers
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7559
Re: 2013 Championship Challengers
2013 title contenders prediction: Vettel: because he'll likely have the best car yet again unless Newey has slipped up. Alonso: because he's the best driver at the moment. Button: if McLaren make a great car that suits him. Hamilton: not unless Mercedes produce something considerably better than 20...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2013 Championship Challengers
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7559
Re: 2013 Championship Challengers
Vettel has to be the favourite, you can't discount Alonso even though Ferrari will probably have an inferior car again , then there is McLaren who seem to be on the same level as Red Bull now so that gives Button a sniff of it, Perez is an unknown at present. Not so sure about that. They've got 2 n...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:59 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: First Formula E team signed up
- Replies: 42
- Views: 7659
Re: First Formula E team signed up
I would love to see some f1 teams get involved McLaren said they might, they can use it as a testing ground for academy drivers honing racecraft in a competitive environment more time developing than just chucking them in. Yeah it could be a pretty good way of getting more tallent into training pro...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
- Replies: 61
- Views: 12396
Re: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
I'm not bashing on the guy but just as Senna's legend grew to almost god-like heights thanks to his premature death, so too has that of Gilles Villeneuve. But that is indeed human nature. Once again, a valid comment I fully agree with. People are funny, and sometimes death at a certain time adds an...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:20 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
- Replies: 61
- Views: 12396
Re: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
I can't comment on Earnhardt because i have no interest in NASCAR, however Jim Clark was considered to be the best and didn't need to die in order to gain adulation But that's my point. A driver on top of his form, and definitely one of the top in the grid loses his life through tragedy. That drive...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:12 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2013 Championship Challengers
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7559
Re: 2013 Championship Challengers
Vettel has to be the favourite, you can't discount Alonso even though Ferrari will probably have an inferior car again, then there is McLaren who seem to be on the same level as Red Bull now so that gives Button a sniff of it, Perez is an unknown at present.
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:04 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Ron Interviewed by the CBI
- Replies: 223
- Views: 32925
Re: Ron Interviewed by the CBI
We had to accept that we didn’t agree terms with Lewis’s management, therefore Lewis and his management team have decided to go elsewhere That first bit is very intriguing ;) Well i think the main issue regarding his management were Hamilton's personal sponsorship rights which were basically owned ...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:29 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 5 seasons time...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 9672
Re: 5 seasons time...
F1 2017 Vettel (Ferrari) (5 times WDC) Hulkenberg (Red Bull) Di Resta (Merc) 3-time champion Alonso will have retired, 2-time champ Lewis will be racing in America, Kimi rallying. I see di Resta as struggling to keep his F1 seat even for next year I think people have been overly critical of him, an...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:25 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Will Force India again take time to decide its Lineup?
- Replies: 488
- Views: 103103
Re: Why does Force India always take time to decide its Line
Does anyone wonder if the hold up could be because they're trying to decide if they're keeping Di Resta or not? They might be thinking Sutil and someone else could be more worthwhile to them? Maybe Ferrari are putting pressure on Force India to take Bianchi, Ferrari engines in 2014? The prospect of...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:07 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 5 seasons time...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 9672
Re: 5 seasons time...
I see di Resta as struggling to keep his F1 seat even for next yearAdaemus wrote:F1 2017
Vettel (Ferrari) (5 times WDC)
Hulkenberg (Red Bull)
Di Resta (Merc)
3-time champion Alonso will have retired, 2-time champ Lewis will be racing in America, Kimi rallying.
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 5 seasons time...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 9672
Re: 5 seasons time...
I'd like to see Frijns mixing it up with the big guys. He has won 3 back-to-back feeder series titles (F BMW, FR2.0, FR3.5) which is no small feat and therefore he should really get a quality drive in 2014. Well he's in F1 already as the Sauber test driver, many believe Hulkenberg will be moving to...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:56 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 5 seasons time...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 9672
Re: 5 seasons time...
Well i don't see Vettel going anywhere and he's a more proven driver than those two, plus Hamilton will still be aroundSutton wrote:...wee prediction.
the two title contenders to be...
Perez (McLaren)
Hulkenberg (Ferrari)
yes?
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:45 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: First Formula E team signed up
- Replies: 42
- Views: 7659
Re: First Formula E team signed up
It looked quite fast but sounded horrible, but i guess that might be the future?
- Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:48 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Official 2013 winter testing thread
- Replies: 1572
- Views: 260192
Re: Official 2013 winter testing thread
Just friggin get rid of DRS altogether and let the drivers overtake normally. I guess you forget things over time but i do remember a period of time when seeing an overtake was a rare experience, who remembers the Trulli train? Qualify the car further up the grid then it should be then in the race ...
- Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:56 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Official 2013 winter testing thread
- Replies: 1572
- Views: 260192
Re: Official 2013 winter testing thread
Just friggin get rid of DRS altogether and let the drivers overtake normally. I guess you forget things over time but i do remember a period of time when seeing an overtake was a rare experience, who remembers the Trulli train? Qualify the car further up the grid then it should be then in the race ...
- Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:40 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who will cause the first crash of 2013?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 8911
Re: Who will cause the first crash of 2013?
Three most llikely Grosjean, Maldonado and Perez Although, as others have stated, the rookies are at least equally as likely. How about Maldonado into his teammate Bottas (or vice versa)? That could be true but not you can't tar them all with the same brush, i don't recall many crashes for Pic last...
- Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:09 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who will cause the first crash of 2013?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 8911
Re: Who will cause the first crash of 2013?
Three most llikely Grosjean, Maldonado and Perez
- Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:06 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Marko hits back at Vettel critics - PF1
- Replies: 61
- Views: 11267
Re: Marko hits back at Vettel critics - PF1
They were more impatient than clumsy. Clumsy is failing to execute, impatience is forcing what won't work. He's been making impatient moves since FBMW. Well either clumsy or impatient this is part of his game that he has improved a lot to the point where he can no longer be accused as someone who c...
- Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:00 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
- Replies: 61
- Views: 12396
Re: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
I'm not bashing on the guy but just as Senna's legend grew to almost god-like heights thanks to his premature death, so too has that of Gilles Villeneuve. But that is indeed human nature. Once again, a valid comment I fully agree with. People are funny, and sometimes death at a certain time adds an...
- Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:57 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
- Replies: 61
- Views: 12396
Re: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
With respect I don't see what was so great about him. Some of his actions were dangerous (as mentioned above) and had he not died at Zolder he certainly wouldn't be held in such high regard as he is. Still love watching his battle with Arnoux though. I agree, had Senna not died at Imola he probably...
- Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
- Replies: 61
- Views: 12396
Re: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
With respect I don't see what was so great about him. Some of his actions were dangerous (as mentioned above) and had he not died at Zolder he certainly wouldn't be held in such high regard as he is. Still love watching his battle with Arnoux though. This seems to run along the same lines as Senna ...
- Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:43 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Marko hits back at Vettel critics - PF1
- Replies: 61
- Views: 11267
Re: Marko hits back at Vettel critics - PF1
I think overtaking is one aspect of his driving that he's definitely improved during his time in F1, in the early years some of his attempts were somewhat clumsy resulting in missing pieces of bodywork
- Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:56 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Marko Eyes Hulkenberg For 2014 Red Bull Seat
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1376
Re: Marko Eyes Hulkenberg For 2014 Red Bull Seat
This was posted in another thread, the accuracy of the article has to come into question when it says that Webber was only given a 1 year contract when it has been in fact the preference of Webber these past few years to only sign 1 year contracts with Red Bull
- Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:28 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Marko hits back at Vettel critics - PF1
- Replies: 61
- Views: 11267
Re: Marko hits back at Vettel critics - PF1
I'm not sure why he uses Brazil as an example of Vettel's ability to pass either, almost everyone let him through! Oh come on, stop exaggerating. Even apart from the few that let him by instead of racing him (because most of them did), it was still an immense return through the field in conditions ...
- Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:26 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The empty spots...
- Replies: 163
- Views: 35762
Re: The empty spots...
I think the changes they made in Engineering had more to do with the 2012 car's success than anything else. Helped by the sponsors the drivers brought to the team? That would mainly impact this year. By the time drivers have been confirmed, the car is already very much in development. Williams had ...
- Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:04 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Marko hits back at Vettel critics - PF1
- Replies: 61
- Views: 11267
Re: Marko hits back at Vettel critics - PF1
I've read the article again, i don't see the word phenomenonashley313 wrote:Not any different than "old" Marko...there's always a hard truth in what he says.
I was expecting to see feathers ruffled about his "phenomenon" comment. I think its YOU guys that are becoming more reasonable, not Dr. Marko
- Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:55 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The empty spots...
- Replies: 163
- Views: 35762
Re: The empty spots...
So Williams got lucky or they knew what they had with Maldonado after his rookie season so could afford to let go Barrichello? I think the changes they made in Engineering had more to do with the 2012 car's success than anything else. Helped by the sponsors the drivers brought to the team? That wou...
- Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:49 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Marko hits back at Vettel critics - PF1
- Replies: 61
- Views: 11267
Re: Marko hits back at Vettel critics - PF1
Vettel is the Marko meal ticket, he justifies his position so he'll twist everything in his way so he can pick up his fat pay-cheque from Dieter the liquid caffeine salesman. I can't believe some would actually fall for the biased nonsense he spouts, he was even accusing the FIA of race-fixing and ...
- Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:39 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
- Replies: 61
- Views: 12396
Re: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
With respect I don't see what was so great about him. Some of his actions were dangerous (as mentioned above) and had he not died at Zolder he certainly wouldn't be held in such high regard as he is. Still love watching his battle with Arnoux though. This seems to run along the same lines as Senna ...
- Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:54 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Ron Interviewed by the CBI
- Replies: 223
- Views: 32925
Re: Ron Interviewed by the CBI
What has McLaren won the last decade? IMO Lewis move is a risk, but he put his view on the bigger picture, if he is successfull with Mercedes it will be greater than anything else he ever achieved. He can help to make Mercedes a winning team, and make them to his team, where at McLaren the drivers ...