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davidheath461

penalty for Alonso - what BS.

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Prema wrote:Ouch... FA under investigation for his start.

surely a penalty coming.

But in the past, being ahead of your box the start never warranted a penalty.

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Alonso = amazing

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Rocky "Sebastian, 10 car lengths behind the safety car"

He still remembers Hungary 2010

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br3IX4jIIAA4DWQ.jpg that looks like Alonso. A jump start, but his getaway was actually quite bad. Kimi passed him into turn 1. Just watched it again. He parked a few metres in front of his box. For some reason that never seems to get punished (Webber did the same in Bahr...

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Clarky wrote:

that looks like Alonso. A jump start, but his getaway was actually quite bad. Kimi passed him into turn 1.

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Why is it necessary to fully fix a section of Armco which would rarely if ever be hit(this time perhaps the first)? Peoples lives are at risk. That section looks new, may have been hit recently, so can't leave it substandard I don't think lives are at risk from the partial damage to the Armco, I me...

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I haven't seen an on-board of the slight Hamilton/Vettel crash so was just going from seeing it live, I was just trying to balance out the argument! I hope (and think) it will just be classed as a racing incident :) It wasn't even under the investigation. They come in close wheel-to-wheel situation...

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phazblade wrote:
wire2004 wrote:
F1Oz wrote:Why is it necessary to fully fix a section of Armco which would rarely if ever be hit(this time perhaps the first)?
Peoples lives are at risk.
That section looks new, may have been hit recently, so can't leave it substandard

Exactly.

And people should remember how Kubica got injured in 2011.

davidheath461

Hopefully no damage to lewis car or sebs for that matter. Lewis needs to make quick work of the mclarens. Nico will be rocketing away Vettel should get a penalty for causing an avoidable collision. Which race are you watching? Vettel and Hamilton barely touched, they were both slightly out of shape...

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Hopefully no damage to lewis car or sebs for that matter. Lewis needs to make quick work of the mclarens. Nico will be rocketing away Vettel should get a penalty for causing an avoidable collision. Which race are you watching? Vettel and Hamilton barely touched, they were both slightly out of shape...

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The British crowd is one of the best in the world, applause for every driver regardless of which team they drive for. You mean apart from booing Vettel? That wasn't the Britsh crowds finest hour When did they boo Vettel? As far as i remember, they didn't boo him, but they did cheer when he retired ...

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w1Y! wrote:Hopefully no damage to lewis car or sebs for that matter. Lewis needs to make quick work of the mclarens. Nico will be rocketing away

Vettel should get a penalty for causing an avoidable collision.

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zaar wrote:
davidheath461 wrote:That was naughty from Vettel - trying to force Hamilton off the track.
What?

I said

"That was naughty from Vettel - trying to force Hamilton off the track."

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When a race s red-flagged in the first two laps, isn't the race null and void and they go back to the start positions? If they red-flag it further into the race, don't they go back to the positions two laps previous? those were the old rules that i was brought up on. Seems like they've changed thou...

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Rekonizakilla wrote:So did Alonso give Kimi the squeeze?

It must have been evil Alonso's fault.

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That was naughty from Vettel - trying to force Hamilton off the track.

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wire2004 wrote:When was the last time we've had a red flag on lap 1

2000 Monaco Grand Prix apparantly.

We've had much bigger start accidents (Spa 2012, Hockenheim 2003 come to my mind) which didn't require red flags.

davidheath461

terrible start by Vettel

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9-0 to Alonso

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Vettel's had the best car for the last few years. This year he has the 2nd best car. And for reason, the OP thinks he deserves better?

Most other F1 drivers would kill to have the cars that Vettel has had during his career.

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Clearly a team decision for DR not going out, as noted, all the problems he's had have come from team mistakes. Don't think pole was on but definitely top 4 How was it "clearly" a team decision? We often here messages like "your call to go out again or not". Nothing to lose by trying, as witnessed ...

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Ricciardo is very unlucky. The team told him not to go out.

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If anything it would be Alonso who should be demotivated - he's come close to titles in recent years and has constantly been promised a more competitive car, yet he's staring at another year with no title. I don't think there's anything to suggest that Vettel is demotivated. His problems seem to be ...

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They were. Schumacher still probably had enough left to win the 2007 and 2008 titles. But Schumacher was getting old so Ferrari would have had to replace him sooner or later. Problem is they chose the wrong driver - Alonso was a better fit, but Todt held a silly grudge against him. Brawn has always...

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Ferrari are on the right track, having sacked Domenicali. However, it will still take at least several years before they start producing a competitive car again. Can Alonso wait that long? I don't think so. He should try and get a seat at Mercedes or Red Bull. These are the only 2 teams to be at in...

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Can't wait to see whether Williams' performance was just a one-off. Expect Red Bull and Ferrari to be strong here. This is more of a downforce track, with fast corners and what have you. Red Bull will be strong, and if Ferrari's updates work, so will they. Edit: so Williams will have a fight on the...

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Covalent wrote:Micheal Schmidt (AMuS) reckons Vettel would have the exact same problems beating Webber this year.

I agree. No EBD + harder tyres would have been good for Webber.

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[...] I have respect for the talent of both MW and SV - I just have zero respect for the integrity of SV - who got lucky in both 2010 and 2012 and was had the best car and total team support for 2011 and 2013. That is, if SV had been in challenging cars in 2010 or 2012, I doubt he'd have got as clo...

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They were. Schumacher still probably had enough left to win the 2007 and 2008 titles. But Schumacher was getting old so Ferrari would have had to replace him sooner or later. Problem is they chose the wrong driver - Alonso was a better fit, but Todt held a silly grudge against him. Brawn has always ...

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Ferrari are on the right track, having sacked Domenicali. However, it will still take at least several years before they start producing a competitive car again. Can Alonso wait that long? I don't think so. He should try and get a seat at Mercedes or Red Bull. These are the only 2 teams to be at in...

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Alonso sends Kimi into retirement. Kimi fans will not like that! I resent that kind of talk TBH. Its still a tough situation for Kimi though. The main issue is the car. If it isn't competitive then it's all for nothing, both for him and Alonso. If the car is competitive the fight should be closer. ...

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Alonso is obviously a great driver but threads like these make people look like theyre clutching at straws. The Hamilton argument is a very weak one. Massa was obviously affected by his injury . Kimi partnership is less than half a season old. How? Give me some solid evidence explaining how "Massa ...

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Alonso sends Kimi into retirement.

Kimi fans will not like that!

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Ferrari are on the right track, having sacked Domenicali. However, it will still take at least several years before they start producing a competitive car again. Can Alonso wait that long? I don't think so. He should try and get a seat at Mercedes or Red Bull. These are the only 2 teams to be at in ...

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Yes i think they were wrong, and i think Schumacher could well have won the 07 and 08 titles had he stayed.

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Not a bit of it. One bad half of a season does not offset 4xWDC. If he's still not beating his teammate regularly this time next year then yes his reputation will always be tarnished. Yeah, he's the most successful driver on the grid by some margin, and that along with his reputation won't change b...

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Alonso drove better at the start, but Vettel drove better at the end. Actually Alonso drove better throughout, and that is reflected by the general consensus from fans/paddock experts/team principals that not only was Alonso the best driver in 2012, but that he put together one of the best seasons ...

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Not Alonso's fault that windtunnel correlation is off or engine is down on power and driveability.

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As to whether Vettel should go to Ferrari would they have him now that his brand has been damaged by Ricciardo ? Why don't they just promote Bianchi when Alonso and/or Raikkonen leave ? I think Ferrari would still be more than happy to take Vettel to race for them in 2015. The question is whether V...

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