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In theory, with extra points on offer, sprint races allow more unpredictability in the championship. However, Austria simply allowed Verstappen to eake out another point's lead on Leclerc, thus denting Leclerc's chance of a big gain in the race. The 8-7-6... points system discourages risk taking by ...

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Was it just me, or was 55 minutes much longer than was needed before the restart was allowed to happen? There was no barrier damage, and once it was clear Zhou was unharmed no reason that I could see for the extended delay. All the damaged cars were recovered, most of the drivers were then left twid...

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See https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-flexi-floor-exploit-revelations-a-shocker-says-mercedes/10332159/ Amazing. If 2mm was the limit, why haven't teams who flouted it been punished? Or did the FIA not realise the transgression until they started measuring floor movements for the porpoising probl...

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In what way does Patrese - a very experienced driver - outshine Hill, a Rookie? I think you've slightly missed my point. I think Hill didn't really seem an improvement on Patrese which is interesting as neither Patrese or Prost liked the active suspension cars. He wasn't supposed to be an improveme...

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Patrese got battered by Mansell in every year aside from qualifying in 1991 where Patrese edged him. The comparison to Patrese is extremely unflattering to Hill, IMO. Mansell/Patrese in 92 was: 108/56pts, 9/1 wins Prost/Hill in 93 was: 99/69 pts, 7/3 wins In what way does Patrese - a very experienc...

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On your broader point, Hill had an experience advantage in the 1992 active suspension cars having tested them throughout the year. Prost still beat him comfortably after a year out. Everyone seems to be forgetting that 93 was Hills first F1 season. In 92 his 8 outings during Brabham's F1 death-thro...

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The difficulty with this comparison is that we have no absolute benchmark for DeAngelis. Maybe 85 vs Senna is worth going into.. Over the season it was quite close, only 5pts and 1 win more to Senna, although he had more retirements.. DeAngelis was more consistent, but seldom a potential winner. Pod...

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Could we just drop the idea of it being an environmentally friendly sport. You have 20 cars driving 200 miles for no reason and fly everyone to different locations to do it. The tyres used aren't the issue. Of course F1 will never be a paragon of environmental friendliness, but it's about politics;...

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Just been reading that Piquet was 5ft 8ins, Mansell 5ft 11ins. Piquet was a slimmer build (can't find out his weight), so, similar to as with Prost, Mansell was probably carrying a weight handicap of 10-15kg, which was worth 3 - 4/10s of a second per lap.. (The general estimate I've read is that 10k...

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We're judging their achievements in the cockpit. Perhaps I need to rewrite my conclusion to this article! Which is what? You say 86 was nip and tuck. Fair enough. In 87 Mansell's golf cost him? What about his 4 DNFs to Piquet's 2; 2 of which were from the lead, and gifted Piquet more than the point...

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For me, it is not possible to take a restrospective view of Piquet without taking into consideration what a very, very unpleasant human being he was when racing and, by information in the public domain, remains. On the other hand, in the spirit of fairness, it is also not possible to take a restros...

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I think that a driver that gets beat by his teammates can be called a journeyman, Mansell got sacked by Lotus and the following year at Williams got beat by Rosberg, not many people gave him much of a chance against 2 time Champion Piquet who was seen as an elite driver. Fair play to Mansell he was...

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I have to doubt your pro-Piquet results, as you're clearly biassed against Mansell - (comments like 'journeyman' are un-called for). But I can't be bothered to look into it in more depth. I doubt your bias can be overturned. As I recall Mansell clearly out-raced Piquet and arguably deserved the tit...

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(comments like 'journeyman' are un-called for). But I can't be bothered to look into it in more depth. Journeyman was an accurate description of Mansell's career between 1980-1985. Mansell was undeniably a late bloomer. Always know you are in for high quality debate when people dismiss your argumen...

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I have to doubt your pro-Piquet results, as you're clearly biassed against Mansell - (comments like 'journeyman' are un-called for). But I can't be bothered to look into it in more depth. I doubt your bias can be overturned. As I recall Mansell clearly out-raced Piquet and arguably deserved the titl...

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No-one has mentioned Prost's reputation for losing his temper when the car or team organisation wasn't great. He parted with all of Renault, Mclaren and Ferrari on bad terms. How would he have handled Mansell in '91 had Nigel remained at Ferrari? Secondly: Mansell's extra 19kg weight is estimated to...

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As an alternative to active suspension, would it be easier and cheaper to eliminate porpoising (while not sacrificing ride height and downforce) by allowing flexible skirts? Then we're back to 1981, with cars producing so much underbody downforce they don't need wings at all. If a skirt malfunction...

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But active suspensions were once banned (though I guess that ground effect being banned and then brought back makes the return of active suspension possible). That said, I'm not sure an active suspension would be active enough and fast enough (and resistant) to counterbalance every move of a 800 kg...

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I mean, trust Horner to provide the cynical viewpoint. He's got a point in that he and his team would be whinging very loudly about this if they thought that they could gain a competitive advantage, and all the teams do play that game even if they don't take it to the level that Red Bull do. Howeve...

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tootsie323 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:50 am
Someone needs to join the Grumpy Old Men thread.

Already there! But as these were specifically 2022 related I thought they deserved threads of their own.

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Siao7 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:47 am
You have started two threads now, ranting in both of them. I hope Tuesday will be a better day for you!

Well spotted!

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I'd of thought an aero solution similar to DRS would be relatively simple to engineer, the problem is at it's worst at maximum speed, almost always obtained on straights where downforce (and it's associated induced drag) is at its highest and least needed. Change the floor regulations to allow a ve...

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So 2022 is dead. Verstappen will romp away to the title whilst rivals falter: Ferrari flatter to deceive yet again and Mercedes waste the year untying the aerodynamic knots they've got themselves into. In 2021 it looked like the age of one-team hegemony might finally be ending; but sadly, after 4 ye...

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"There are a total of 7 street circuits on the 2022 Formula 1 calendar. This includes the Gilles Villeneuve circuit in Canada, and both the purpose built tracks in Jeddah and Miami, along with the 'proper' street circuits of Monaco, Baku, Singapore and Australia." That's what Google said, and I assu...

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The one I'm most interested in is Prost v Senna 1989, but unfortunately the public doesn't have access to the information I really want to know: to what extent was Senna materially advantaged by McLaren/Honda, and to what extent was it all in Prost's head? I'm personally a believer the Senna was ad...

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I assumed the red flag was for debris rather than concerns over tyres, so fair enough if so. *they should still get rid of the standing start after a red flag rule though, that's entertainment over sport. They should get rid of SC. Always do red flag (maybe keep VSC for small incidents). Then do ro...

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Incredible. 1 race out of a 24 race calendar. Just 4% of the season. 1 race that asks something of a driver & a team that no other race asks and still every single year people want to drag out the torches & pitchforks. How sad. Monaco, along with Silverstone, Spa & Monza should be classed as legacy...

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Much of the criticism seems to centre on Ben Sulayem, the new FIA president. Maybe he needs to listen more to the teams. However I'm also reminded of the FISA/FoCA wars of 1980/81. When the teams (FoCA) led by one B.Ecclestone tried to take over F1 from the FIA's predecessor. Then the teams were sp...

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Much of the criticism seems to centre on Ben Sulayem, the new FIA president. Maybe he needs to listen more to the teams. However I'm also reminded of the FISA/FoCA wars of 1980/81. When the teams (FoCA) led by one B.Ecclestone tried to take over F1 from the FIA's predecessor. Then the teams were spl...

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Keep Monaco. It's not Monaco's fault that F1 can't even race on "normal" tracks without DRS. Blaming the Principality for the current formula's faults would be laughable if it weren't so sad. Also, I find the coverage as put out by RMC as good as that by the regular TV crews. I find it hard to unde...

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Liberty are apparently getting tired of the Monaco GP. Not just for the lack of a real race, but also the Automobile Club de Monaco's insistance on doing things like dictating track alteration, handling the TV coverage and sponsorship themselves, rather than letting Liberty bring in their season-lon...

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The start of a race is still the best few minutes of any sport in the world (barring penalties in a final i guess) - but the TV again focuses too much on the front when nothing might be happening. Interesting: my gripe these days is the reverse. Why are we watching a close battle for 14th place?! I...

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Curious how these cars perform - see if the nature of them makes Monaco more of a challenge. Agree with Harpo, we need to roll back the size of these cars to how they were 10-15yrs ago. Overtaking has been virtually impossible at Monaco for at least 30 years. Remember '92 when after a pitstop Manse...

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I watched the C4 race highlights via catch-up. I assume the footage was the same as that shown on TV. After an advert break about 20 laps into the race the coverage resumed, and the top order had changed, with no comment as to why. After a time I worked out that Verstappen and Russell (I think) must...

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No wonder Red Bull are thinking further to appeal against Aston Martin: https://i.imgur.com/T5qnhhc.jpg Source - Imgur Unless they actively stole Red Bull's intellectual property beyond looking (even very) similar I doubt they have much of a case. Copying shapes, ideas and concepts from publicly av...

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If Mercedes truly understand the porpoising then they can now refine the performance without bringing it back. Otherwise, it suggests they don't actually understand it at all. Hamilton's comment post quali suggest they don't properly understand it. On the straights the car was better, but you could...

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Covalent wrote: ↑
Wed May 18, 2022 6:56 am

UnlikeUday wrote: ↑
Tue May 17, 2022 4:49 pm

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Quite amazed Monaco is "midfield" in this statistic.

Ditto. How does the graph look if it's quali P1 or P2 winning instead of just P1?

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JN23 wrote: ↑
Tue May 17, 2022 9:05 am
FP1 starts at 1pm and FP2 4pm (UK time). That seems quite late to normal. Wasn’t it roughly a 10.30am start for FP1 last year, anyone know why they’ve changed?

I think an FIA aim is where possible to allow the teams to arrive on Friday, shortening the weekend - at least for short-haul races.

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I thought he was looking a bit hirsute and hippie this year! Maybe soon he'll give up F1 to go and glue himself to the M25! Nice to see a driver (along with Hamilton) with the brains and awareness to consider the real world outside F1, but that does prove that he's no longer F1-obsessed enough to be...

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The major problem with new tracks is there is no elevation, making the racing boring and the spectacle flat. All the circuits seem like a parking lot with little going on except driving left and right. No up or down. FE circuits are especially bad. I thought its major problem was the lack of a crea...

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