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by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect
Replies: 60
Views: 12413

Re: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect

I've read about the upgrades before, this being 2009 i believe when McLaren were playing catch up, there was only 1 or 2 races were their cars were different, one upgrade had to be delayed because it involved the drivers changing their driving techique to make it work which Heikki had more trouble ...
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect
Replies: 60
Views: 12413

Re: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect

He did beat Hamilton a fair bit in qualifying moreso than Button, but even fuel corrected Hamilton came out on top, the extra fuel that Heikki carried never accounted for the performance difference between the two of them come raceday, some drivers in fact would prefer to carry a little more fuel f...
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect
Replies: 60
Views: 12413

Re: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect

He did beat Hamilton a fair bit in qualifying moreso than Button, but even fuel corrected Hamilton came out on top, the extra fuel that Heikki carried never accounted for the performance difference between the two of them come raceday, some drivers in fact would prefer to carry a little more fuel f...
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect
Replies: 60
Views: 12413

Re: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect

He was getting the poorer strategy in qualifying because in the races he was so poor, whenever he was in a good position after qualifying he would invariable fall away in the race, McLaren got rid of him simply because he wasn't good enough When you are starting off on heavier fuel than those aroun...
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull.
Replies: 252
Views: 37602

Re: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull

Or that might have something to do with the car, i believe at one point the Bulls had a system of getting heat quickly into the tyres? Yip that was with the EBD. But then why can't Webber do the same ;) Even if the car is doing trick stuff you have to have the confidence to use it. Remember the fir...
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull.
Replies: 252
Views: 37602

Re: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull

I think a better title would be 'could' rather than 'would', then i would answer Alonso and Hamilton, maybe even Kimi?
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:43 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull.
Replies: 252
Views: 37602

Re: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull

I don't think any would. Maybe alonso playing the long game over a season by being more consistant. But given that any of them would quali close on the grid. One of Vettels main skills is those first few laps. Somewhere and some how he gets more confidence and a better feel for the car with the ful...
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull.
Replies: 252
Views: 37602

Re: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull

If there would be only Red Bull in the grid Vettel would win even easier. That car is so damn slow at straight and fast in hands of driver that it suites it would be even easier to Vettel win everything. Don't get me wrong but Vettel is now quite impossible to win. Developement as a driver is huge ...
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:32 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull.
Replies: 252
Views: 37602

Re: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull

PacificBeach wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Jarno Truli
Trulli didn't beat Alonso either
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull.
Replies: 252
Views: 37602

Re: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull

PacificBeach wrote:Alonso was paired with two fast drivers in his career and lost both of the matchups. If he is paired with Vettel it will be 2007 dejavu...
Thats just semantics Alonso and Hamilton were quite well matched, which other driver do you refer to?
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull.
Replies: 252
Views: 37602

Re: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull

Vettel's advantage over Webber increases as the exhaust aided downforce increases so to answer a question with a question, "Which other drivers perform well in a car with a firmly planted rear end?" A driver who likes a sharp front end and does not mind a bit of twitch at the back is probably not g...
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull.
Replies: 252
Views: 37602

Re: Which drivers would beat Vettel as a teammate in Redbull

Just Alonso. The guy who beat Alonso when a rookie can't beat Vettel, but Alonso who lost to the guy can, very strange and flawed Logic. 5 years have passed. Some drivers get better some get worse. Things don't stay the same. Drivers get better, its only advancing years when they start to fall off,...
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:53 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect
Replies: 60
Views: 12413

Re: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect

The bottom line is that Heikki wasn't prepared to find sponsorship just so he could drive around at the back of the grid, this is the disrespect part of it i believe, another part of it is that he's no better then many of the pay drivers now present on the grid, a very good qualifier but overall not...
by pokerman
Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect
Replies: 60
Views: 12413

Re: Gascoyne: Kovalainen should have shown more respect

Kovi said somewhere a while back that he wouldn't pay unless their were certain assurances. It was basically every year Caterham say they will be good for points and they are not. So he wouldn't be willing to put other peoples money down on false promises. If he was to bring money it would need to ...
by pokerman
Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
Replies: 57
Views: 12641

Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble

And how long did it take Romain to win GP2, he had 2 seasons experience where he failed to win it in those times. No in his second season he got drafted into F1 mid season the season that Hulkenburg won the GP2, which also made it that bit easier for Hulkenburg to win it as Grosjean was his main co...
by pokerman
Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:39 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
Replies: 57
Views: 12641

Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble

Johnston wrote:
diablof1 wrote:For sure Hulk is the only driver since Hamilton who has won all titles pre-f1.

But then some drivers got pulled out of their lower Formula to make the jump to F1 sooner ;)
Yes some drivers had the easy route ;)
by pokerman
Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
Replies: 57
Views: 12641

Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble

And how long did it take Romain to win GP2, he had 2 seasons experience where he failed to win it in those times. No in his second season he got drafted into F1 mid season the season that Hulkenburg won the GP2, which also made it that bit easier for Hulkenburg to win it as Grosjean was his main co...
by pokerman
Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 5 seasons time...
Replies: 50
Views: 9673

Re: 5 seasons time...

Well he was doing ok up to mid season, was Eddie tipping him for a top drive at seasons end? He certainly expressed surprise in the end of year review that Di Resta was overlooked during all the big driver changes. I think many fans of the sport have a very blinkered view of things, if a driver's n...
by pokerman
Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
Replies: 57
Views: 12641

Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble

mikeyg123 wrote:
diablof1 wrote:For sure Hulk is the only driver since Hamilton who has won all titles pre-f1.
Nope Romain Grosjean
Beat me to it :x
by pokerman
Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
Replies: 57
Views: 12641

Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble

diablof1 wrote:For sure Hulk is the only driver since Hamilton who has won all titles pre-f1.
No Grosjean has done it as well
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:14 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
Replies: 61
Views: 12396

Re: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers

If someone were to sit down with Nigel and write a screenplay, what an amazing story that would be, though I suspect there would be a bit of Prost bashing as well. It theory it would. But it is well known Mansell has the charisma of a brick. A stand-up comedian over in England called Jasper Carrot ...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
Replies: 57
Views: 12641

Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble

I think the whole team is better off with Mark as he's been there forever and is part of the machine. Make no mistake, its the machine that is responsible for the success, not one driver. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, ya know? But I don't think the young Germans would have any trouble on a teamm...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 5 seasons time...
Replies: 50
Views: 9673

Re: 5 seasons time...

Well he was doing ok up to mid season, was Eddie tipping him for a top drive at seasons end? He certainly expressed surprise in the end of year review that Di Resta was overlooked during all the big driver changes. I think many fans of the sport have a very blinkered view of things, if a driver's n...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: But really, How good is Vettel?
Replies: 159
Views: 28356

Re: But really, How good is Vettel?

Seb is a 3X WDC, so has proven himself to be a v good driver. Possibly one of the best ever, only time will tell. Meanwhile, the other current 'top' generation of drivers (Alonso/Lewis/Kimi) have to prove that they are his equal - as they have less WDCs to their name. Drivers' fans can come up with...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
Replies: 57
Views: 12641

Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble

Hang on! Hulkenberg hasnt won a race yet, he has had an oppurtunity and blown it. Vettel had a chance to win at Monza 08 and took it. You cant count your chickens before they hatch. Being a promising midfielder dosnt mean you are already champion. You could argue that Vettel didn't have a SC so the...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
Replies: 57
Views: 12641

Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble

I think the whole team is better off with Mark as he's been there forever and is part of the machine. Make no mistake, its the machine that is responsible for the success, not one driver. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, ya know? But I don't think the young Germans would have any trouble on a teamm...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble
Replies: 57
Views: 12641

Re: If Hulkenberg joins RB for 2014, vettel is in trouble

SilverstoneRegular wrote:Vettel would most probably batter Hulk on current performances
I guess you have not been watching current performances then?
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 5 seasons time...
Replies: 50
Views: 9673

Re: 5 seasons time...

F1 2017 Vettel (Ferrari) (5 times WDC) Hulkenberg (Red Bull) Di Resta (Merc) 3-time champion Alonso will have retired, 2-time champ Lewis will be racing in America, Kimi rallying. I see di Resta as struggling to keep his F1 seat even for next year I think people have been overly critical of him, an...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:22 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2013 Championship Challengers
Replies: 38
Views: 7560

Re: 2013 Championship Challengers

2013 title contenders prediction: Vettel: because he'll likely have the best car yet again unless Newey has slipped up. Alonso: because he's the best driver at the moment. Button: if McLaren make a great car that suits him. Hamilton: not unless Mercedes produce something considerably better than 20...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2013 Championship Challengers
Replies: 38
Views: 7560

Re: 2013 Championship Challengers

Vettel has to be the favourite, you can't discount Alonso even though Ferrari will probably have an inferior car again , then there is McLaren who seem to be on the same level as Red Bull now so that gives Button a sniff of it, Perez is an unknown at present. Not so sure about that. They've got 2 n...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: First Formula E team signed up
Replies: 42
Views: 7659

Re: First Formula E team signed up

I would love to see some f1 teams get involved McLaren said they might, they can use it as a testing ground for academy drivers honing racecraft in a competitive environment more time developing than just chucking them in. Yeah it could be a pretty good way of getting more tallent into training pro...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:24 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
Replies: 61
Views: 12396

Re: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers

I'm not bashing on the guy but just as Senna's legend grew to almost god-like heights thanks to his premature death, so too has that of Gilles Villeneuve. But that is indeed human nature. Once again, a valid comment I fully agree with. People are funny, and sometimes death at a certain time adds an...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers
Replies: 61
Views: 12396

Re: Gilles Villeneuve comparison with other great drivers

I can't comment on Earnhardt because i have no interest in NASCAR, however Jim Clark was considered to be the best and didn't need to die in order to gain adulation But that's my point. A driver on top of his form, and definitely one of the top in the grid loses his life through tragedy. That drive...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2013 Championship Challengers
Replies: 38
Views: 7560

Re: 2013 Championship Challengers

Vettel has to be the favourite, you can't discount Alonso even though Ferrari will probably have an inferior car again, then there is McLaren who seem to be on the same level as Red Bull now so that gives Button a sniff of it, Perez is an unknown at present.
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Ron Interviewed by the CBI
Replies: 223
Views: 32927

Re: Ron Interviewed by the CBI

We had to accept that we didn’t agree terms with Lewis’s management, therefore Lewis and his management team have decided to go elsewhere That first bit is very intriguing ;) Well i think the main issue regarding his management were Hamilton's personal sponsorship rights which were basically owned ...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 5 seasons time...
Replies: 50
Views: 9673

Re: 5 seasons time...

F1 2017 Vettel (Ferrari) (5 times WDC) Hulkenberg (Red Bull) Di Resta (Merc) 3-time champion Alonso will have retired, 2-time champ Lewis will be racing in America, Kimi rallying. I see di Resta as struggling to keep his F1 seat even for next year I think people have been overly critical of him, an...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:25 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Will Force India again take time to decide its Lineup?
Replies: 488
Views: 103107

Re: Why does Force India always take time to decide its Line

Does anyone wonder if the hold up could be because they're trying to decide if they're keeping Di Resta or not? They might be thinking Sutil and someone else could be more worthwhile to them? Maybe Ferrari are putting pressure on Force India to take Bianchi, Ferrari engines in 2014? The prospect of...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 5 seasons time...
Replies: 50
Views: 9673

Re: 5 seasons time...

Adaemus wrote:F1 2017

Vettel (Ferrari) (5 times WDC)
Hulkenberg (Red Bull)
Di Resta (Merc)

3-time champion Alonso will have retired, 2-time champ Lewis will be racing in America, Kimi rallying.
I see di Resta as struggling to keep his F1 seat even for next year
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 5 seasons time...
Replies: 50
Views: 9673

Re: 5 seasons time...

I'd like to see Frijns mixing it up with the big guys. He has won 3 back-to-back feeder series titles (F BMW, FR2.0, FR3.5) which is no small feat and therefore he should really get a quality drive in 2014. Well he's in F1 already as the Sauber test driver, many believe Hulkenberg will be moving to...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 5 seasons time...
Replies: 50
Views: 9673

Re: 5 seasons time...

Sutton wrote:...wee prediction.

the two title contenders to be...

Perez (McLaren)
Hulkenberg (Ferrari)

yes? :D
Well i don't see Vettel going anywhere and he's a more proven driver than those two, plus Hamilton will still be around