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Pirelli gifted Hamilton a free win in Baku, but Lewis himself had other ideas. :) From memory was it not Perez that lines up on poll and you're talking rubbish yet again in terms of handed out wins and it was nothing like this weekend? Perez couldn’t even weave to heat up his tyres on the formation...

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I think Bottas had a better season than Perez - he scored more points than Checo given cars that seemed very evenly matched. However thinking specifically of the drivers' title, Bottas wasn't nearly as useful to Hamilton as Perez was to Verstappen.

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Would anyone try to poach Vettel? He might not be the driver he once was, but he is an experienced hand who knows what it's like at the sharp end.

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I don't think the markets have noticed that 2022 is a massive technical change and we could easily get a 2009-style shakeup in the pecking order. WDC : Lando Norris 40/1 Daniel Ricciardo 80/1 Fernando Alonso 80/1 Estaban Ocon 100/1 Sebastien Vettel 150/1 Pierre Gasly 200/1 WCC : McLaren 33/1 Alpine ...

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SlipstreamF1 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:31 pm
Monza due to the crash. I think that's the worst way to win a championship.

The Monza situation from this question (the driver ahead in the championship is to blame for a crash that eliminates both cars) is the reason the FIA were warning about point deduction penalities ahead of Abu Dhabi.

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I'd probably try to rehire Bottas or make a bid for Gasly (who Red Bull clearly don't want but can't justify getting rid of). Alonso is obviously a very strong driver with maybe a couple of good F1 years left in him and might have an escape clause... but trouble follows whereever he goes and would y...

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Well that is certainly a whole bunch of words.

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I would like to know precisely what they think the 'misunderstanding' is.

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If Hamilton pits and Max doesn't then honestly no one has a clue what will happen. Reason being we have seen Masi makes the rules up as he goes along, for what it's worth and we all have an opinion I don't think he makes the same decision if positions are reversed but that's just my opinion. I mean...

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If Hamilton pits and Max doesn't then honestly no one has a clue what will happen. Reason being we have seen Masi makes the rules up as he goes along, for what it's worth and we all have an opinion I don't think he makes the same decision if positions are reversed but that's just my opinion. I mean...

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I think Silverstone. Hamilton takes Verstappen out in an incident where he is primarily at fault, but due to the red flag he caused he is able to fully repair his car and rejoin the race, eventually winning despite a slap on the wrist penalty? I don't see what could be much worse than that, tbh. Sp...

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I voted Silverstone, Real Abu Dhabi, and Spa. Real Abu Dhabi and Spa were both cases of one driver getting points directly from race control making odd decisions. The optics of the scenario at Spa would have been very similar to Abu Dhabi - one driver being handed the title by some fairly arbitrary ...

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I don't want this to go to court.

I do think Merc should leverage the threat of going there into forcing the FIA to implement some serious governance fixes.

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Carlos Sainz last lap radio: Sainz: "I think it would be unfair to restart this race. We should stay behind the safety car" Adami: "Yup, understood" Sainz: "Giving massive advantage to some people" Edit: Another radio message emerges - Danny Ric Ricciardo: I'm glad I'm not a part of that, whatever ...

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I don't buy the general conspiracy against Hamilton at all. He could easily have been penalised for the lap 1 incident, and the specific situation that played out also required a late safety car, so the theory would also need Latifi to be in on the plot. I think Masi just had an idea to engineer a d...

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Toto Wolff - DTM stewarding decisions to be "in the best interests of the sport and of exciting racing" Autosport - The scenes at the Norisring as Mercedes used blatant team orders to secure the first DTM title of the new GT3 era totally undermined the credibility of the championship. Gerhard Berge...

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- Exciting races and a close title race.
- Someone to write a goddam rulebook that clearly covers how to legally overtake.
- Root-and-branch reform of race control/stewarding, Masi to be removed from post.

FrogInARaceCar

I don't think it would be right to change the outcome of the championship. Masi is the referee, and he made a decision. A terrible decision, but a decision nonetheless. I do think there should be an inquiry of some kind to clear the air and figure out a better way to run the races (in my view step 1...

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Max drove brilliantly all season and is a worthy champion, but the same could be said for Lewis. Both of the last two races of this season have left a bad taste in their own ways, and I'm deeply disappointed in the sport that it chose to conclude an exciting season with such a contrived outcome. My ...

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It doesn't at any point say he can avoid the rules of the SC procedure To me, "overriding authority over the safety car" means "The race director can do whatever he wants with the safety car". I mean, I think that choosing to invent a new procedure on the fly apparently in order to engineer a close...

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Multiple Twitter people saying that the second part of the protest has been dismissed.

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I think it was right decision to race even though Mercedes was in disadvantage with back-marker out of the way . It could have happen the other way round as well if Max was in Hamilton position. That is how it happens in sports :-| It was never the right decision to move some unlapped cars. It went...

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The overtaking behind the safety car stuff seems really tenuous to me, the rule is intended to stop you from making a racing pass behind the safety car, not 'ooops my front wing went a few cm ahead of yours while we were getting ready for the restart'. The safety car restart procedure clearly was no...

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As hard done by as Mercedes were, I don't think the result should be changed.

However, this should be the trigger for a major shake-up in how the races are managed and officiated.

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Hamilton, Perez, Tsunoda. Honourable mention to Verstappen for the title win.

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The lap 1 incident was yet another of the constant changes of mind on whether you can run cars off on the outside, and what happens then. The end-of-race procedure appeared to be the rules being made up as the officials went along. Well done to Max, but the sport desperately needs to sort out its of...

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Expecting Max to win this, pole is a good sign for his pace and the fact that he wins the double-DNF scenario is useful if it gets close.

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IDFD wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:23 pm
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/a-req ... n/6864023/

An open letter to Max from the Chief Editor of Autosport.

I think he makes the points many try to just a little more succinct.

That's a really good read, thanks for posting it.

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Relevant: FIA Formula 1 race director Michael Masi has reminded Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton they could be hit with a points deduction if they drive unfairly in the title decider. Masi is signalling that points deductions (and so, by implication, changing the title outcome) is on the table in t...

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I want him to, but I don't think he will. On a related topic, I have heard (from my media co-workers) that since last year Hamilton is more into social causes and black awareness. Maybe, he will think of focusing full time into that? I mean part of the advantage of being a current F1 driver is that...

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I don't buy the 'Max is so dangerous that he has to retire' angle at all. But I do wonder, if Lewis wins title number eight, what there is still to do for him in F1. He's done 15 seasons and (assuming he wins the title) will have won the WDC in over half of them, has had no bad injuries, and he's ne...

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Mercedes has been the better car by a hefty margin since Silverstone. I wouldn't call it 2020 level dominance, but easily at 2019 level dominance. Abu Dhabi is not a circuit where anything happens. The run-off areas are vast, no chance of rain, smooth tarmac, and the two DRS zones make it very easy...

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Verstappen. Merc have looked very fast recently but that can change circuit-to-circuit, plus he also almost certainly wins if there's a collision.

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It's an anomaly they should fix, just like the one that let Lewis leave Max sitting on the grid for ages on the red flag restart.

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When did Schumacher ever pull “I pass or we crash moves”? He might have done one every couple of seasons. But Schumacher was reasonably clean for overtaking, defending he was harder. Senna may have done it once or maybe at most twice per season. But in the entire careers I never recall either makin...

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The reason I'm worried that we'll see a plausibly defensible move by Max that nonetheless eliminates both him and Hamilton is that based on Saudi he's clearly willing to drive very aggressively, and there's pretty nothing meaningful that's likely to be done about it. None of the penalties on offer r...

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I don't expect Max to do anything really blatant, and Lewis has very little incentive to take risks in close quarters. What would not surprise me is another of Max's divebomb or swerving-on-the-straight moves that happens to result in contact. Then we go to the stewards and the forums ignite :/

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I have never understood why "give the place back or we'll refer you to the stewards" is a thing and it was particularly odd yesterday. Race control should be able to say "give the place back" and the competitor should then do that. I don't get why the person who breaks the rules gets to pick the le...

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I have never understood why "give the place back or we'll refer you to the stewards" is a thing and it was particularly odd yesterday. Race control should be able to say "give the place back" and the competitor should then do that. I don't get why the person who breaks the rules gets to pick the les...

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It was exciting, yes, but I didn't enjoy that race.

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