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I was just surprised that your post suggested next year will play out with Russell forcing Hamilton into retirement, rather than it being Russell’s aim. Oh no, don't get me wrong I think Hamilton will beat Russell in 2023 to make Mercedes think they need to sign Leclerc or Norris once he chooses to...

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JN23 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:39 pm
After Russell makes Hamilton retire or after Toto makes Hamilton retire?

Russell's sole objective in 2023 is to break Hamilton so that he thinks he doesn't have a chance at #8 even if the car is competitive. I think the tentative peace at Mercedes will end at the start of next season.

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Russell will be begging Toto to put him in the second car after he makes Hamilton retire. He's the perfect #2 from Russell's perspective if not the team's.

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Will be important to start strong, whilst I don’t think Hamilton would ever be given “#2 driver status” next season a bad start for Russell would result in an early branding. I think the team is still questioning if Russell is "the one" so he really needs to savage Hamilton into retirement in 2023 ...

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Of course we should not dismiss the possibility that, like Russell, Mercedes have an agenda on the topic of relative performance. Of course Mercedes don't want to upset the peace within the team but Russell is their future and if he genuinely adapted better they would give him credit. Russell has b...

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t2jd1967 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:55 pm
Russell seems to think otherwise: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1018065/1 ... xperiments

This was literally dismissed by Shovlin and Vowles in the season debrief video. They said that Russell ran more conventional weekends here from 4:09.

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A long and succesfull career doesn't automatically make a driver good at adapting to different circumstances. It absolutely does in the context of how charitably Zhou's performance has been judged. If Zhou was very adaptable, he had ample opportunity to show it due to the limited running both drive...

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It's almost as if Russell, prior to 2022, hadn't raced in F1 for 3 seasons with Williams starting 51 races plus 1 start for Mercedes having previously started 22 F2 races finishing on the podium 11 times while winning the championship in his debut season meanwhile Zhou raced for 3 seasons before wi...

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I was only outraged after 2 people placed Hamilton in last place, I've no right to do that apparently , this coming after complaints coming from 2 other members about the voting, there didn't seem to be a problem with that, one member is still having to defend his opinion made days before, people h...

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pokerman wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:21 pm
I don't think it's regulars that are doing this, I think they would have more respect for the site.

Pokerman, it's people trolling you specifically in my view. If you stopped being so outraged about it then it would stop. Every reaction is encouraging whoever is responsible.

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The few days of testing before the first race with the current regulations are really no substitute. Alfa Romeo had the worst reliability in testing of all the teams and neither Bottas or Zhou got any significant mileage in what was a brand new concept of car. Bottas barely got any FP running in th...

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Consider Zhou, a rookie in his first season up against Bottas, a driver in his 10th season having raced for the best team in F1 against the best driver in F1 for five seasons . Bottas sometimes qualified ahead of the multiple WDC and occasionally beat him in races. Zhou takes 8 races to get his fee...

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I have noted the disparity with my views also in the team mate voting after races. Many see Bottas outperforming Zhou week in week out, but for me watching the races I am just left with the impression of Zhou being on an upwards trajectory and Bottas going mostly the other way. I personally feel th...

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So this is acceptable after the Mod told us that what happened to Verstappen in the mid season vote wasn't acceptable, it's either collusion of 6 voters or 2 rogue votes putting Hamilton close to last, it's only acceptable if it happens to Hamilton perhaps. All I said was I've seen worse, last year...

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It's hardly the worst case of poll bombing I've seen. My EPROM quotient has improved to 0.7.

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Votes like this are the only interaction that a lot of lurkers have with the forum. As with any anonymous vote there is always a lizardman constant of 6% or so.

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I am aware that the extent one is better than the other can differ somewhat, but from what you have written this season, nothing really suggests them being 8 positions apart. It honestly depends which Vettel you judge Stroll against. On a good day, Vettel destroys Stroll and gets a bag of points. O...

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The relative rankings of Sainz and Perez are proving very divisive with neither establishing a consistent lead. I feel that the people ranking Sainz above Perez are judging their driving when the Red Bull was at its best and the Ferrari was worse. Perez was remarkably close to Verstappen and finishe...

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Here is how I voted in the poll: 1 Verstappen 2 Leclerc 3 Norris 4 Hamilton 5 Russell 6 Alonso 7 Ocon 8 Perez 9 Sainz 10 Albon 11 Vettel 12 Bottas 13 Magnussen 14 Zhou 15 Gasly 16 Stroll 17 Schumacher 18 Tsunoda 19 Ricciardo 20 Latifi I feel people have chronically underrated Leclerc's season in 202...

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I'm all for discussions, but it's always interesting how people seem to know for certain what goes on behind closed doors at Ferrari. Perhaps I should qualify my statements with more uncertainty. I'm building a picture from snippets and have no inside track. I've heard that his rally legend Father ...

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I agree with your first paragraph. A no blame culture only works if your organisation is already running extremely smoothly or to make you sound clever when giving a TED talk. True, a similar example I think is James Vowles but he survives because although his methods lack the dynamism of the fines...

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Binotto lost his job because he seemed unable to identify that heads needed to roll in the strategy team. He seemed determined to keep his no blame culture despite the glaring issues with the strategy team under Rueda and Jain. Ideally, Binotto needed to be working behind the scenes to have at least...

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yodasarmpit wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:44 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

Yeah, it's surprising that someone that was a effective Technical Director couldn't hack it as Team Principal. You'd have thought if you could manage one you could manage the other but...

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They lose a great engineer and a poor team manager. They should have kept him as engineer. Binotto hasn't designed any aero or engines for a very long time. He's literally a team leader but has failed at the TP level where he succeeded at the departmental level. He was promoted out of technical rol...

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Paolo_Lasardi wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:39 am
I don't want to imagine how Verstappen or Hamilton would have exploded if they had to endure what Leclerc did.

We already did, Hamilton left McLaren after enduring 2012 for a team trending downwards at the time.

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It's kind of funny that by trying to force their drivers to work together Mercedes managed to end up with the most toxic driver relationship of all time. I strongly doubt Mercedes ever expected Rosberg to use the openess so effectively. It's to his great credit he was able to learn and graft to be ...

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We did see in the past that sharing set up work is a danger area. It is no coincidence that Alonso increased his performance relative to Hamilton in the second part of the season in 2007 after he stopped sharing the set up work. Once the competition closes up in a team, sharing set up work becomes ...

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As such, I hold Hamilton responsible for his consequential lack of pace and eventual retirement, and am handing the vote to Russell as a result, who finished right about where one would expect him to. This isn't the first time you've used an odd line of reasoning to hand a point from Hamilton to Ru...

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One of his best years and he's the driver of the season that year for me as well (maybe Kubica) but he did absolutely leave points on the table. Partially at fault for his crash with Webber in Singapore and fully at fault for his collision with Massa in Monza. If he takes an easy couple of 4th or 5...

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2010 he indisputably had a title contending car by virtue of the fact he went into the last race with a chance of winning the title (albeit the least likely of the 4 protagonists). I feel that if Hamilton had put together one of his best seasons in 2010, he would have been champion that year. Hamil...

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I believe that strategy has never been been Hamilton's forte, the advantage Russell holds there is something that Hamilton is unlikely to overcome. While I do think Russell has a greater big picture thinking than Hamilton, I don't think he actually particularly skilful using it. As I said in my OP,...

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He lost one position from Ocon in the pits, then was stuck behind him even with DRS. That one incident utterly transformed his race. #3 in a DRS train is absolute limbo, you have DRS on #2 but they have DRS on #1 to defend. Ocon's horrible pace meant he couldn't pass Stroll but could defend from Ha...

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The Italian GP was ridiculous to include, Hamilton had an off weekend, he was 13th in quali, 14th in the sprint race and 13th in the race itself; and that is after Ocon was demoted from 11th to 14th. How is that a 2 points swing? Very hard to agree with the list above Hamilton would have likely fin...

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Whilst I understand your premise I don’t agree with all the adjustments. Bad strategy calls and crashes Hamilton has to take a portion of the blame. I.e calling Belgium a 17 point swing when Hamilton was clearly at fault feels fraudulent. Likewise in Netherlands Russell was very vocal and strong in...

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But the league table doesn’t lie, particularly over a full season, and 35 points is around 15% of Hamilton’s total which is a substantial amount. I actually think the points table is a gratuitous liar this season particularly concerning Hamilton and Alonso. Let's have a closer look at the biggest p...

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What does your methodology score this out of interest F1Tyrant? I feel this may be a spoiler for a future Hamilton vs Russell Revisited post but here goes: Qualifying: 11-5 to Hamilton. Races: 11-11 draw. My methodology flatters Russell as it did Rosberg in 2016. Interestingly, Hamilton is undefeat...

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One step in the right direction, hopefully the field will tighten.

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2022 has been a difficult season for Mercedes with the W13. The car was an unstable, sometimes porpoising, "diva" that lacked the competitive pace of previous "divas" the W08 and the W12. The driver lineup was also refreshed with George Russell replacing Valterri Bottas. How can we compare the drive...

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I've got a gut feeling Mick will find a way back in. Drivers of his calibre have gone away and come back before. Look at Magnussen who has done so twice. Magnussen actually achieved something in his short time in F1 in 2014 (on his debut but still...) which Mick has yet to replicate. He was then ve...

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