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by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Bottas vs Albon (Split from Italian DOTD)
Replies: 46
Views: 4416

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix

Only one for me Gasly without a doubt his strategy put him place and when the opportunity appeared he grabbed it with both hands! To me Sainz was a disappointment he was in a faster car and failed to make an impression, exactly why he was dropped by Redbull at a point Stroll another disappointment ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:01 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix
Replies: 61
Views: 7783

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix

I think in the team mate wars this weekend, Vettel may be ahead (over the whole season) by the end of this races's votes. Seems quite amusing really, but I don't see the reasons for voting Leclerc over Vettel given Leclerc actually made a mistake then crashed. I have to say, Leclerc has got the spe...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:22 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Bottas vs Albon (Split from Italian DOTD)
Replies: 46
Views: 4416

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix

Only one for me Gasly without a doubt his strategy put him place and when the opportunity appeared he grabbed it with both hands! To me Sainz was a disappointment he was in a faster car and failed to make an impression, exactly why he was dropped by Redbull at a point Stroll another disappointment ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix
Replies: 61
Views: 7783

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix

Gasly and Sainz the obvious votes. Third vote a bit more tricky, Ricciardo did a good job and lost out to Bottas in the pits which considering Bottas’ lack of pace probably cost him P5. Also tempted to give it to Hamilton, two good starts and a cracking recovery job through the midfield. I think hi...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix
Replies: 61
Views: 7783

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix

Only one for me Gasly without a doubt his strategy put him place and when the opportunity appeared he grabbed it with both hands! To me Sainz was a disappointment he was in a faster car and failed to make an impression, exactly why he was dropped by Redbull at a point Stroll another disappointment ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix
Replies: 61
Views: 7783

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix

It's a really tricky one to judge today but I thought Sainz was strong throughout and a bit unfortunate not to win. Kvyat was looking very good in the first stint and was on course to finish well ahead of Gasly before all the safety car shenanigans, so desperately unlucky from him. Perez was simila...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix
Replies: 61
Views: 7783

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix

I think in the team mate wars this weekend, Vettel may be ahead (over the whole season) by the end of this races's votes. Seems quite amusing really, but I don't see the reasons for voting Leclerc over Vettel given Leclerc actually made a mistake then crashed. I have to say, Leclerc has got the spee...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix
Replies: 61
Views: 7783

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix

It's a really tricky one to judge today but I thought Sainz was strong throughout and a bit unfortunate not to win. Kvyat was looking very good in the first stint and was on course to finish well ahead of Gasly before all the safety car shenanigans, so desperately unlucky from him. Perez was simila...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix
Replies: 61
Views: 7783

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2020 Italian Grand Prix

Gasly and Sainz the obvious votes. Third vote a bit more tricky, Ricciardo did a good job and lost out to Bottas in the pits which considering Bottas’ lack of pace probably cost him P5. Also tempted to give it to Hamilton, two good starts and a cracking recovery job through the midfield. I think hi...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Then why did sky say multiple times, Why did he constantly have to move over due to overheating of following another car, why did the team get a close inspection when they looked to be trying to replace parts for what surely could be some car problem? Bottas can struggle sometimes, but I don't thin...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

I think some are over thinking the Hamilton pit issue. The safety car and pit being closed didn't happen long before he got to Parabolica. He was focused on entering the pit lane quickly for a stop , like all drivers would be, and made a mistake. Drivers behind had a little more time to radio their...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well, there hasn't been confirmation what it is and I think it may have been caused by Bottas himself when he bounced the car before starting, but even when he was within half a second off Norris on the main straight with DRS, the gap seemed to extend. Something didn't seem right. The gap kept clos...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well, there hasn't been confirmation what it is and I think it may have been caused by Bottas himself when he bounced the car before starting, but even when he was within half a second off Norris on the main straight with DRS, the gap seemed to extend. Something didn't seem right. The gap kept clos...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:24 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

I don't often vote for the winner as driver of the day, but I did this time. And well in time too. Still, even though I am delighted for Pierre, it's all due to the use of the Spectacle Car. No, it's all due to a multi WDC making a bad error Which he wouldn't have made without the use of the Specta...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well, there hasn't been confirmation what it is and I think it may have been caused by Bottas himself when he bounced the car before starting, but even when he was within half a second off Norris on the main straight with DRS, the gap seemed to extend. Something didn't seem right. The gap kept clos...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well, there hasn't been confirmation what it is and I think it may have been caused by Bottas himself when he bounced the car before starting, but even when he was within half a second off Norris on the main straight with DRS, the gap seemed to extend. Something didn't seem right. The gap kept closi...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Asphalt_World wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:44 pm
I just can't believe that Bottas seems so unable to challenge cars. They're must be an issue with the car.
Unless you are listening to a different feed, I don't know how many times it has been said that Bottas had some issues with his car. They had to look at the car during the red flag.
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Bottas has a golden opportunity here. Let's be honest you'd expect Hamilton to win from here. Verstappen couldn't overtake Bottas who was managing his cooling issues and haning back from Ricciardo. The Mercedes seems worse than others behind other cars. I think Hamilton would struggle to win from 8...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Crofty is right there. Good job Herbert wasn't with the stewards :D He probably will have found a reason to punish giovinazzi but not Hamilton. I don't get how hamilton can possibly think it is worth arguing his case. Driving past those two boards had such an obvious warning of the situation. It is...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Crofty is right there. Good job Herbert wasn't with the stewards :D He probably will have found a reason to punish giovinazzi but not Hamilton. I don't get how hamilton can possibly think it is worth arguing his case. Driving past those two boards had such an obvious warning of the situation. It is ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Bottas willbe taking a massive chunk out of Hamilton after a poor race. I don't get why Hamilton didn't see these. Same with Giovinazzi. I did think that Hamilton was always really careful and very aware of the rules. At the speed he was going, he had plenty of time to see these. We can't defend hi...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well they have confirmed Giovinazzi's penalty. If Hamilton doesn't get the same, that is very inconsistent. The two of the left are incredibly obvious for the drivers at that speed. If Mercedes are defending themselves about the lack of light at the pit lane, then that was the same for giovinazzi. H...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well, unless there was a fault with the lights for the pit lane being closed, I can't see any excuse for no penalty here. If it was obvious, I don't get why the teams told their drivers to pit, and The drivers also should have been able to see the pitlane was closed. Yep, as i watch, both Hamilton a...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

To me Bottas's car seems to look to be bouncing a lot more than it should. Could it be ralated to what happened earlier. I also think he may hang back from Ricciardo if he's going long and just try as hard as possible to keep verstappen behind and go long. Mate, there was never anything wrong with ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

To me Bottas's car seems to look to be bouncing a lot more than it should. Could it be ralated to what happened earlier. I also think he may hang back from Ricciardo if he's going long and just try as hard as possible to keep verstappen behind and go long. Edit: You can tell, he keeps trying to avo...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

To me Bottas's car seems to look to be bouncing a lot more than it should. Could it be ralated to what happened earlier. I also think he may hang back from Ricciardo if he's going long and just try as hard as possible to keep verstappen behind and go long.
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:16 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

Bottas's car looks incredibly unstable.
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:17 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

[/u][/b] Don't break till you see St Peter Valtteri!!! :thumbup: :lol: Will Bottas still will get some praise if breaks later, but as a consequence, just happens to hit Hamilton. Al least that was an attempt which is what people seem to want. Risks only sometimes work out well. One time when he bra...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:03 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

I feel like this is said pretty much every race right now, but Bottas his to win to keep his championship hopes alive. I'd like to see him get aggressive from the start, take a risk or two. There is a bigger chance of Verstappen beating Bottas than there is of Bottas winning the WDC. Which is hard ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:52 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

I feel like this is said pretty much every race right now, but Bottas his to win to keep his championship hopes alive. I'd like to see him get aggressive from the start, take a risk or two. He needs to. Bottas cannot afford to be in any other position than 1st after the end of the first lap and he ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 504
Views: 48909

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread

I feel like this is said pretty much every race right now, but Bottas his to win to keep his championship hopes alive. I'd like to see him get aggressive from the start, take a risk or two. He needs to. Bottas cannot afford to be in any other position than 1st after the end of the first lap and he ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 125
Views: 15987

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

3rd time, the other two times Bottas got the edge. so that makes 5? I was meaning this specific moment was annoying for Bottas. The couple of times were also really close which is why i included them, despite him beating hamilton. No 3 times in total, the other 2 Bottas got the edge, Hamilton just ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 125
Views: 15987

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Oh come on. This must be so frustraiting for Bottas. Next to nothing between them for about the 5th time this year is it? 3rd time, the other two times Bottas got the edge. so that makes 5? I was meaning this specific moment was annoying for Bottas. The couple of times were also really close which ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 125
Views: 15987

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Hamilton and Bottas laps just compared and it's confirmed that Hamilton was cautious through the Parabolica knowing he was up on on time. I don't know why he would be quite that cautious on purpose given he should know that it may not be enough. Had he done that slightly differently, Bottas could h...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 125
Views: 15987

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Kvyat was rather unlucky there. He was actually on target to improve and had to back off because of Magnussen, but still made it to P11. And even his best Q2 time was faster than gasly's best in Q3. I think he may have managed to beat Gasly this time if it wasn't for the yellows in Q2.
by TheGiantHogweed
Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 125
Views: 15987

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Oh come on. This must be so frustraiting for Bottas. Next to nothing between them for about the 5th time this year is it? 3rd time, the other two times Bottas got the edge. so that makes 5? I was meaning this specific moment was annoying for Bottas. The couple of times were also really close which ...
by TheGiantHogweed
Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 125
Views: 15987

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Hamilton saying "you saw how close it was between us all"

He does speak some nonsense at times. Sains was nearly a second behind the front row. It was close between him and Bottas only.
by TheGiantHogweed
Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 125
Views: 15987

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Oh come on. This must be so frustraiting for Bottas. Next to nothing between them for about the 5th time this year is it?
by TheGiantHogweed
Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:50 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 125
Views: 15987

Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

If Bottas is getting a tow from hamilton on the 2nd run, that probably won't happen as the 2nd run probably won't happen!