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Johnson

A tricky one, the best four drivers are all taken - Hamilton, Leclerc, Norris and Verstappen. Assuming that Hamilton is still a top driver come 25/26. Russell is in the next batch but for me he lacks that final ingredient to be top level. Maybe he will develop it or maybe it is there but it is hard ...

Johnson

Speculation is as speculation does, but Cesare Fiorio still has a signed fax from Senna that meant he entered into a pre-contract with the Scuderia. I can't say from memory when he intended to go there, but it would be interesting to know whether Senna would have minded driving with Schumacher in t...

Johnson

It has been very quiet indeed on the Massa front. As for the Hamilton to Ferrari move; in a way he does what Senna was in the end unable to do, though he fully intended to do just that. The irony is most fascinating; had Senna gone there, Hamilton would now possibly be trying to beat his record num...

Johnson

I don't think people would have even contemplated what Masi did as even a possibility, therefore there would be no discussion to be had. I don't think anybody post race would say "why didn't Masi hand select the cars between Max and Lewis to unlap themselves. Ignore the the SC waiting 1 lap after th...

Johnson

How do Ferrari fans feel? It is an upgrade on Sainz, I think most will agree and driver wages aren't in the spending cap so no loss there. If I was a Ferrari fan I would feel it a bit uninspiring brining in a 40 year old Lewis. They needed him 7-8 years ago. It would weaken Mercedes and make them st...

Johnson

Reading through the thread I believe there's a lot of over-thinking going on. Dolomite has nailed it for me. Hamilton has decided it's almost time to retire and wants to live out his wish to drive for Ferrari in F1 before he retires. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course I could also be being incre...

Johnson

Yes, Brazil 2012 there was not time to restart the race so it ended under the SC. The same as Abu Dhabi 2021. That's where we have to disagree. At Brazil there was no clear track, while at Abu Dhabi there was, and there was no possible excuse not to go racing again. Keeping the SC out for no better...

Johnson

Another thought, I wonder if he already knows that this years Mercedes has fallen short again? Hardly a vote of confidence is it. I have seen interviews recently from Mercedes people speaking about the winters of 2022 and 2023 and they admit they knew immediately for one of the years before they ev...

Johnson

Reading through the thread I believe there's a lot of over-thinking going on. Dolomite has nailed it for me. Hamilton has decided it's almost time to retire and wants to live out his wish to drive for Ferrari in F1 before he retires. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course I could also be being incre...

Johnson

Another thought, I wonder if he already knows that this years Mercedes has fallen short again?

Johnson

Yes, Brazil 2012 there was not time to restart the race so it ended under the SC. The same as Abu Dhabi 2021.

Johnson

So, either Hamilton thinks he can get his 8th in 2024 after seeing the car and then going to ferrari is just scratching the itch with zero pressure title wise Or he has seen the 2024 car, what toto is doing to evolve the team and is completely unsatisfied with what he is seeing and is calling time ...

Johnson

I guess it is all down to 2026 rules but Lewis will be an old man at 41 by then. Maybe 2025 to settle in, before an assault on 2026? I would back Leclerc to beat him. Credit to Lewis for going up against Leclerc though, that's bold, but I think Leclerc will be quicker. Especially as Lewis takes a w...

Johnson

"Abu Dhabi 2021 was the very first time something like this has ever happened since the introduction of the SC." Wrong, final race of a season already ended before under SC and nobody cared. Everyone forgot it.Also the rules are perfectly applicable even in such case, there is no problem. I certain...

Johnson

I guess it is all down to 2026 rules but Lewis will be an old man at 41 by then. Maybe 2025 to settle in, before an assault on 2026? I would back Leclerc to beat him. Credit to Lewis for going up against Leclerc though, that's bold, but I think Leclerc will be quicker. Especially as Lewis takes a wh...

Johnson

So what it comes down to is that Red Bull might have overspent on car development, but there is no evidence at all that the team did. Yes, I can see why that makes a strong case for the calls the Red Bull should have been punished more harshly. The reasonable argument in favor of a harsh penalty fo...

Johnson

What exactly are these sources? Please provide links to them . As far as I know the only sources of information on Red Bull's breach are the FIA report , which states 13 areas where they think Red Bull were incorrect, which nets out to 400k in overspend; and Christian Horner who clearly states that...

Johnson

Ross Brawn knew the 1999 Ferrari barge boards were illegal. He said it himself recently. At the risk of derailing this thread, can you please point me to that? I missed this completely. I think it is in his beyond the grid interview but I’m not 100% sure where I watched it (sorry). https://youtu.be...

Johnson

Ross Brawn knew the 1999 Ferrari barge boards were illegal. He said it himself recently. At the risk of derailing this thread, can you please point me to that? I missed this completely. I think it is in his beyond the grid interview but I’m not 100% sure where I watched it (sorry). https://youtu.be...

Johnson

As the saying goes, we all believe want we want to believe. As for the independent sources pointing to the overspend being apportioned to car development, I have not seen any at all, but perhaps I overlooked those sources somewhere earlier in the thread? I wrote that the publicly available informat...

Johnson

I am just correcting you. You said only by 1999 could he get anywhere near a title challenge. This is false. How or why he challenged is a matter of opinion but the fact is he did.

You just have to change the outcome of a single race per season and he wins the title in 97,98 and 99.

Johnson

Let’s face it, Hamilton only became super successful when he joined Mercedes. Hardly the same career trajectory as what made Schumacher an all time great. He has been very fortunate to end up with dominant machinery over such a long time. There's almost no difference in terms of career trajectories...

Johnson

Let’s face it, Hamilton only became super successful when he joined Mercedes. Hardly the same career trajectory as what made Schumacher an all time great. He has been very fortunate to end up with dominant machinery over such a long time. There's almost no difference in terms of career trajectories...

Johnson

So Verstappen became unstoppable when the team mate that was regularly his equal left the team... what a coincidence. You mean when a teammate, who got tonked 15-6 in qualifying in 2018, ran away from Max before his 21st birthday because he could see the writing on the wall? But no in 2019 and 2020...

Johnson

2018 qualifying analysis depends on what you want to show. You have 15-6, 21 sessions but in 8 sessions one of the drivers did not set a representative time. I would love to see how that 0.2% was calculated considering all the breakdowns in qualifying. Vertsappen was quicker than Ricciardo in 2018,...

Johnson

Oh I agree that overtaking from 2017-2021 was poor, I just don’t see the logic behind including 2015 and 2016 in that category. The cars were significantly smaller and lighter back then. 2015-2016 was peak whoever leads after T1 wins precisely because dirty air had started to make passing much more...

Johnson

There were more overtakes in 2016 than 2022 despite one fewer race btw. I'd argue Hamilton lost more races to Rosberg and Bottas precisely because of the effect of dirty air. Verstappen blasting through the field and past Perez isn't because he's so much better than Hamilton was in a dominant car (...

Johnson

2018 qualifying analysis depends on what you want to show. You have 15-6, 21 sessions but in 8 sessions one of the drivers did not set a representative time. I would love to see how that 0.2% was calculated considering all the breakdowns in qualifying. Vertsappen was quicker than Ricciardo in 2018, ...

Johnson

So Verstappen became unstoppable when the team mate that was regularly his equal left the team... what a coincidence. You mean when a teammate, who got tonked 15-6 in qualifying in 2018, ran away from Max before his 21st birthday because he could see the writing on the wall? But no in 2019 and 2020...

Johnson

So he was really looking for an even more winning formula? Yes, now that makes total sense of course. The 2022 formula plays to both Hamilton and Verstappen's strengths in a way the 2015-2021 didn't. There were more overtakes in 2016 than 2022 despite one fewer race btw. You only really get overtak...

Johnson

all lapped cars must unlap themselves SC may come in only 1 lap later both of these rules were violated by Masi. there was no more race left legally. and no one can defend against a 5 seconds faster car, stop spinning this nonsense. There is a caveat in the rules that allows Masi to do what he want...

Johnson

Do you think Masi sat on the track ? He decided the outcome single handedly. It was a race where Hamilton led all laps, even pulled a huge gap on Max. Masi turned it into a 1 lap cheat circus with Max having 3-5 seconds faster car. Masi did not sit on the track. And it wasn't Masi's authority to de...

Johnson

OK, let me reword it for you. In the 96 races before AD when lapped cars have been allowed to un lap themselves, in ALL 96 of those races. ALL cars had been allowed to unlap themselves. This is 100% of the time. In race 97, the race director hand picked cars to unlap themselves for which no reason ...

Johnson

OK, let me reword it for you. In the 96 races before AD when lapped cars have been allowed to un lap themselves, in ALL 96 of those races. ALL cars had been allowed to unlap themselves. This is 100% of the time. In race 97, the race director hand picked cars to unlap themselves for which no reason ...

Johnson

OK, let me reword it for you. In the 96 races before AD when lapped cars have been allowed to un lap themselves, in ALL 96 of those races. ALL cars had been allowed to unlap themselves. This is 100% of the time. In race 97, the race director hand picked cars to unlap themselves for which no reason ...

Johnson

OK, let me reword it for you. In the 96 races before AD when lapped cars have been allowed to un lap themselves, in ALL 96 of those races. ALL cars had been allowed to unlap themselves. This is 100% of the time. In race 97, the race director hand picked cars to unlap themselves for which no reason h...

Johnson

You said you could not choose between the options. The first 2 options are within the rules and without a human era. The third is not and a human error occurred in implementing the rules. So you are now saying, you would have preferred option 1 and 2 that made Hamilton champion? You do not like tha...

Johnson

There is a 100% chance Mercedes thought the race would end under safety car when they decided to stay out. Mercedes hoped the race would end under a SC. It really was 50/50 really. Nobody has any idea how long a SC will last. But the whole world knew, if the race restarted then Max was champion. If...

Johnson

You said you could not choose between the options. The first 2 options are within the rules and without a human era. The third is not and a human error occurred in implementing the rules. So you are now saying, you would have preferred option 1 and 2 that made Hamilton champion? You do not like tha...

Johnson

yes your logic. Over the last lap VER was seconds faster than Hamilton yet here you are with your nonsense, that Hamilton's car was faster, because you picked a very short time period where he was because of specific circumstances. They kept out Hamilton because they had track position and lapped c...

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