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Ricciardo wasn't out qualified 'fair and square', he had an engine down on power. Something outside his control. Very different to self inflicted crash damage. My issue was more that you only listed the issues on one side, you specifically listed the issues on Kvyat's side at Austria (and called Ri...

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I think Ricciardo would know if it was an engine v setup difference.

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I doubt it was huge, but a few tenths can make a big difference in a midfield car.

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Him running wide wasn't on him? http://www.crash.net/f1/news/220769/1/ricciardo-3cm-cost-me-three-positions.html That error was on him. When you're losing time on the straights you really have to over drive the car to get a result out of it. Would he have been better settling for 8th-9th and not pu...

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Ricciardo wasn't out qualified 'fair and square', he had an engine down on power. Something outside his control. Very different to self inflicted crash damage. This is a bit ironic now... I remember a very similar discussion we had last year (I think after Bahrain qualifying) where according to you...

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Him running wide wasn't on him? http://www.crash.net/f1/news/220769/1/ricciardo-3cm-cost-me-three-positions.html That error was on him. When you're losing time on the straights you really have to over drive the car to get a result out of it. Would he have been better settling for 8th-9th and not pu...

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The whole 'lucky' narrative was yours, I was only referencing it. Kvyat's mistake at Austria was on him, while Ricciardo had engine problems. They're not comparable. Well, you still have gotten this opportunity to take back your statement of considering Kvyat's weekend to be "lucky one" due to Ric'...

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You're welcome to participate as much as you want, my point was merely when you are so very active that its hard not to notice the same themes in your posts. Like I said, attacking Ricciardo for being out qualified when he had an engine issue isn't exactly a fair point. Yet, when the situations wer...

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If we are supposed to believe that Kvyat is also one of F1's top drivers to justify Ricciardo's status as one of the best drivers in F1, are we also supposed to believe that Vergne is a top driver? After all, he was pretty evenly matched with both in his stint at STR. Problem is, I don't believe th...

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During this couple of years of my presence here, I've seen some active participants being simply pushed out in this way. My turn now? You're welcome to participate as much as you want, my point was merely when you are so very active that its hard not to notice the same themes in your posts. Like I ...

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How can I be exaggerating Silverstone by saying that Ricciado was clearly out-qualified by Kvyat and that in the race he was bettered by Kvyat before the car failure? I spoke nothing about how "poor race" was that for Ricciardo. Austria, my point was that it was rather a lucky moment for Ricciardo ...

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His results haven't been poor. He beat Kvyat at Austria and its really not his fault his car failed at Silverstone. Its fairly hard to look good in a car that is in the lower half of the top 10 on a good day. In Austria, he was flatly out-qualified by Kvyat, and in the race Kvyat got his wing damag...

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His results haven't been poor. He beat Kvyat at Austria and its really not his fault his car failed at Silverstone. Its fairly hard to look good in a car that is in the lower half of the top 10 on a good day.

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Seb had no answer for Ricciardo. I don't really think it needs debate, it was a highly embarrassing year for him as a whole and I doubt he'd want to partner him again anytime soon.

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Maybe, but according to Mercedes, Ferrari would have won anyway. http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/interviews/2015/3/toto-wolff-q-a--ferrari-beat-us-fair-and-square.html Easy to say that to make it look like less of a screw up, but Vettel would have had a significantly harder ti...

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Oh I don't doubt that Webber wasn't an innocent party either, the only thing I found a bit disingenuous about Vettel with regards to Ricciardo was after he won for Ferrari in Malaysia, he had to point out that it was Mercedes first defeat on merit which was saying that all 3 of Ricciardo's victorie...

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Alonso had a poor '04 and '07/Lewis had a poor '11 and Seb had a poor '14. Alonso's 2007 was poor? How do you rate Hamilton's 2013? How about Vettel's 2009? I love that now missing out by the title by 1 point is 'poor', even in an inferior car. Was it his most brilliant season? Clearly not. But try...

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Certainly seems to be a lot of people in here attacking Webber considering they haven't even read his book. It seems to speak more of internal bias than knowledge on what he said.

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That sounds as if Alonso's greatness is dependent on the inferiority of his peers. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for 'best driver' when all your competitors are crap. I'd think discussing his achievements rather than those things he didn't actually achieve would better support a top grid rank f...

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Few means 3 typically. For you, maybe... I've never seen a rigid definition of "few" with an actual number next to it. I also don't really see why Hamilton would be included in the top few by default and Vettel not. Hamilton has faced most of the best drivers on the grid and usually came out ahead....

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Again, I just don't see it. I'm not even sure I'd rate Vettel in the top few on the grid. You can have your opinion ofcourse, but probably the opinion of not ranking Vettel in the top few of the grid would be treated by most in the same way you treated the opinion of ranking Vettel above Alonso. In...

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Besides, you already know I consider Vettel better than Hamilton and Alonso and value his 4 titles highly. So why are you asking that? Serious? Well, you're welcome to your own opinion, but I wasn't sure there was anyone out there that genuinely rated Vettel above Alonso. I guess that gives many of...

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Besides, you already know I consider Vettel better than Hamilton and Alonso and value his 4 titles highly. So why are you asking that? Serious? Well, you're welcome to your own opinion, but I wasn't sure there was anyone out there that genuinely rated Vettel above Alonso. I guess that gives many of...

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What difference does it make how many teammates they have had? Because until they've had a wide range of team mates its hard to gauge were their ultimate performance level is in equal machinery. Well I would expect you to say that as a fan of his. However, he has yet to have a proper opportunity to...

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If Daniil beats Ricciardo then two things will happen. My view of Daniil will raise drastically (which it already has this year) and my view overall of Ricciardo will reduce. I always expect Daniil will run him hard because he's a very good driver in his own right. I have no problem updating my vie...

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That's actually not true. In 2011 he came behind Narian - with 11 races to Narian's 9. Also, Dan beat Jean-Eric on a rematch after Vergne beat him their first season. However, what hold's Dan back from top driver status at the moment for me is the simple fact that he has not had an opportunity to p...

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Seb beat Bourdais as a rookie who is now one of the most successful drivers in Indy. Sometimes people on this forum lose perspective. Fact is all the guys mentioned in this thread are really good drivers. The difference between them is very small and characteristics about the car and the tires can ...

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That's actually not true. In 2011 he came behind Narian - with 11 races to Narian's 9. Also, Dan beat Jean-Eric on a rematch after Vergne beat him their first season. However, what hold's Dan back from top driver status at the moment for me is the simple fact that he has not had an opportunity to p...

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Button is too slow for me to consider him a top 3 driver in Formula 1. Whenever Hamilton actually had his head attached to his shoulders (2010 and 2012), he beat Button easily in both seasons. Hamilton beat Button 10-3 in a two car finish in 2010. Out of the 6 occasions when one driver did not fini...

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Ferrari and Raikkonen mentioned no touch, nor did Fernando or McLaren. The teams would know if the cars touched. No videos show any sort of touch. I don't understand what people are trying to hunt for.

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http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2015/06/pressure-growing-at-a-difficult-moment-for-raikkonen-what-is-ferraris-answer/ The tone of this article is very much that Kimi will be replaced I hope he gets the Ferrari drive He won't. There are just way too many good drivers on the sides. I do find it odd tho...

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Rosberg awesome. Bottas passing machine great result. Ricciardo, clawing up from 18 in that Renault Verstappen holding on for 8th in that renault Vettel solid race, caught up Massa, but no dice Massa solid race, no mistakes under pressure Special mention to Hulk and Maldonado - good racing in midfi...

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Rosberg, Hulkenberg, Verstappen and Ricciardo all had fairly stellar races for different reasons.

I would say of all of them Hulkenberg probably hit furthest above his machinery.

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the main reason F1 viewers are leaving is because sky have made F1 a rich mans sport , and BBC have a disappointing coverage , covering very few races live I don't know about that. I have SKY and I'm not rich, unfortunately. But as dedicated as I am even I find that I don't have quite the same leve...

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No, that was not the original point. You are trying to twist this. Honestly dude, I feel you're just being needlessly argumentative. My original post was in response to Bourbon stating Kvyat at Monaco as an example of one of few standout drives. I just stated I didn't feel it was that standout as h...

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[ In that case there's two possibilities: 1) Either you believe Horner's exact words that he would have lost an exact 0.200s or more (in which case the car was capable for P3) and it was really Vettel with an incredible result placing the third best car in second position. 2) Or you think when Horn...

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Monaco was Kvyat's, fair and square. You bringing in a TO in that last moments, not taking in to the consideration the entire race and the first TO that gave him a free pass, is not fair. You seem to miss the point. I never said Monaco wasn't Kvyat's, he had track position and track position is kin...

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Monaco was Kvyat's, fair and square. You bringing in a TO in that last moments, not taking in to the consideration the entire race and the first TO that gave him a free pass, is not fair. You seem to miss the point. I never said Monaco wasn't Kvyat's, he had track position and track position is kin...

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The point is that a race when the drivers are separated by 4 seconds isn't really a race that you should use as one over achieving relative to the expected position of the machinery. At the very least you should drastically beat your team mate if you want that crown, which is what those two example...

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That to me is still not a drastic difference, considering the race prior they were separated by 37 seconds and had two cars inbetween them and the race prior to that they had 48 seconds gap and 2 cars between them. What does the previous race have to do with their performances in Monaco? Kvyat unde...

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