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I popped in to see what was up in the Vettel/Leclerc thread and it's all about Max/Pierre, lol. I'm doing this year mostly in solitude, but good to see things are still lively.

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I just got this news flash. I will miss his enthusiasm and joy he brought to the sport. Rest in Paradise, Niki.

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Verstappen is a fantastic driving talent, but a terrible personality. :thumbup: His attitude will cost him a title before his talent wins him one. That is why he has to learn to cool his jets. It is quite eyebrow raising to see him going all off on Ocon considering all the 'close calls' he's had wi...

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chetan_rao wrote:Kimi's still in play if Hamilton is managing the engine.

He's "nursing it" to 1:12:.062
Thinking he's okay

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Let us pray it was Seb's tyres...

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I dunno that Seb's engine is going to make it to the end, he just seems to be going slower and slower, lap by lap...

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There is no defending Ocon, imo. You don't risky-race the leader to unlap yourself. That was just dumb. Max is catching up tho.

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Great drive by Vettel and Raikkonen today. Shame Dan had yet another failure.

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Invade wrote:Max is stewing and I fear for the race start tomorrow.

He'll whack Ricciardo, who will spin backward into Vettel, knocking him to the back of the grid...and it will all be Vettel's fault.

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Congrats to Dan.
Sorry Max - although happy to put Brundle's nose out of joint! haha! good stuff!
Not sure how that will play out tomorrow for the Red Bulls - chased from behind and fighting for the lead.
Vet and Ham together off the line...perhaps the fighting front row will give them the advantage.

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Oh well. In the scheme of things, it does not matter at all. As Seb has said about all his "youngest" titles, 'someone will come along and beat all of them eventually, so they are always fleeting'. But it is about time that Max start racking up poles...

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Mad Max out for blood.

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mas wrote:Indeed, Hamilton was the only one of the top twelve to do two pit stops.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... mQAEG.html

Which is why he came 3rd. He was having trouble managing his tyres.

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Martin Brundle is being a complete jerk. I mean, he finds a way to blame Vettel for every thing that happens on track. Claiming he is not beating up on him, but he is doing just that. Even the others admit he's being blind when it comes to Vettel. Fan boys should not be commentators. Vettel and Ricc...

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Why are they booing Lewis? Actually Lewis is lucky he went wide because you know Max would have no compunction taking him out in desperation if he'd of gotten close to getting the pass done - Max had crap tires there at the end. Great Job by Kimi today! Congrats on a beautiful win! Great comeback dr...

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/139463/hamilton-100%25-sure-schumacher-will-get-to-f1 Hamilton thinks Mick will be in F1 without doubt. Interesting points about the father-son thing. F1 is really the only sport that works like this. I think it's because it's so expensive to get into racing that t...

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Ferrari produced a perfectly good enough car to take the title this season but they blew out, stop making excuses for Ferrari and in particular Vettel. In comes the Lewis/Merc fans.. It's not just Hamilton fans. The combination of Vettel and Ferrari has simply not been good enough this year. They h...

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I'm going to go for... Leclerc wins the qualifying battle, and is slightly ahead on points. I really feel Leclerc is the real deal, he's going to have the full support of Ferrari, and I see Seb as vulnerable. Noooo freaking way! If there are 2 things Vettel shines at, they're opening up a gap from ...

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There is no way the overly dramatic and emotional Hamilton would have preservered even as long as Vettel once it was clear that the Merc was so much stronger. We’ve seen this when Jenson and Nico took the championship lead, when Vettel/RBR dominated and even at the start of this season when the Ferr...

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Anyone could have one in the Merc, so yes in that car. He may have made fewer mistakes in 5he a Ferrari, and been more challenging, but could not have won based on its season ending performance. In any other car no.

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/139224/vettel-verstappen-completely-to-blame-for-clash Vettel feels very strongly that the incident was Max's fault. I have decided to really take a second look at it and give him a chance. I'm going to say it's a racing incident and not Vettel's fault alone. Vette...

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Max's time will come. It will be a hard lesson for him because he will go from having nothing to lose to losing everything. It is inevitable that he will reap what he has sown. These drivers will not forget.

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- Undisputed dominance of Mercedes, their car looks stable and fast, as well as easiest to drive. - I didn't know that you can turn into half side competitor, who duly keeps his inner line, and make him spin without penalty. In other words, interesting tactics. - Ferrari lost it, clearly is not any...

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Grand Chelem on? EDIT: Petty from Vettel. Since when has driving a car as fast as you can in F1 been a petty act? So why didn't he set fastest lap before that? Wait, why shouldn't he have? Is he supposed to be worried about Hamilton's GC? Of course Vettel waited to make sure his car (which had dama...

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BMWSauber84 wrote:It would have looked pretty silly if Ferrari had made Raikkonen wait 30 odd seconds to let Seb past. Even Ferrari know it's game over.

Never going to happen. Kimi was not going to do it and Sebastian wouldn't ask. The championship is all but at an end, it would be farcical.

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Vettel has never had a helpful teammate while going for a championship. Yet he has always had a slow teammate. Webber was kinda quick in 2010 but not fast enough to challenge Vettel, reliability hurt Seb a lot that season. That didn't stop Webber from refusing to assist Vettel when he had no chance...

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Vettel has never had a helpful teammate while going for a championship. I don't think he wants that now either. He's used to having to do it on merit or licking his wounds and trying again the next year. Vettel's 2018 seems a lot like Hill's 95. The revisionists will be out in force come the end of ...

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Let's go safety car...

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Max and Vettel can take a lesson or 2 from Ricciado, that is how you overtake! It's always "Max and.....". Vettel has made a million passes, some of them risky, some of them Alonso (if you know what I mean) and no wrecks. It is not the drivers around him that need the lesson. It is max. I know it i...

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Fiki wrote:
wolfticket wrote:PDR inventing weird steward logic there.
What did he say?

That Vettel's penalty was based on Verstappen's track position relative to Kimi after his pitstop. It was bizarre, tin hat nonsense.

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I'm so over DiResta. He "predicts" every possible outcome so he can't be wrong - and then throws in conspiracy theories as a bonus. They do this so we'll miss Martin, I am sure of it.

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Why are they saying Charles is complicit? Everybody is not bouncing off the walls like Max. He did a good job at defending a faster car.

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pokerman wrote:
pokerman wrote:Vettel got Verstappened?
No looks like Vettel maybe was bit over ambitious?

Everyone is over ambitious when they try to overtake Verstappen. But one can always knock themselves blaming everyone else (unless it's the driver they support)

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Why didn't Vettel just wait?

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Fiki wrote:Somewhat surprised by Vettel's penalty, rejoining unsafely is one thing, causing an accident is another.

Verstappen you mean? I am not surprised.

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lmao- Kimi should wait for him to come back onto the track? You gotta love his ability to reason his right on the fly...

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minchy wrote:
bourbon19 wrote:Well VET P4 on merit...
P6 on merit, the other 2 places were gifted to him by Max! But it was a superb and brave overtake on Grosjean.

Agreed - but that's racing. I was referring to him not being let through, which was a topic of conversation earlier.

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Well VET P4 on merit...

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The app says live in 2 minutes and yet, no join live button has appeared....

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It is impossible to say. They aren't Merc, so it isn't going in with team orders on the table, but if it allows him to mathematically stay in it, then I'm sure that would happen.

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