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OK, so not able to provide a quote or an example then. Sorry, I don't believe that you thought anybody was arguing that it would be impossible for Hamilton to ever out qualify Russell ever again. Chill out and actually think about what you're claiming here. I would say that one member has certainly...

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I think in the part that dealt with Russell saying he was actually looking down when changing something on his steering wheel. Which Russell revealed in Japan, I'm not sure the stewards can see the future, however nice way to avoid the question which you can't answer in defence of Alonso. I can and...

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You have to give credit to Hamilton for persevering with this nonsense. https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046497/1/lewis-hamilton-now-knows-exactly-where-w15-not-strong-enough What nonsense would that be? It is a follow-on from last year. "I know what a car needs". I would wager there a people on this...

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Remember where this started? It was based on an argument of circular logic. When I point out that this applies to Hamilton vs Bottas, it is somehow not relevant. There are any number of reasons why the comparison of Verstappen vs Perez against Hamilton vs Bottas is not going to give us much informa...

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Fair enough on the first point, what I should have written is that there is no real telling either way. As for Massa declining over time, every driver does and drivers (and athletes in general) decline at different ages, that is something that I think is commonly accepted. Whether his accident affe...

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The relevance lies is that Bottas for all intents and purposes is not an accurate yardstick, this has been clear all along, and we can see that play out at Sauber. That gets countered with excuses as in “Bottas does not really try” or “Bottas is only good in a top car”. That than leads some to give...

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He did. Which in itself isn't breaking the rules. The question is whether Alonso making a mistake while Russell is checking his steering wheel is enough to earn him a penalty. And that is where his potential throttle problem may come back into the discussion. I was just replying to the member who s...

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Could you please quote literally anybody on the forum saying that it would be impossible for Hamilton to out qualify Russell? Just once will do... Having the need to use 3 race samples gives that feel of something set in stone. OK, so not able to provide a quote or an example then. Sorry, I don't b...

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Why are you complaining about a 3 race sample yet using a 1 race sample to discredit it? What Hamilton did was apparently not possible with him being over the hill. Could you please quote literally anybody on the forum saying that it would be impossible for Hamilton to out qualify Russell? Just onc...

pokerman

Read some news about Vettel potentially being in the running to replace Lewis. I hope that is untrue; he was past it by 2018 and the subsequent time at Aston Martin was already an embarrassment. Stroll should not be getting anywhere as close to a top-level driver as he did when partnered with Vette...

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I just rewatched the onboard from Russell's car about 5 times and to me it looks like Russell is simply unaware of Alonso's car that is visible slowing before the corner. From what I can see, Alonso wants the best corner exit possible and therefore is trying to reduce the speed of Russell in the pr...

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Oh, I've no doubt that without the big crash there is no penalty. That's because of shoddy stewarding rather than a defence for Alonso though. What is clearly borderline (just judging by the split response from the drivers) is Alonso's driving and whether that was over the line or not. What I think...

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The last part is a fine line, whether what Alonso did in Australia crossed that line is obviously something that not everyone agrees on. I think it was on the good side, even if somewhat marginal. If blame is to be apportioned to Alonso at all, then it is probably in the order of 30/70 between him ...

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No, I don't think a driver should take his eyes off the track for more than a split second when closely fighting and trying to overtake another driver. Perhaps this demonstrates a limitation in Russell's armour and it further fuels doubts about his ability overall. They make numerous switch changes...

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I am going to look at the onboard of Russell later today. I don’t think though that Alonso made a mistake and I don’t make much of his excuse of some throttle problem. I think Alonso should have stuck to his guns and come out and tell it like it is. I thought that Alonso told the stewards he made a...

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So news of Hamilton's demise in a 3 race sample is quickly quelled in a weekend for the first time this season he wasn't experimenting with set up. Focus now perhaps shifts to the demise of Leclerc in a 2 race sample, the season is 24 races long, just saying. Ricciardo's badly mangled chassis, in h...

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I'm not sure why Hamilton offered to move over. Sure he was slower in stint one which was unlike him but he was much quicker than Russell in the final two stints and lost 10 seconds to the undercut. He said he felt his car was damaged after a collision with Leclerc and then didn't want to hold Russ...

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Riccardo :thumbdown: , back to bed He was ahead. Albon the Chassis wrecker never got properly alongside. Both Ricciardo and Albon were at fault here I think. Ricciardo for moving over too early and Albon from driving into a disappearing gap. I would say that Albon is an over aggressive driver, as f...

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You have to give credit to Hamilton for persevering with this nonsense. https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046497/1/lewis-hamilton-now-knows-exactly-where-w15-not-strong-enough What nonsense would that be? It is a follow-on from last year. "I know what a car needs". I would wager there a people on this...

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It is not debatable whether Bottas was reliable in qualifying, but whether he is/was a very good qualifier. I don’t think there is anything to back that up. That he beat Hamilton from time to time and ran him close a lot more can also mean that Hamilton underperformed in those sessions. Ahhhh so it...

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Barrichello did match Schumacher for pace from time to time, something Irvine was never able to do. Massa in 2005 was probably equal to Barrichello in 2004, but the picture was different when he was paired with Bottas later in his career after driving alongside Alonso and his accident in 2009. I wo...

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Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas sometimes matching and even outperforming Hamilton is something that potentially weighs against his legacy, rather than for it. Barrichello was con...

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Just checked on Wikipedia (it is a very long time ago), Barrichello beat all of his teammates from his debut in 1994 to his switch to Ferrari at the back end of 1999. Now these weren't illustrious teammates to be fair. That does not take away from the impression at the time that Barrichello could a...

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It is a continuation from the back end of last year. You mean the last race of the season, Hamilton had Russell beat the previous 2 races, also in the last half dozen races or so Mercedes were only the 4th best team, again very much an opinion based on recency bias. No, it was the visible decline i...

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I'll take that, I feared the ones that had picked Tsunoda, well done Games Master.

pokerman

So news of Hamilton's demise in a 3 race sample is quickly quelled in a weekend for the first time this season he wasn't experimenting with set up. Focus now perhaps shifts to the demise of Leclerc in a 2 race sample, the season is 24 races long, just saying. Ricciardo's badly mangled chassis, in h...

pokerman

Read some news about Vettel potentially being in the running to replace Lewis. I hope that is untrue; he was past it by 2018 and the subsequent time at Aston Martin was already an embarrassment. Stroll should not be getting anywhere as close to a top-level driver as he did when partnered with Vette...

pokerman

t2jd1967 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:48 pm
You have to give credit to Hamilton for persevering with this nonsense.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046497/1 ... ong-enough

What nonsense would that be?

pokerman

The last part is a fine line, whether what Alonso did in Australia crossed that line is obviously something that not everyone agrees on. I think it was on the good side, even if somewhat marginal. If blame is to be apportioned to Alonso at all, then it is probably in the order of 30/70 between him ...

pokerman

Oh, I've no doubt that without the big crash there is no penalty. That's because of shoddy stewarding rather than a defence for Alonso though. What is clearly borderline (just judging by the split response from the drivers) is Alonso's driving and whether that was over the line or not. What I think...

pokerman

Even If I except all this.... Are you really continuing to argue that it's fine for a driver to drive in a manor that relies on other drivers having this super power? The last part is a fine line, whether what Alonso did in Australia crossed that line is obviously something that not everyone agrees...

pokerman

I will give you this nice bit of science to digest. Yes, I expect drivers to use a whole lot more peripheral vision than ordinary people do and be a lot better at processing a lot of information simultaneously. A boss I used to work for, who was very athletic by all accounts and could probably have...

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I thought this comment from Russell was very telling. Caught napping in other words. "Obviously a bit of a strange situation that happened last week. Totally caught by surprise. I was actually looking at the steering wheel, making a switch change in the straight, which, you know, we all do across t...

pokerman

The relevance lies is that Bottas for all intents and purposes is not an accurate yardstick, this has been clear all along, and we can see that play out at Sauber. That gets countered with excuses as in “Bottas does not really try” or “Bottas is only good in a top car”. That than leads some to give...

pokerman

Barrichello was clearly much better than Irvine but could not trouble Schumacher. That does not mean that he and Bottas were of a similar level of course. I think much better is stretching it, he was a bit better. I haven't looked into it much but I think that Barrichello and Massa are probably abo...

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Sorry you've lost me a bit, what is the relevance of Barrichello? regarding Bottas or the certainty by which we can judge drivers against Hamilton? Honestly I don't remember anything about barrichellos pre-ferrari career it was before my time, he was a prospect sure but only in the same way I remem...

pokerman

Just checked on Wikipedia (it is a very long time ago), Barrichello beat all of his teammates from his debut in 1994 to his switch to Ferrari at the back end of 1999. Now these weren't illustrious teammates to be fair. That does not take away from the impression at the time that Barrichello could a...

pokerman

There is no such thing as a known quantity when it comes to drivers in Formula One. Ofcourse, but it's about as good as you're going to get. Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas someti...

pokerman

Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas sometimes matching and even outperforming Hamilton is something that potentially weighs against his legacy, rather than for it. Barrichello was con...

pokerman

There is no such thing as a known quantity when it comes to drivers in Formula One. Ofcourse, but it's about as good as you're going to get. Hamilton has been sitting on the top of the pile for 8 years (2014-2020). The inherent problem is that many factors contributed to that outcome. Bottas someti...

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