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by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:08 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 89
Views: 2808

Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

RE the Sauber pitstops.... How on earth can that be allowed to happen. How do you turn up at race 1 not aware of this problem and then how can it take you months to solve something so fundamental. What was this about mikey? I completely missed it x( From the start of the season Sauber have basicall...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:51 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 89
Views: 2808

Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

RE the Sauber pitstops.... How on earth can that be allowed to happen. How do you turn up at race 1 not aware of this problem and then how can it take you months to solve something so fundamental. What was this about mikey? I completely missed it x( From the start of the season Sauber have basicall...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:55 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 89
Views: 2808

Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

RE the Sauber pitstops.... How on earth can that be allowed to happen. How do you turn up at race 1 not aware of this problem and then how can it take you months to solve something so fundamental.
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:31 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 89
Views: 2808

Re: 2024 Japanese Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

rbirules wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:00 pm
Strider wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:07 pm
Strider wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:43 am
Do we have any news about the rumoured zero-pod updates on the RB?
^^^ bump!
There are updates (new inlets, reshaped inlets, floor upgrade) but it's not a zero-pod design.
It's somewhat of a zero pod concept but not an actual zero pod design.
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:30 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Races Verstappen has lost in the ground effect era Australia 2024 - car failure Singapore 2023 - car nowhere near quick enough Baku 2023 - leading until the safety car gave Perez a free pit stop Jeddah 2023 - quickest in Q1 by half a second but car fails in Q2 Brazil 2022 - car not quick enough as ...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

It's a circular argument anyway. Bottas was closer to Hamilton than Perez is to Verstappen. We don't know if that's due to Bottas doing better than Perez or if it's to Verstappen doing better than Hamilton. I suppose it could be both. Personally I think Bottas skill set makes him more effective in a...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
Replies: 461
Views: 28711

Re: Christian Horner Allegations Thread

Just FYI when a source is cited as "A friend" it's almost always the person themselves.
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 9024

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

It's certainly interesting to see how split the drivers seem to be on this.
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:28 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

A combination of both driver being better and team being better operationally so I don't look to give Verstappen full credit for the percentages provided. You do realize there's a pretty substantial difference between a ~60% winning percentage and a 76-82% winning percentage, correct? Just how much...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:50 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

The 2019 and 2020 seasons are comparable to the 2022 and 2023 seasons but for some reason you don't include all of the 2022 season, including all would make 10 races that he lost. I've no doubt that Verstappen did better but it's very much a black and white comparison you make, Red Bull operational...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:51 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

I think I have emphasized the large amount of off-days of his teammate quite frequently. Him winning vice-wdc in his arguably weakest season is manifest of the previously unseen superiority and dominance of RB. Of course, Verstappen won races when he didn't have the best car. Some of his performanc...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Factored into what? I made clear why I wrote 5 (because it shows the underlying "logic"), you want to downtalk it, okay, but you don't change the overa Factored in to the logic you're applying. If Verstappen can have off days so can everyone else. This means on days where Verstappen's car has looke...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Well, at the same time you defend KV's list hard and attack Poker's ... ;) Your first sentence confirms what I wrote: Assumption: Verstappen cannot be worse than any rival at any given day Conclusion: there must be another reason why he didn't win (car not quick enough, teammate cheated, you name i...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:22 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Still, it follows the same reasoning: wasn't on course to winning = car not quick enough. In the post I commented, everything is judged based on the assumption that Verstappen is always and everywhere fastest. ;) I have seen no evidence that Perez cheated. For it claimed to be a fact, hard evidence...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

5 Plus no evidence that Perez cheated in Monaco plus Baku 2023 Perez was quicker anyway. It is a one-sided view as much as you can take it, tbh. It is literally just 3.... There are 2 others were it's mentioned among other factors which meant he couldn't win the GP anyway. Perez wasn't faster in Ba...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

The underlying logic here seems to be: whenever Verstappen doesn't win, his car was not quick enough. That's the a priori assumption. ;) That's literally just 3 of the 12.... 5 Plus no evidence that Perez cheated in Monaco plus Baku 2023 Perez was quicker anyway. It is a one-sided view as much as y...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Races Verstappen has lost in the ground effect era Australia 2024 - car failure Singapore 2023 - car nowhere near quick enough Baku 2023 - leading until the safety car gave Perez a free pit stop Jeddah 2023 - quickest in Q1 by half a second but car fails in Q2 Brazil 2022 - car not quick enough as ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Races Verstappen has lost in the ground effect era Australia 2024 - car failure Singapore 2023 - car nowhere near quick enough Baku 2023 - leading until the safety car gave Perez a free pit stop Jeddah 2023 - quickest in Q1 by half a second but car fails in Q2 Brazil 2022 - car not quick enough as ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

It's not a mystery. I set out my parameters. I'm taking it from the point where Verstappen had a dominant car. That's from Belgium 2022. Before that his car wasn't dominant and nobody regarded it as such. I'm only looking at 2019 and 2020 for Hamilton for the same reason. He won the championship in...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 9024

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

We know some more things. We know that despite refuting the penalty Aston Martin have not backed up the throttle problem claim. This would be extremely odd if there was indeed one as a throttle problem would be the biggest defence. We know that there was no sign of this throttle problem before the ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

The 2019 and 2020 seasons are comparable to the 2022 and 2023 seasons but for some reason you don't include all of the 2022 season, including all would make 10 races that he lost. I've no doubt that Verstappen did better but it's very much a black and white comparison you make, Red Bull operational...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2025
Replies: 781
Views: 28113

Re: Silly Season 2025

Neither should he if the other options are Sainz and Alonso.
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

The 2019 and 2020 seasons are comparable to the 2022 and 2023 seasons but for some reason you don't include all of the 2022 season, including all would make 10 races that he lost. I've no doubt that Verstappen did better but it's very much a black and white comparison you make, Red Bull operational...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Unlike you JN23 I can't be bothered to read back through this whole thread to check if this has already been mentioned but one thing I will say that Hamilton's legacy will continue beyond his time in the seat, not sure I feel the same will ever be said about Verstappen. I agree that Hamilton is the...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:50 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 9024

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

The fact that it's not on the report somehow proves you're right, surely you have to prove that it really happened, meanwhile it seems somewhat widespread that he was blipping his throttle trying to create a throttle problem as an attempted cover story, it seems that got quickly ditched. The fact t...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 488
Views: 9024

Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

It didn't disappear quietly, it's just that we have no indication any technical problems were taken into account, or were investigated by the stewards. What we do know is that none of that made it into their extensive report. It is not sure it was Alonso who was blipping his throttle, that is an as...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:03 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Depends on what you value in a driver. Broadly speaking, you can categorize driver performance in 3 separate scenarios. 1. How they perform in dominant conditions 2. How they perform in equal best car 3. How they perform in an inferior car I also put more emphasis on 2 and 3 than 1, but I think tha...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:57 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Some may think that while others will realise that Red Bull are a far better team and Verstappen has a dominant car with no competition. So the same as Hamilton in 2019 and 2020? Verstappen has had a dominant car since Belgium 2022. That's 34 races. Verstappen has won 28 of them. He's failed to win...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:21 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

There’s a difference between ruining a legacy and weakening a GOAT case, I think they should be separated. Verstappen doing things that Hamilton was never able to do, not even at the height of Mercedes dominance with Bottas as a teammate, won’t rule Hamilton out of the GOAT conversation, but it doe...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:11 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Unlike you JN23 I can't be bothered to read back through this whole thread to check if this has already been mentioned but one thing I will say that Hamilton's legacy will continue beyond his time in the seat, not sure I feel the same will ever be said about Verstappen. I agree that Hamilton is the...
by mikeyg123
Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

There’s a difference between ruining a legacy and weakening a GOAT case, I think they should be separated. Verstappen doing things that Hamilton was never able to do, not even at the height of Mercedes dominance with Bottas as a teammate, won’t rule Hamilton out of the GOAT conversation, but it doe...
by mikeyg123
Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:14 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

I agree that Hamilton is the biggest star this sport has probably ever produced, in terms of global fame. That said, I think Verstappen is hurting Hamilton’s legacy a bit from a driving perspective. If you look back at posts in 2019 and 2020, everyone was full of praise for Hamilton, and nobody rea...
by mikeyg123
Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Unlike you JN23 I can't be bothered to read back through this whole thread to check if this has already been mentioned but one thing I will say that Hamilton's legacy will continue beyond his time in the seat, not sure I feel the same will ever be said about Verstappen. I agree that Hamilton is the...
by mikeyg123
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Unlike you JN23 I can't be bothered to read back through this whole thread to check if this has already been mentioned but one thing I will say that Hamilton's legacy will continue beyond his time in the seat, not sure I feel the same will ever be said about Verstappen. I agree that Hamilton is the...
by mikeyg123
Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Unlike you JN23 I can't be bothered to read back through this whole thread to check if this has already been mentioned but one thing I will say that Hamilton's legacy will continue beyond his time in the seat, not sure I feel the same will ever be said about Verstappen. I agree that Hamilton is the...
by mikeyg123
Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 719
Views: 44945

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Unlike you JN23 I can't be bothered to read back through this whole thread to check if this has already been mentioned but one thing I will say that Hamilton's legacy will continue beyond his time in the seat, not sure I feel the same will ever be said about Verstappen. I agree that Hamilton is the...
by mikeyg123
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Replies: 1531
Views: 166992

Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread

Joe Saward has said that Antonelli will make his F1 debut at this year's Italian GP, he turns 18 days before the race and it's his home GP which is somewhat convenient. He will take Sargeant's seat at Williams which I'm guessing might be the last we see of Sargeant in F1. This also perhaps explains...
by mikeyg123
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:52 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2025
Replies: 781
Views: 28113

Re: Silly Season 2025

When Horner talks about a piece of paper, that is a contract is it not? “It’s like anything in life, you can’t force somebody to be somewhere just because of a piece of paper,” he said. “If somebody didn’t want to be in this team, then we’re not going to force somebody against their will to be here...
by mikeyg123
Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2025
Replies: 781
Views: 28113

Re: Silly Season 2025

There is nothing that needs to be known in this instance, Horner himself has said it. Now that isn't the end all or be all of it, but it also cannot be dismissed out of hand. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/mar/10/max-verstappen-could-leave-red-bull-admits-christian-horner Horner says nothin...
by mikeyg123
Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Your favourite Japanese Grand Prix
Replies: 14
Views: 495

Re: Your favourite Japanese Grand Prix

I might have nominated 1995 and 1997 as well as your great nominations. 1995 almost solely down to Alesi driving the most Alesi race imaginable and the Williams drivers imploding. 1997 because of the off track politics creating such a bizarre spectacle. 1995 and 1997 were before my time watching an...