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No. I'm saying that Mercedes have tried to do things that will suit Hamilton. Yes and failed. Sure and also not relevant. It's relevant to how Red Bull can give Verstappen the car he wants unlike Mercedes with Hamilton. Or, Hamilton doesnt know what he wants in the first place and just relies on te...

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There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strengths and weaknesses. The only similarity is that Verstappen was the best driver in both seasons. But yes, the whole “comfort ...

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Everyone who wants Max to “test” himself will get it soon enough, as the rumours are that he is joining Mercedes. I do wonder what the excuses will be when he inevitably turns Russell into another Albon. For starters the Mercedes won't handle like a Red Bull plus Newey won't be around, those advant...

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Gossip and rumour thread. I heard Newey was the other person at the centre of the whole Horner scandal story and he has now been forced to leave the team. No the woman was also Newey's PA, so he was probably close to what might have been going on and maybe not to impressed with Horner's behaviour. ...

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Day 2 of the FRECA test at Hockenheim saw Doriane Pin (1m36.415, 28th), Marta Garcia (1m36.805, 30th) and Lena Buhler (1m37.488, 32nd). The time gap was just 1s from 3rd fastest Roman Bilinski to 28th Pin, the first two were so much quicker I'd suspect a timing issue. By chance were the 2 fastest d...

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Gossip and rumour thread. I heard Newey was the other person at the centre of the whole Horner scandal story and he has now been forced to leave the team. No the woman was also Newey's PA, so he was probably close to what might have been going on and maybe not to impressed with Horner's behaviour.

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I think points for all finishers, don't really understand why not it makes it incredibly hard to accurately score the lower midfield - ust going by their best finish when there's not any points is stupid- you can have the worst team absolutely fluke a few points due to DNFs or some stupid situation...

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Everyone who wants Max to “test” himself will get it soon enough, as the rumours are that he is joining Mercedes. I do wonder what the excuses will be when he inevitably turns Russell into another Albon. For starters the Mercedes won't handle like a Red Bull plus Newey won't be around, those advant...

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Verstappen would absolutely enhance his legacy by going to a different team and proving he can do it outside of Red Bull. There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strength...

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No amount of gaslighting from Verstappen detractors will convince anyone with a bit of intellectual honesty that a guy who matched Nico Hulkenberg over 3 years is a bad/slow driver and noticeably worse than Bottas. At Mercedes Bottas never had a car that he struggled to drive. And how do you know t...

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Haven't Mercedes literally moved the cockpit position to suit Hamilton? I really don't think Red Bull are the only team that caters to their lead driver. You think that the car suits Hamilton with all his experiments, I would say that Verstappen will find a different world away from Red Bull. No. I...

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As I said earlier today if they can get Verstappen then everything Wolff has said prior can probably be disregarded. It's hard to make any predictions without knowing when Verstappen would be able to go to Mercedes. Things move fast on a daily basis with Newey seemingly leaving Red Bull rumour has ...

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There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strengths and weaknesses. The only similarity is that Verstappen was the best driver in both seasons. But yes, the whole “comfort ...

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There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strengths and weaknesses. The only similarity is that Verstappen was the best driver in both seasons. But yes, the whole “comfort ...

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I don't see why it has to be Russell. We don't know how good Antonelli is yet. Well that comes from Wolff, Antonelli is the Verstappen they missed out on unless it seems he can get Verstappen himself. As I said earlier today if they can get Verstappen then everything Wolff has said prior can probab...

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Verstappen would absolutely enhance his legacy by going to a different team and proving he can do it outside of Red Bull. There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strength...

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KingVoid wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:40 pm
No amount of gaslighting from Verstappen detractors will convince anyone with a bit of intellectual honesty that a guy who matched Nico Hulkenberg over 3 years is a bad/slow driver and noticeably worse than Bottas.

At Mercedes Bottas never had a car that he struggled to drive.

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Our debate is not if Bottas is better than Max, but him being better than Perez, and Perez paints Max good with his inability. Long story short: 2021 was Bottas' worst against Lewis, he was unmotivated and sacked, obvious why you picked it for comparison. Dont know how Max beat Bottas in 2020, when...

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Verstappen would absolutely enhance his legacy by going to a different team and proving he can do it outside of Red Bull. There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strength...

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Everyone who wants Max to “test” himself will get it soon enough, as the rumours are that he is joining Mercedes. I do wonder what the excuses will be when he inevitably turns Russell into another Albon. For starters the Mercedes won't handle like a Red Bull plus Newey won't be around, those advant...

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Obviously not ideal for either driver but nobody can complain if they're let go for an upgrade. Well it would have to be Russell then wasn't Antonelli supposed to be the Verstappen that got away or maybe not if they can get Verstappen himself. I don't see why it has to be Russell. We don't know how...

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In my opinion Verstappen is currently obviously the best driver. I have little doubt. Fair enough if you disagree though. It's always impossible to know 100%. If one looks at the two burdens of proof from the US legal system -- preponderance of evidence (civil cases) and beyond a reasonable doubt (...

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Is there a driver in F1 history that we never found out completely. I can not think of one. You just have to be patient enough and it all works out. There was a time when Kimi was the fastest man in F1 and Schumachers replacement. That ended when he switched teams. There was a time when Vettel was ...

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That's pretty pejorative language. Mercedes wouldn't be treating either of their drivers unfairly by signing someone better. So I wouldn't describe it as that. They both are supposed to be the future of Mercedes, it's not really a good look for Russell. Obviously not ideal for either driver but nob...

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That would be a good move for Ocon and hopefull leave room at Alpine for Martins if he picks his form up off the floor. I think Doohan is first in line. As of now definitely. I believe Martins to be more talented though so would rather they skipped over Doohan for him provided he can get his F2 sea...

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Got to be ruthless. F1 isn't a charity. If they're fine with losing Hamilton because they have Antonelli on the way then they'll definitely be OK with whoever out of Russell or Antonelli performs the worst for Verstappen. So like I said about being thrown under the bus. That's pretty pejorative lan...

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I think Bottas will stay if Sainz says no. They are also interested in Ocon. That would be a good move for Ocon and hopefull leave room at Alpine for Martins if he picks his form up off the floor. I think Doohan is first in line. As of now definitely. I believe Martins to be more talented though so...

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Russell stays at Merc. Antonelli gets a few years at Williams. There could be a logistics problem, how long do Mercedes wait on Verstappen making a decision, he certainly won't be driving for Mercedes next year, in the meantime what do they do with their drivers, pairing them up immediately means o...

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Who does he replace in Sauber? I think that Bottas and Zhou both unlikely to be retained next year. I think Bottas will stay if Sainz says no. They are also interested in Ocon. That would be a good move for Ocon and hopefull leave room at Alpine for Martins if he picks his form up off the floor. I ...

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Verstappen going to Mercedes is what I was indirectly referring to. Supposedly, Newey is unhappy with the power struggle taking place behind the scenes at Red Bull. im confused about max going to mercedes,what happens to george(new team leader) and antonelli(the protoge) Russell stays at Merc. Anto...

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This is awesome news. Newey definately doesnt fit in with red bulls bs, this is like Galen Erso escaping the empire. Does that mean Newey will now engineer a critical flaw into the RB21 that will allow his next team to defeat them? It'll be interesting to see what happens for sure. Every other time...

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mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:53 pm
Another thought... Will Newey be allowed to walk into another team or will he have a contract he has to wait out?

I've heard 1 years gardening leave.

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How about Verstappen following Newey to Ferrari with Leclerc suddenly being free on the market alongside Sainz? Verstappen and Hamilton of all people as teammates in Ferrari. Wow. No, that isn't going to happen. But then again most of us would have said the same about Hamilton to Ferrari just a few...

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Covalent wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:35 am
Hulk confirmed for Sauber next year.
Who does he replace in Sauber?
I think that Bottas and Zhou both unlikely to be retained next year.
I think Bottas will stay if Sainz says no.

They are also interested in Ocon.

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This is massive if true. If this happens, I can see Verstappen leave Red Bull too. 1783494391702683656 How about Verstappen following Newey to Ferrari with Leclerc suddenly being free on the market alongside Sainz? Verstappen and Hamilton of all people as teammates in Ferrari. Wow. No, that isn't g...

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This is massive if true. If this happens, I can see Verstappen leave Red Bull too. 1783494391702683656 How about Verstappen following Newey to Ferrari with Leclerc suddenly being free on the market alongside Sainz? Verstappen and Hamilton of all people as teammates in Ferrari. Wow. No, that isn't g...

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Newey’s new 90ft Oyster yacht is being delivered this year and he has made no secret of the fact that he wants to sail around the world with his family before he gets any older. This has been known for a long time and I just wonder how much that figures in Newey’s future plans (I suspect more than ...

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BBC reporting it now as well, although that could just be Andrew Benson doing his usual thing of parroting other reports. I reckon he'll go to Aston Martin. The idea of him joining Lewis at Ferrari is fascinating but I find it hard to believe that, at 65 years old, he's going to up sticks and move ...

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This is massive if true. If this happens, I can see Verstappen leave Red Bull too. 1783494391702683656 How about Verstappen following Newey to Ferrari with Leclerc suddenly being free on the market alongside Sainz? Verstappen and Hamilton of all people as teammates in Ferrari. Wow. No, that isn't g...

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This is massive if true. If this happens, I can see Verstappen leave Red Bull too. Question is does Alonso get lucky (Aston Martin) or Hamilton (Ferrari)? 1783494391702683656 Apparently he is contracted to Red Bull until 2025 then there would be a year's gardening leave so any new team he joins wou...

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