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The deeper question is; can anyone hope to really challenge Ferrari or Mercedes in this era? They have the ability to holistically design their chassis and engine to work in unison with each other and can withold some of the bells and whistles from their customers' engines. How can a customer hope ...

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sandman1347 wrote:I seriously doubt they'd be out of the midfield even with a better engine.

2014 strongly hints to that.

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Top teams keep offering seats to Alonso but I doubt they want the turmoil that comes with signing him. Alonso requires a team that treats him like the king he thinks he is. Really? It's no surprise that he won his two titles with Briatore, who treated him just like that. When he left for McLaren an...

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Hamilton did beat Button handily in 2010 to be fair. Lewis has a track record of beating new teammates that come to "his" team: Alonso (I know it was a tie but still...), Kovalainen, Button... Rosberg was arguably better in 2013 although Lewis lost a ton of points with his puncture in Silverstone. ...

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McLaren used Peugeot for the 1994 season. Perhaps that experience put them off the French. I don't remember why the McLaren underperformed that year, because to my knowledge the Peugeot engine was a pretty good one, since Peugeot had just won Le Mans with it. According to Wikipedia the engine would...

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So far, I think Bottas has shown he is about as good as Rosberg really. He qualifid closer to Hamilton in Austrilia than Rosberg ever managed. Then in the race, although Hamilton was a little unlucky, Bottas at one point was clearly a lot faster for quite some time. That wasn't bad at all for his f...

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McLaren should get rid of Honda ASAP, I'd like to see a Renault engine in those McLarens. In all these years, it's quite funny that McLaren has never contracted Renault to supply their engines. Among victorious engine suppliers, McLaren went through Porsche (TAG), Honda, Ford, Ilmor-Mercedes and no...

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kleefton wrote:Forgettable drives for Massa, Bottas, Stroll, Raikonnen, Palmer and Giovanazzi. Quite a few guys underperformed today.

Stroll's time on the track wasn't even a drive, it was just that: a stroll.

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As for the race... Vettel made the most out of the bad situation he was put in due to things out of his control, while Hamilton had it all too easy when the safety car came out. Verstappen fast and reckless as always, if you're scared of nothing you might as well be dead, the bravest men are also th...

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Verstappen not sounding like a future champion. I think he's not champion material right now, but he's one of the best prospects on the grid. He's still a teenager and shouldn't have even been given a 700+ bhp car to play with, but now that the FIA allowed it, he can show his talent as well as his ...

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I'm not saying he would have done, though. I'm simply responding to your claim at the time it was made when you were making out that Lewis was outclassing the Ferraris. He wasn't doing anything special (nothing bad, either), but although Kimi was poor - and arguably being outclassed by almost every...

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I agree with that. Provided Bottas continues to perform solidly, I think Merc will settle in with their driver line-up for a few years (possibly until Hamilton leaves or retires). Even though Vettel's contract is up at the end of the season, I don't think he'll want to go anywhere now that the car ...

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The point I'm making is that you can't conclude that one car is faster based on this session. It's a 100% sound point. You seem to want to conclude that the Mercedes is faster and that is a point that simply isn't yet properly supported. You wouldn't have to conclude that Vettel and Bottas are the ...

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I mean, Bottas has always been a very strong qualifier, relative to Massa. While last year Vettel got out qualified by Raikkonen... I don't think its unreasonable to assume the cars are similarly paced and Hamilton is the strongest of the pair. Of course being F1, you can never really know anything...

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Your argument actually only makes sense if it's a given that Hamilton and Vettel are of identical speed (which it certainly is not). Bottas is actually a strong qualifier and Kimi is a notoriously weak qualifier. There is certainly no concrete way to conclude that one car is any quicker than the ot...

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I mock Honda a lot, but I'm sad to see them in F1 now. The company that won five straight WDCs before 1992 with Williams and McLaren, now going through a terrible slump. In a way, Renault's current form is also disastrous for a company whose engines used to be the most coveted on the grid. The McLar...

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If banter is the best these Americans have as a suggestion, it's not gonna be a good time for F1. I already don't like the radio after pole laps and race wins, feels so scripted. Adding banter to that would make it worse. There's a lot I like in American motorsports culture, like the ease of access ...

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The active suspension predated Newey's time with the team, but Newey designed the cars around the active suspension anyway, so it doesn't make much difference. McLaren was competitive in 1997 but the following year was a big change in the regulations, so Newey did help them a lot. I remember reading...

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Ford is in a good position in the WEC right now because they designed a car that pushes the limits of the rules and were given a pass, so they're competitive if not the class of the field and willing to squeeze every bit of publicity out of it should they win further editions of Le Mans. It's not a...

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It would've been difficult because of lack of TV coverage. I would've been a fan of racing, though not necessarily F1.

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Ford is in a good position in the WEC right now because they designed a car that pushes the limits of the rules and were given a pass, so they're competitive if not the class of the field and willing to squeeze every bit of publicity out of it should they win further editions of Le Mans. It's not a ...

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mikeyg123 wrote:I don't know why people act like having Newey on board guarantees you the best aero. Look at Mclaren in the early 00s.

Newey cost Raikkonen a title in 2005 by designing a very lean car which blew up engines every other race. I remember hearing he likes his cars lean, which affects engine cooling.

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Top teams keep offering seats to Alonso but I doubt they want the turmoil that comes with signing him. Alonso requires a team that treats him like the king he thinks he is. It's no surprise that he won his two titles with Briatore, who treated him just like that. When he left for McLaren and Ron Den...

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I'd rather have older Ferrari than newer Honda if I were Sauber. Sadly, another step closer to bankrupcy. In all seriousness, it's so sad to see what has become of that company. Soulless cars and engines inspired by bean counters. I remember attending the 1989 Chicago Auto Show and seeing the MP4/4 ...

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The stewarding is already so lax people get away with blatantly breaking the rules. The last thing we need is more of that. So? It's lax, but only for certain people. If Verstappen is given free pass to push others out of the track and move under braking, the others should have it, too. Every race ...

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A good start would be more lax stewarding. This would favor bullies like Hamilton and Verstappen, but would also force everyone to be more aggressive. And you don't have to change a thing in the cars.

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I think this will have the opposite effect of what people want. Why? There's no way they can keep the engines road-relevant while moving away from turbo and electricity. Just take a look around, turbos are everywhere except for very few exotic manufacturers and the cheapest of the cheap. Manufacture...

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This is partly unrelated, but the people who make these kinds of videos are the same who believe that the turbo era of the 80s was the greatest in F1 history, which naturally would extend to the sound. However, the reason why we fantasize about that era is largely related to driver skill, because we...

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What made F1 boring wasn't lack of overtakes to begin with, it's the utter dominance of a single team in 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016... It gets old, people dont want to see their favourite drivers racing for 3rd position while 2 other cars cruise around to easy wins in every race. But this is quit...

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I guess we can pretty much all agree that all DRS did was NASCARize F1. If you want a million overtakes per race, look no further than oval racing. In circuit racing, overtakes have to be rare because most tracks have only a couple overtaking points. While overtakes in NASCAR and IndyCar oval racing...

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The lap is faster but IMO the flow of the track will be worse, because all they did was to move the Rettifilio after the Curva Grande rather than before. The new chicane is faster than the Rettifilio, but this will make the run to the della Roggia chicane much slower. However, it'll require more ski...

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The last time was in 2012 when McLaren-Mercedes and Red Bull-Renault rated at 100.0. Of course two equal top cars made for one of the most exciting seasons. I thought the Lewis/McLaren-Mercedes should have won the WDC. He had a few slow pitstops and some grid penalties. the cars scored 7 wins each....

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OP, they did win the DTM last year as well.

/sarcasm

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Nice livery but unfortunately the orange in black thing immediately brings the Arrows livery to mind when the team was on its last legs... Hope the car is fast enough to get rid of that image.

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tbh, I don't think the majority of fans really care what's behind the scenes, within reason. Ultimately, they want the fastest single seater race cars in the world that look like mere mortals wouldn't be able to drive them: the rest is pretty incidental. Clearly, there's a balance to be had. But I ...

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:thumbup: For the sizable minority of us who derive a large part of our pleasure of F1 from the fact that it is an engineering competition, that would be a disastrous change. And really, since F1 has never had the best racing in any objective way, it would be the end of Formula One's identity. I've...

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This of course assumes that driving styles are the same amongst drivers or that there is only one "best" way to drive any one corner or track. Some prefer oversteer some under steer. The way a driver who likes a pointy front will attack a corner differently than one who steers more with the throttl...

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Formula One reached it's ceiling on performance back in the 1980's, and ever since then the regulations are re-written every few years to force it back down when the clever engineers find more performance. If anything is a urban legend, it's this. Yes the horsepower figures hit the four digits mark...

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Much of the problem with current F1 is due to it staying relevant to road cars, something it cannot move away from anymore. The days where automobile giants' involvement in the sport was minimal and all most teams had to do to compete was to knock on Cosworth's door to buy their very own DFV V8 and ...

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Indeed, one can watch it. As I watched it, it sure seems that Damon knew of Schumi's shunt, and could have, and should have waited to try to make the pass. Your argument doesn't work because, if Damon should have waited to overtake Schumacher after the German hitting the wall, then you concede that...

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