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Fiki

The question is with each passing year that Merc and Hamilton continue their dominance does it hurt Max Verstappen’s long term legacy in the sport? It seems like he doesn’t maximize his opportunities on many occasions - none clearer than today. It’s always interesting to read these old threads back...

Fiki

You would leave the car there to be potentially hit by another car. Of course, that's how it used to be done. I fail to see why a stranded car should be retrieved, and I fail even harder at trying to understand why a stranded car should be an excuse to bunch up the field behind a spectacle car and ...

Fiki

I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...

Fiki

Street tracks are totally different and actually in Australia we saw why that is. Parts strewn all over the track which is very, I mean really very unlikely to happen with gravel traps. A car stuck in a gravel trap brings out a SC. It does, but do we see many cars beached these days? Of course ther...

Fiki

I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...

Fiki

I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...

Fiki

I think an extra few SC's a season would be well worth not having to endure concrete run offs. I don't even believe there's a need for bringing out the SC simply because there's a car in a gravel trap somewhere. It's off the track, and therefore not in a dangerous place. I have always thought that ...

Fiki

Yeah, much like Magnussen in Jeddah. It was as controversial back then as it was today. Brake-testing? Unpredictable moving under braking? Edit: What Magnussen and Rosberg did were unfair or not (debatable), but clearly different to the Vettel-Verstappen-(to a lesser degree) Alonso type of antics, ...

Fiki

:thumbup: Very nice find. Yes, as I wrote, with Senna the times of respect driving started to change. Still, no brake-testing or unpredictable moving under braking involved here as far as I can see. Squeezing became more common, yes, as I wrote. And you are also right regarding social media. I woul...

Fiki

Not exactly F1 news but there is a link. Liberty set to take over ownership of Moto GP. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/motor-racing-f1-owner-liberty-media-set-to-take-over-motogp-sky-reports/ar-BB1kQfRl?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=549f0a81d58c4b939b3bdb6c1b8d4e08&ei=45 How long until we get...

Fiki

Racing could be just as unfair in the 80s just perhaps in different ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulV75GP2CiU If this sequence of events involving Senna and Rosberg happened today nobody would ever stop talking about it. There was just no social media back then to magnify controversies. :th...

Fiki

Not exactly F1 news but there is a link. Liberty set to take over ownership of Moto GP. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/motor-racing-f1-owner-liberty-media-set-to-take-over-motogp-sky-reports/ar-BB1kQfRl?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=549f0a81d58c4b939b3bdb6c1b8d4e08&ei=45 How long until we get...

Fiki

Not exactly F1 news but there is a link. Liberty set to take over ownership of Moto GP. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/motor-racing-f1-owner-liberty-media-set-to-take-over-motogp-sky-reports/ar-BB1kQfRl?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=549f0a81d58c4b939b3bdb6c1b8d4e08&ei=45 How long until we get...

Fiki

The fact that he tried to get rid of Horner. I'm not so sure that's what was really being tried. I would get nervous if Jos started to talk negatively about the one person in all of this turmoil who is truly indispensible: Adrian Newey. You deny that Jos tried to get rid of Horner. https://metro.co...

Fiki

Do you think that drivers should drive in a predictable manner? This is the essential question that is being asked. I think that brake testing and moving in braking zones should not be allowed. Fair enough, it is a valid stance in this discussion. I think unsettling another driver by lifting premat...

Fiki

Maybe someone should tell Jos that. What makes you think Jos Verstappen doesn't know that? The fact that he tried to get rid of Horner. I'm not so sure that's what was really being tried. I would get nervous if Jos started to talk negatively about the one person in all of this turmoil who is truly ...

Fiki

I think Hill has a point though and as others have pointed out, the fact that Russell crashed played a major role in the Stewards handing out a penalty. Are drivers no longer permitted to try to wrong-foot others? It's so obvious that outcome determines punishment, a driver avoids a brake test then...

Fiki

We dodn't know what's happening with Verstappen, Red Bull have to be worried about what Jos wants, who runs the team, the Verstappens? Horner seems to think it's him, when drivers look to think they run the team, that the team can't be successful without them then the team might look to weaken thei...

Fiki

Marko doesn't have to sign for Mercedes for Verstappen to go there. clearly. at the moment there are all kinds of "reports" that Verstappen to Merc is a done deal. no way that has happened right now, for next year. how ugly do you think it gets if Jos tells RB his son wants out? I'm guessing it get...

Fiki

Came here to see just how strongly Fiki would be defending the indefensible Alonso, wasn't disappointed. I missed your reaction (answering another post I think), but glad I didn't disappoint! :D But seriously, I'm still not really convinced by the penalty, in view of the stewards' explanation. Or p...

Fiki

t2jd1967 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:12 pm

Fiki wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:49 am

t2jd1967 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:34 am
What may tweak my perspective is that Renault was not considered a top team before 2005 (except for back in 1994 and 1995 of course),
Do you mean Renault as engine supplier in 1994 and '95?
No, I meant the former Benetton team that eventually became Renault.

I see. Thanks.

Fiki

t2jd1967 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:34 am
What may tweak my perspective is that Renault was not considered a top team before 2005 (except for back in 1994 and 1995 of course),

Do you mean Renault as engine supplier in 1994 and '95?

Fiki

Yes I am saying that and he touched his brakes on a place on the track where you shouldn't have to even slow down, what they said was the main slowing was lifting off and down shifting. But still you said that Alonso did a brake check... Just for giggles, was it? I think I can because he touched hi...

Fiki

4. Despite having telemetry data which I'm sure could prove a throttle issue Aston Martin have decided not to defend their driver. We don't know what was discussed but didn't make it into the stewards' report. And Aston Martin didn't protest the penalty, which is not the same as failing to defend y...

Fiki

Yes that's what I watched, it mysteriously appeared after Russell crashed, how come that was wasn't used in defence of Alonso, maybe because it was not actually true. If it wasn't actually true, then how was Alonso able to fake it? Answers on a postcard for the lucky draw! :D Staccato application o...

Fiki

Diplomacy Alonso touched his brakes where you don't normally look to brake. So you're saying that the stewards are diplomatic about Alonso not having done a brake check, even explaining that it was not the main reason why Alonso's car slowed, yet giving him a penalty equal to a drive-through. Is th...

Fiki

4. Despite having telemetry data which I'm sure could prove a throttle issue Aston Martin have decided not to defend their driver. We don't know what was discussed but didn't make it into the stewards' report. And Aston Martin didn't protest the penalty, which is not the same as failing to defend y...

Fiki

I wonder what we might make of Alonso trying to say he had a throttle peddle problem immediately after seeing that Russell had crashed, wanting it confirmed by his engineer, strangely he had no such problem before the corner, that quickly seems to have melted away. It seems there was a problem with...

Fiki

It was a brake check causing another driver to crash for me I would have black flagged him out of the race. Of course you would, but on what grounds? Even the stewards don't agree with you calling it a brake check. Here's how the stewards describe that is wasn't a brake check: Telemetry shows that ...

Fiki

I think calling it a brake test is a little unfair, even if it technically was one. The spirit of what Alonso was doing, wasn't to brake test Russell in the way we understand the term brake test. I've no reason to disbelieve Alonso, his recount seems like what he was trying to do, and what happened...

Fiki

I think calling it a brake test is a little unfair, even if it technically was one. The spirit of what Alonso was doing, wasn't to brake test Russell in the way we understand the term brake test. I've no reason to disbelieve Alonso, his recount seems like what he was trying to do, and what happened...

Fiki

20 second penalty for Alonso. Drops to P8. Wow, that's a far more major penalty than has been handed out recently. It was a brake check causing another driver to crash for me I would have black flagged him out of the race. Of course you would, but on what grounds? Even the stewards don't agree with...

Fiki

I think calling it a brake test is a little unfair, even if it technically was one. The spirit of what Alonso was doing, wasn't to brake test Russell in the way we understand the term brake test. I've no reason to disbelieve Alonso, his recount seems like what he was trying to do, and what happened...

Fiki

Brake test or whatever, its poor from a pro driver in that scenario to panic at the helm and go off..he wasnt that close In other news, alonso gets twice the penalty that max got for jeddah 2021, a far more obvious amd dangerous move. Alonso did similar in defense on hamilton hungary 2021 turn 1 ex...

Fiki

20 second penalty for Alonso. Drops to P8. Wow, that's a far more major penalty than has been handed out recently. It was a brake check causing another driver to crash for me I would have black flagged him out of the race. Of course you would, but on what grounds? Even the stewards don't agree with...

Fiki

Brake test or whatever, its poor from a pro driver in that scenario to panic at the helm and go off..he wasnt that close In other news, alonso gets twice the penalty that max got for jeddah 2021, a far more obvious amd dangerous move. Alonso did similar in defense on hamilton hungary 2021 turn 1 ex...

Fiki

Sainz is in a slight predicament imo.... I wonder if Mercedes is worth going to considering their yearly struggles to understand their car. Red Bull seat no. 2 is the sole seat in the top teams made for a no.2 driver as per position in the team. Even if Sainz is given an equal opportunity, getting ...

Fiki

UnlikeUday wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:55 am
Panic in Russell's voice & expectedly where he was stuck hanging....

I hear urgency in his voice, not panic. I would even say, anything but panic.

Fiki

This is the crucial bit. If's and but's. They way they dealt it though, Logan's frustration is a certainty. Logan won't feel happy about it, that's a certainty. But I think the team should make him understand that he largely saved the team's weekend. I'm astounded by the number of mistakes we see t...

Fiki

Siao7 & t2jd1967>You're talking about what feels right, and whos fault it is, but those arguments don't have any value in this situation. Formula 1 is big business, and just like it's the managements job to make unpleasant decisions about their employees in any other business, it is also the Willia...

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