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5 s. penalty for Sainz. I thought it was 10 s this season? Absolutely disgusting so he drops just 1 place and not 2 places that puts him 0.178s in front of Hamilton, the reason for investigating after a race is to manipulate the penalty, it just show the stewards can do what they want with wavering...

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Brutknort wrote: ↑
Mon May 06, 2024 6:20 am

UnlikeUday wrote: ↑
Mon May 06, 2024 3:25 am
Verstappen handled it better due to his God like skill set.

Indeed as he clattered into the chicane bollard damaging his car.

pokerman

Very happy that Norris is a race winner now, lowkey I think he’s the second best driver on the grid. Now he has thinks monkey off his back, I can see him winning a few races this year. I think he's second best purely because of Max's consistency (and Lando bottles too many Q3 results even compared ...

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I see the outrage over the safety car picking up the wrong leader has caused the forum to explode. Oh, wait, this is Red Bull at the receiving end, nothing to see here. P.s. Very happy for Norris to break his duck and he probably had the pace today to beat Verstappen on merit. Wasn't Norris going t...

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purchville wrote: ↑
Mon May 06, 2024 1:23 am
Luckiest win in a long time. Perfect SC timing.
Lets see if he can win one on merit now one day

The fastest driver in the race, Lando's sin seems to be winning the race.

pokerman

Red Bull 2022 had more and stronger competition than Mercedes 2019 at every stage. Ferrari were not a factor after TD039, that took away any competition. Ferrari prior to TD039 was as fast as Red Bull, which they never were in 2019 relative to Mercedes for more than a few races. Races that Ferrari ...

pokerman

I know that a theory goes around here which hypothesises that drivers improve in speed after a few years in the sport. In my view, that theory does not hold up, at least not for the very best drivers. Verstappen was quick from the gate, so were Hamilton, Alonso, Schumacher, etc. The speed is either...

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Red Bull 2022 had more and stronger competition than Mercedes 2019 at every stage. Ferrari were not a factor after TD039, that took away any competition. Ferrari prior to TD039 was as fast as Red Bull, which they never were in 2019 relative to Mercedes for more than a few races. Races that Ferrari ...

pokerman

Which is still noticeably worse than what Verstappen did in a comparable car (2023), and 2019 is worse than Verstappen’s 2022 (again a comparable car). If anything the 2019 Mercedes was definitely stronger than the 2022 Red Bull, and clearly more reliable too, and yet Verstappen finished with a far...

pokerman

Well I admire you're honesty rather than some passive dislike I sometimes see. :) I knew Hamilton when he was a kid (aged 10) in karts, from then on he was arguably, and then undeniably, the fastest driver in his formula, if IMO never the best. I was never a "fan" but always admired his on track pe...

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He won 11 races out of 21 in a season where Bottas won 4 and comfortably finished second in the standings. He lost 4 races to Bottas and crashed out of the lead in Germany, that alone is 16 race wins, without taking into account what race results an inherently faster driver could have flipped. In 2...

pokerman

Well, there is another not implausible alternative of course, that of Hamilton and Russell being on a similar level. Whilst I am not saying that it is necessarily the case, it cannot be discounted completely either. Some posters are trying to have their cake and eat it, it seems. Similar level in q...

pokerman

Whilst I'm not sure absolute top end pace improves I think the race pace absolutely improves these days because F1 is now so much about learning how to manage the tyres through a race. Agree on the tyre management part. But if the speed isn't there on day one it will not magically start to appear a...

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You will remember my position that Hamilton is showing signs of decline similar to Schumacher at the end of his career. already clearly visible last year. The trend is plain for everyone to see, but you have to want to see it. I see mainly a decline in the car which can easily sway people. Hamilton...

pokerman

As I feared really.

pokerman

No penalty for Sainz then after damaging another car causing it to finish outside of the points. Thank you, I'll get on the games scores now. Don't tell the mods I escaped the games forum :-P Oops I should have put a question mark after that. :? Oh. Erm... pretend I didn't just post all the results...

pokerman

No penalty for Sainz then after damaging another car causing it to finish outside of the points. That is crazy. But it does show that the result of the impacts doesn't always decide on the penalty. Alonso got a huge penalty for what he did with Sainz while it was him that suffered, and Sainz got no...

pokerman

Bit of a snap judgement this. Well Lando won the race, with Mercedes what has changed, if Hamilton runs behind Russell he catches him up, if he's in front he drives away, first race where Hamilton has been in front apart from when his front wing was damaged. Which is Hamilton's fault. You can't go ...

pokerman

No penalty for Sainz then after damaging another car causing it to finish outside of the points. That is crazy. But it does show that the result of the impacts doesn't always decide on the penalty. Alonso got a huge penalty for what he did with Sainz while it was him that suffered, and Sainz got no...

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P-F1 Games Master wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 10:37 pm

pokerman wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 10:36 pm
No penalty for Sainz then after damaging another car causing it to finish outside of the points.
Thank you, I'll get on the games scores now. Don't tell the mods I escaped the games forum

Oops I should have put a question mark after that.

pokerman

No penalty for Sainz then after damaging another car causing it to finish outside of the points.

pokerman

A couple of myths bust, Lamdo won't win a race, Russell has Hamilton in his back pocket, Russell got destroyed. Bit of a snap judgement this. Well Lando won the race, with Mercedes what has changed, if Hamilton runs behind Russell he catches him up, if he's in front he drives away, first race where...

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TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 9:55 pm

pokerman wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 9:47 pm

TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 8:07 pm
well, the softs didn't work out for bottas very well.
They put softs on Bottas' car, brainless.
Well, zhou also looked pretty bad on the softs at the end, so maybe they were poor.

The softs were not a good race tyre, did anyone else use them?

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Strider wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 9:44 pm
Really nice to see how popular Lando is amongst his competitors; can't remember the last time half the grid was so excited for someone else's win.

The race has such a feel good factor.

pokerman

A couple of myths bust, Lamdo won't win a race, Russell has Hamilton in his back pocket, Russell got destroyed. Bit of a snap judgement this. Well Lando won the race, with Mercedes what has changed, if Hamilton runs behind Russell he catches him up, if he's in front he drives away, first race where...

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MEF24 wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 9:31 pm
I cant work out team pecking order here. TSU has dropped RUS

Do we think Max has damage on the bull after that bollard incident. We havent seen the manners put on Max over a stint since 21

That's possible he was suffering with understeer but then again that was his error.

pokerman

I think I'm wrong about Norris and verstappen. Verstappen just doesn't have the pace - but noris was very lucky. He was doing a worse job than his team mate until the safety car which was very lucky for him. He got a bad start but it was oh so obvious he was quicker than Piastri, while Norris was a...

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Piastri over aggressive in defence yet again he clipped Sainz's car, coached by Webber, get yer elbows out. Not really, Piastri had to move out the way of the classic Sainz out of control dive bomb An angry Sainz but he's driving for Ferrari with an Italian steward so perhaps nothing to see there.

pokerman

Piastri over aggressive in defence yet again he clipped Sainz's car, coached by Webber, get yer elbows out. How on earth can you blame piastri for that? Sainz went way too deep given piastri was there and had to turn in at some point or just drive off track.... Part of his front wing flew off on th...

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TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 9:07 pm
wonder how well sainz can control himself when he's angry. we will find out.

Thing is with Sainz it's ok if he's over aggressive, if you cant take it...

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TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 8:38 pm
big mistake from verstappen by his standards.

I would say under pressure, not the fastest car.

pokerman

TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 8:07 pm
well, the softs didn't work out for bottas very well.

They put softs on Bottas' car, brainless.

pokerman

130, I'm hoping for average, maybe hang fire on doing the points, Sainz might get a penalty.

pokerman

A couple of myths bust, Lamdo won't win a race, Russell has Hamilton in his back pocket, Russell got destroyed.

pokerman

The stewards can't make a decision, Liuzzi.

pokerman

Note the GP a lot better than the sprint, it brings nothing.

pokerman

So Sainz hit Piastri with the overtake, the stewards need to get involved.

pokerman

Piastri over aggressive in defence yet again he clipped Sainz's car, coached by Webber, get yer elbows out.

pokerman

MEF24 wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 9:01 pm
So basically every driver is defending turn 11 on the inside and pushing the other car off. Is this now a legit strategy?

It's all about the apex although I believe Piastri himself has to stay on the track.

pokerman

Brutknort wrote: ↑
Sun May 05, 2024 8:58 pm
Max went beside Norris under SC restart, which is to be penalized IIRC

It was close, hard to see.

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