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tootsie323

Here's my take. Verstappen was a deserved WDC in 2021 (to be fair, either he or Hamilton would have deserved it - epic season) but the manner in which it was won - in Abu Dhabi - sucked. Whilst it may have sucked in my view (and, as far as I know, it was unprecedented), it was - as Fiki has pointed ...

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I'm, not sure, they have overturned results before, like Brazil 2003. I wouldn't call it overturning a result, but correcting an erroneous one. Apparently a timekeeping error had been made. True, but a result has been changed after the race has ended. In that sense only, we have seen results being ...

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I appreciate that, it's just that the post I replied to mentioned that the FIA themselves would be adjudicating the appeal, and to me it made it sound like they were marking their own homework. This is why I wrote that they actually have taken steps against their own personnel, it is not far fetche...

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I'd like to see those cars around Motorland Aragon but (i) it probably isn't an F1-grade circuit and (ii) it's not near any big city.

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"The rules, as written, did give this opportunity for interpretation. " even this sentence can be spun out of its meaning if I want. You says the rules as written, but what if they are not written but printed ? Anything can be interpreted as anything if you're into "freestyle reading of the rules" ...

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all lapped cars must unlap themselves SC may come in only 1 lap later both of these rules were violated by Masi. there was no more race left legally. and no one can defend against a 5 seconds faster car, stop spinning this nonsense. The rules, as written, did give this opportunity for interpretatio...

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You realise for what your saying above to be true all other teams based in the UK would have to be in on it as well... Given that they would want to know where this mythical tax credit is coming from so they can get one? That's a lot of teams that have to stay quiet over something you'd usually exp...

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Weird decision from Leclerc if true. I think he's making an emotional decision, but also potentially a calculated one. Right now, he has a situation where he'll be able to go on a Verstappen-like run if Ferrari gets the best car. Is he going to get anything better anywhere else? Yes, he could court...

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So Verstappen became unstoppable when the team mate that was regularly his equal left the team... what a coincidence. You mean when a teammate, who got tonked 15-6 in qualifying in 2018, ran away from Max before his 21st birthday because he could see the writing on the wall? But no in 2019 and 2020...

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Do you think Masi sat on the track ? He decided the outcome single handedly. It was a race where Hamilton led all laps, even pulled a huge gap on Max. Masi turned it into a 1 lap cheat circus with Max having 3-5 seconds faster car. Masi did not sit on the track. And it wasn't Masi's authority to de...

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OK, let me reword it for you. In the 96 races before AD when lapped cars have been allowed to un lap themselves, in ALL 96 of those races. ALL cars had been allowed to unlap themselves. This is 100% of the time. In race 97, the race director hand picked cars to unlap themselves for which no reason ...

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So thats an article from 2015 when RB's golden run of 4 straight championships had recently come to an end & Merc had just won their 2nd championship. This was their time after 4 years of RB domination. Why would Merc want to share their technology after all they'd invested to finally get there ? L...

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Hamilton said repeatedly when asked during that period that he would rather have some more competition Asked if supplying Red Bull was a good idea, Hamilton said: "If we are serious about winning the world championship, probably not. "Red Bull are a great team, but it's like giving Ferrari our engi...

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Alright, then explain to us how Hamilton managed to get fully alongside again on the back straight. Simple. Verstappen takes the narrow entry into the chicane which compromises his exit. Hamilton also gets the slipstream along the back straight. Precisely. Because he wasn't driving the supposedly s...

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I'm sure if you asked Hamilton if he'd rather race with a closer field and regs that enable easier overtaking versus the era of his actual dominance with a wider field but very hard to overtake, he'd take the 2022 regs any day. Yes, with 7 WDCs under his belt I’m sure he would. Back when he was win...

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They violated the cap rules in a dozen areas. They declared lots of "innocent" stuff to be outside of the cap in order to spend more money on car development. A team as smart, as sharp, as perfect as RB misunderstands the rules in a dozen different areas? And incidentally always to their advantage?...

tootsie323

Dominant car. Slick team. Relentless driver.
As far as I can see, Verstappen has only been beaten on merit in one race. Saudi, his car failed in quali and he had to recover form 15th. Singapore just did not suit the RBs at all. Only in Baku did Perez genuinely appear to have the legs on his teammate.

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Are you not just repeating what I said and then tarring a lot of other people with the same brush? Well, first, you are like half of this forum by post volume ;) Secondly, years of bias still leaks in all kinds of way like RB having a bad image still. Not years of bias for a bad image the budget ca...

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The 'human error' element from AD21 may well be with respect to acepted practice, or the intent of the rules as written. However, the wording of the rules were of sufficient ambiguity that the events that did take place could be explained within these rules. My take on this is that's where a legal c...

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Unbelievably consistent driver + unbelievably consistent team + reliability + a little bit of luck = Verstappen's epic streaks. Hamilton's streak >4 breaks: 2014 4 streak: Beaten on merit by Rosberg. 2014 5 streak: Beaten on merit by Rosberg. 2016 4 streak: Beaten on merit by Rosberg. 2016-17 4 str...

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I think it's sad some fans now see this as a 'normal' option. And in this specific case, risking your own car to risk your only chance of a win this season, seems very unwise to me. Perhaps Charles noted last year how Hamilton failed to retain his only chance of a race win in Brazil. It's not the "...

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I believe he outqualified Norris 8-7 post-Spa. I see I just collect my data differently and don't include wet qualifying that being said I have it at 5-5 including the sprint qualifying, I guess I'm just more focused on the average which changed very little. So yes I overlooked that but if we take ...

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It is feasible that both the Red Bull has been arguably the most dominant car and that Max Verstappen has been the most relentless driver. I don't see why one should diminish the other.

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Interesting analysis in part 1 of a 8 part series by this youtuber who has done alot of research on Abu Dhabi 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H17qtkGGC80 I'm not even midway through the first video and - despite me feeling that Hamilton was wronged - I'm immediately getting the impression tha...

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Another great job from Leclerc in Q3. I didn’t think the Ferrari had anything close to front row pace throughout qualifying today. I think he’s outqualified Sainz every race since Singapore. :thumbup: Same with Hulkenberg; I expected Magnussen to dominate him this year but he has put Magnussen enti...

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Strider wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:50 pm

tootsie323 wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:28 pm
Why don't they all just get off their high donkeys and have a nice, civilised, discussion over tea and fariycakes?
The misspelled fairycakes gives you away

Pants - me and my big fat fingers...

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Sainz causing problems for drivers driving slowly just off the racing line giving drivers on fast laps perhaps problems to commit, this I've brought up before drivers not leaving as much room as they could, it sounds like Sainz is well known for it, I'm not sure how much it's a game to be played. S...

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Why don't they all just get off their high donkeys and have a nice, civilised, discussion over tea and fariycakes?

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2008 and 2021 are not comparable incidents at all. One involves an error made by an official (which, let's not forget, the team had every opportunity to contest but chose not to, as they perhaps rightly guessed they had no chance of winning that one) whereas the other involves a proven case of chea...

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The thing with precedent is, that there is a first for everything. I did defend Masi, and continue to do so. But I disagree with many that resolving 2008 opens the door to "resolving" 2021, for the simple reason that the regulations allowed what Masi did. Whether Ecclestone was correct about the an...

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The difference between Verstappen & Perez's rear wings: https://i.postimg.cc/qMRp1H27/F-d62-PZWc-AAk8cq.jpg Source - Postimage I am sure that comes down to Perez’ preferences rather than anything untoward. I was thinking that this pays testament to Verstappen's ability (at least, in relation to Per...

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2008 is a very weird year if look into the performance of the drivers. You could make the argument that the none of the best performing drivers that year finished in the top 3 of the final standings. For Massa was his best year though while for Raikkonen (his teammate) and Hamilton (his main rival)...

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Lewis recently felt the need to describe him as someone who only won one WDC, inferring some status difference. I could elaborate but suffice to say that a true champion is graceful in defeat. Look at the bit I put in bold. They were far from friends by 2016. I also don't think Hamilton has been th...

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I guess the tipping point, in respect to driver replacements, will come with retirements. Alonso and Hamilton stand out in terms of this (41 and 38 respectively) with Hulkenberg having just turned 35.

... unless, of course, we see another Piastri in the junior series (anyone like that out there?).

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You liked his disrespectful reaction to the stewards, it doesn't need swear words to be considered disrespectful. I did speculate whether this was more of a backhanded dig at the penalty itself. The expectation was that Verstappen would simply build the necessary gap (I was quite surprised when tha...

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Was annulling the 2008 Singapore GP mandatory? I was under the impression that it was one of the options available (had it not been swept under the carpet at the time). In other words, even if this had been more transparent, it was not a given that the race would be declared void.

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Shows how much respect he has for the stewards and their enforcement of rules - namely: zero. But I am sure the stewards felt grateful and honoured by it. :lol: 8) I have to say I liked his reaction far better than anything needing the bleep button. You liked his disrespectful reaction to the stewa...

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Max is so aloof these days "Give them my regards" Shows how much respect he has for the stewards and their enforcement of rules - namely: zero. But I am sure the stewards felt grateful and honoured by it. :lol: 8) I have to say I liked his reaction far better than anything needing the bleep button....

tootsie323

"On a charge"
followed by
"Battle is joined"
followed by
"Problems"

I miss Murray...

tootsie323

While I am not going to move it, I would encourage posters to drop discussion of Max Verstappen, the 2021 season, and cheating in F1, from this thread. Neither Verstappen or Hamilton is going to be found at the bottom of any list of F1 WDCs. Thread locked while the split occurs, after which it will...

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