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by GingerFurball
Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum opinion on Max / Kimi overtake
Replies: 162
Views: 44322

Re: Forum opinion on Max / Kimi overtake

Raikkonen has left more than enough room for Verstappen to stay on the track.
by GingerFurball
Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum opinion on Max / Kimi overtake
Replies: 162
Views: 44322

Re: Forum opinion on Max / Kimi overtake

mikeyg123 wrote:Interesting Nico Rosberg thinks no penalty.
We have countless examples from his career to prove that Rosberg doesn't understand the concept of wheel to wheel racing.
by GingerFurball
Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum opinion on Max / Kimi overtake
Replies: 162
Views: 44322

Re: Forum opinion on Max / Kimi overtake

and there were other examples of overtakes also exceeding the track limits it means the precedent had been set. What were these other overtakes? If we're talking precedents then Verstappen's punishment was actually pretty lenient. A drive through/20 second penalty tends to be standard when you over...
by GingerFurball
Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

GingerFurball Looking back this race you see many drivers going off track with four wheels while doing an overtake. Why that was allowed and Max his action on Kimi wasn't is the thing people talk about and want to have this cleared up for future races to come. It's like being in class and the teach...
by GingerFurball
Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

@MDS Excuse my poor written part about the rules, yes this is clear to the drivers. But if they are so clear why the inconsistency? If they get that right and use the rules to enhance the experience for the viewers and to make it clear to the drivers what they can or can't do there is no problem. L...
by GingerFurball
Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:06 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Button on Hamilton and Alonso
Replies: 231
Views: 51414

Re: Button on Hamilton and Alonso

Frankly, Button was lucky to not find himself beaten by 100+ points in 2012. While I agree Lewis was superior in 2012, Button had serious setup issues for a number of races, which severely affected his performance. I don't think the race results are a true reflection of their relative performances ...
by GingerFurball
Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:00 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 US Grand Prix
Replies: 39
Views: 9444

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 US Grand Prix

Verstappen is getting far too much praise for finishing 1 place ahead of his absolute worst case scenario.
by GingerFurball
Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:56 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Comments on Perez vs Ocon, anyone? Perez all bullish over the team radio and then pretty much gets humiliated by Ocon? I have this feeling that Perez is starting to feel a bit insecure over Ocon being so close to him. In the beginning of the season he was better but since Monaco Ocon has outscored ...
by GingerFurball
Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:51 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Pretty open-and-shut penalty, from my point of view. Max couldn't have made the pass without leaving the track, he wasn't forced off track, and he didn't return the position. How is that not a penalty, honestly? Because it goes against the precedent set in 2016 where Verstappen can do whatever he w...
by GingerFurball
Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:43 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: COTA Best Over Take Of The Race
Replies: 45
Views: 10424

Re: COTA best over take of the race

Zoue wrote:Got to be Vettel on Bottas. Contender for overtake of the season
Sainz on Perez for me.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

This was turn 1.... https://twitter.com/Cla_Cottingham/status/922218324460793856 The response will be here that it's turn 1 and first lap and that that's the reason. In the replies to that tweet is also the example of Sainz passing Perez and doing the same thing as Max, and nothing was done about t...
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:45 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

lamo wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Max didn’t have all 4 wheels off the road?

Maybe I need to see more angles but it looked from the outside view he did not have all four off. Looks like he did on the on board but you cant see the rears.
I suggest getting your eyes tested.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Which other driver left the track with all 4 wheels and made a pass? Bottas over Ricardo early in the race and then Bottas also did it to Verstappen - IIRC Vettle did it to Bottas when he squeezed between him and Vandoorne..... PS (added) - NBCSN will reply the race @ 8PM, check it out again then.....
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

F1nut wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:Which other driver left the track with all 4 wheels and made a pass?
Bottas over Ricardo early in the race and then Bottas also did it to Verstappen - IIRC Vettle did it to Bottas when he squeezed between him and Vandoorne.....
Vettel stayed on the track for that one.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:32 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Why is the FIA inept at enforcing track limits?
Replies: 74
Views: 13959

Re: Why is the moronic FIA inept at enforcing track limits?

guardiangr wrote:Did anyone else completed a pass outside the track limits and didn't get penalised at this race? I'll answer it for you, no.
Bottas arguably. Would need to see the onboard to pass proper judgement, but driving off the track at turn 1 vs Ricciardo on lap 2 certainly helped him maintain his position.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

'I hope no fans come to this race next season.'

Super mature Max Verstappen, ladies and gentlemen.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

@MasterRacer You must be a very fun guy to watch F1 with. Arrogantly boasting? You really see it that way? Then it's going to be a one way conversation I guess. This is pure racing amd that's what we like to see. We can talk about the penalty, and I understand the idea behind the penalty, but this ...
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:21 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

zaar wrote:
mcdo wrote:Mark Webber on Channel 4 is priceless :lol:
Would you mind to enlighten us with some quotes? ;)
'It was a sh*t decision'
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

pokerman wrote:I think people are missing the point about cutting a corner to pass another car including Horner the politician.
Horner's got a point about Bottas.

I'm pretty sure Webber and Coulthard would feel differently if they had been on the receiving end of Verstappen.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Looked like a slam dunk penalty to me. I agree all the other off track driving should have been punished too though. Yeah I posted yesterday that turns 9 and 19 at this circuit are an absolute farce with the way drivers are allowed to just run miles off the track on corner exit. There's a differenc...
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Haha that was total WWE style. Max turns round and Kimi's just standing there.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

sandman1347 wrote:BS! That should not be a penalty. No way!
You can't allow drivers to overtake by cutting corners.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Invade wrote:Sorry, but Bottas really flopped.
Couldn't even set fastest lap on Ultras at the end.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:39 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Alienturnedhuman wrote:
GingerFurball wrote:Overtake of the season from Sainz.
I see that and raise you Verstappen on Kimi.
Sainz stayed on the track.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Hahaha for f*ck sake Max.

Actually looking at the replay he's cut the corner.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Nice move from Vettel.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:24 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Feels like Ferrari might have pulled a Barcelona 2016 here.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:14 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

My God, Raikkonen actually overtook someone.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Intriguing.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

'tell Esteban to pick up the pace'
*Ocon drives 4 seconds up the road
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:01 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Perez is a whiny so and so. Can't stand him.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Overtake of the season from Sainz.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Can't wait to see Raikkonen get swallowed up by Max.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:45 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Go Honda
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:41 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

I swear Ben Edwards watches a different race to the one that's actually going on.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:32 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Daniel :(
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:18 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Bottas will get penalised here, he retook his position on lap 2 by driving off the track.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Anyone still think picking Renault over Honda is such a mistake?
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

Bottas overtaking off the track there. Hooray for concrete runoffs.
by GingerFurball
Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:01 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 528
Views: 79437

Re: 2017 US Grand Prix Race Thread

They've American'd the f*ck out of this :lol: I can't decide if I love this or hate this. I couldn't handle this every time, but it's kinda fun as a one off. I love it. It will be repetitive as chocolate fudge cake to watch on TV but it's a bit of fun and theatre for those actually at the circuit.