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by WHoff78
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 German Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 511
Views: 40651

Re: 2019 German Grand Prix Race Thread

But shouldn't the team pay the price & not the driver. For once I found this penalty of a fine to be fair as it isn't Leclerc's fault when told to exit the pit box. Like I say show me a precedent for this? Precedent or no Precedent do you really want teams deciding that a placd or two gained and a ...
by WHoff78
Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 German Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 168
Views: 22151

Re: 2019 German Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Side by side lap of Hamilton and verstappen was great to see. Such fine margins between the two.
by WHoff78
Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 German Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 168
Views: 22151

Re: 2019 German Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Why twice? Baku was an engine problem, not a strategy call. Who builds the Ferrari engines again? ;) The thing I couldn't help but remember when Leclerc's engine gave up, was that during Schumacher's astounding reliability run (ending at Suzuka 2006, if memory serves), just about all technical prob...
by WHoff78
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Regs
Replies: 129
Views: 28585

Re: 2021 Regs

Let's just hope that with so many different ideas on the table they don't get distracted by the teams and end up doing nothing. They really need to set there priorities and make some steps in the right direction. Seems like the priority should be the aero shift to ground effects so hopefully they ca...
by WHoff78
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 British Grand Prix
Replies: 50
Views: 8655

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 British Grand Prix

What a fantastic race. Some impressive drives up front too. Fantastic defensive driving from Leclerc under a lot of pressure from Max - good opportune move out of the pits and great overtake on Gasly. Verstappen was great too I thought. Heaped pressure on Leclerc for a number of laps, and Vettel. He...
by WHoff78
Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:08 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

I have given plenty of reasoning - it hasn't changed. It is ok that you disagree. The trouble is what length of time is reasonable - 2s? 1.5s? Its to subjective. The stewards took there time because max completely pushed the boundary and new what he was doing. But he was still following the corner w...
by WHoff78
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:56 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

As I said. That is where people disagree.
by WHoff78
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

I do not think he forced him at all. He got the inside line and decides which line to take and make it difficult for Charles. Charles has to go around him and there was no place for it. If they had given penalty I think it would be bad of the sports. It was a racing incident and drivers should be e...
by WHoff78
Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rules and Penalties
Replies: 36
Views: 7637

Re: Rules and Penalties

Revolving Stewards only creates wildly different thoughts on the application of the rule and how they are to be applied. The same thing happens in Law. Different courts interpret and apply the same law differently. F1 needs to have the same Stewards at every event - at least, even if they are wrong...
by WHoff78
Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

Actually the rules simply state that is has to be 'Deliberate'. That word is quite important. Rosbergs actions are very deliberate in that move and imagine that the telemetry is fairly damming. There is no attempt to turn in to the corner.
by WHoff78
Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:02 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

It's not just the acceleration though. Any momentum will take him to the outside of the corner eventually, which is quite different to left or right, but that is a consequence and that is where for me it becomes almost impossible to prove that it is deliberate. Steering inputs, less so.
by WHoff78
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:23 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

You can say urgh all you want but that is where we fundamentally disagree. As I mentioned before if they took your interpretation then i believe it would completely change racing and how the top drivers approach overtaking. I would actually love to see how it played out but I think there would be ou...
by WHoff78
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:06 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

No, looked again, he is always turning to the right. Rosberg did something similar to what you described a few years back and was penalized though.
by WHoff78
Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

Also you say he moves laterally - he does but always towards the apex and away from LeClerc. Just the track turns tighter. Part of the reason it is so hard to proove intent. Anyway, it is what it is. Was a great race and I think most agree the correct result even if we would have preferred a win for...
by WHoff78
Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:51 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

Even it it were that simple though, which most don't agree with by the way (including the stewards - that's a separate point anyway), it becomes so grey so quickly. Many times when this occurs the driver won't accelerate until they hit the apex, they will still be decelerating and right on the racin...
by WHoff78
Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:55 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

If you don't have the previous lap then how do you prove that Max's action was deliberate? Even with that, apparently both drivers took more speed into the corner the second time round, which would result in taking more of the track on exit, so again how do you prove that the crowding was deliberate...
by WHoff78
Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

Yes, particularly with lap 68 being the perfect example of what Max should have been doing. Exactly! This is what gets me about the argument, or when people claim that 'Leclerc would never have been able to hang it around the outside anyway'. It's not some sort of hypothetical; literally that exact...
by WHoff78
Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

I find it interesting that there are such interesting lines being drawn here. With this incident and the Vettel one last race, we find some screaming for the the strictest application of the "rules" as it applies to one situation, but willing to accept less in the other. Personally, I would apply "...
by WHoff78
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeClerc?
Replies: 393
Views: 55684

Re: Should Verstappen get a penalty for his overtake on LeCl

Have to agree that they reached the right decision for me. Smart racing from max and I'm definitely not a fan. You just can't penalize when they leave no space on exit unless you are absolutely certain that it was deliberate which is almost impossible when its a skilled racer. I think it's good that...
by WHoff78
Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:25 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Austrian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 153
Views: 26585

Re: 2019 Austrian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thre

It's kind of a unique track. Power is important with the straights and elevation change but thought downforce plays a big factor to due to the high altitude...tough to call.
by WHoff78
Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 20618

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Not sure how you control the weather though, wouldn't you have to find a venue with guaranteed rain on race day? Asked the question as much to generate some conversation other then the Vettel 5s penalty which has probably run enough. The Paul Riccard circuit has a world-class watering system and th...
by WHoff78
Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:57 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 20618

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

There's been talk of randomized sprinklers to spice things up in the past, which is probably a non-starter, but could they make France a 'wet' race unless weather forecasts called for rain in the session anyway. Could set it aside from other races, or just a non -starter?
by WHoff78
Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Canada 2019: Vettel Penalty Uberthread (merged)
Replies: 372
Views: 49892

Re: Mario Andretti on the Vettel penalty:

To a certain extent, consistency is what we make of it. As I recall, when Andrew Scott-Gilbert was a very conscientious permanent steward, there were a great number of race fans getting upset at seeing the rules applied so rigidly. I always read his reports with great interest. Excuse my ignorance ...
by WHoff78
Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:14 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Canada 2019: Vettel Penalty Uberthread (merged)
Replies: 372
Views: 49892

Re: Canada 2019: Vettel Penalty Uberthread (merged)

I'm fairly confident that many on here who claim this was a racing incident, have also claimed in the past that a driver defending the outside line at a corner should leave a car-widths space on corner-exit to promote racing. So when in control a driver should reduce speed sufficiently on approach,...
by WHoff78
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Canada 2019: Vettel Penalty Uberthread (merged)
Replies: 372
Views: 49892

Re: Canada 2019: Vettel Penalty Uberthread (merged)

I'm fairly confident that many on here who claim this was a racing incident, have also claimed in the past that a driver defending the outside line at a corner should leave a car-widths space on corner-exit to promote racing. So when in control a driver should reduce speed sufficiently on approach, ...
by WHoff78
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Canadian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 693
Views: 73765

Re: 2019 Canadian Grand Prix Race Thread

Without doubt after making a mistake the priority is probably to maintain your position, some images are quite telling, Vettel looking in his mirror as he squeezes Hamilton towards the barrier, seemingly this was also noted by the stewards. https://racerdigital.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/101754792...
by WHoff78
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Canadian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 693
Views: 73765

Re: 2019 Canadian Grand Prix Race Thread

One thing I am not clear on is whether or not the stewards have the capacity to instruct Vettel to give up the position. That would have been the appropriate penalty in most people's eyes but it's unclear as to whether or not that penalty was available to them. Would that be more appropriate though...
by WHoff78
Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:22 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Canadian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 693
Views: 73765

Re: 2019 Canadian Grand Prix Race Thread

Hamilton was within drs on and off, and right within 1s for several laps before the incident. Vettel made the mistake under pressure, and at best did not have control when coming back across the track with only the wall keeping Hamilton from the overtake. If Hamilton had been further back then he pr...
by WHoff78
Tue May 28, 2019 10:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Monaco Grand Prix
Replies: 163
Views: 23851

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Monaco Grand Prix

Max for me, easily. The Merc’s monster traction meant he could get close enough where it mattered but otherwise he put immense pressure in Lewis and the engine made the difference in the end I don't know anyone could vote for max when he almost took out both Mercedes in the race. Does make more sen...
by WHoff78
Tue May 28, 2019 5:25 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Monaco Grand Prix
Replies: 163
Views: 23851

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Monaco Grand Prix

Always some good entertainment value on here. I can just imagine the reactions if Hamilton was held up behind someone on the wrong tyre choice for 60 odd laps. Confident he would get crucified by many praising Max. Each to their own though I guess.
by WHoff78
Sat May 11, 2019 3:16 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 154
Views: 27355

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Expected Merc to hold the advantage this weekend, but after practice with Ferrari's 3 tenths of the pace they feel like more of a threat. Defies logic I know but that's testing/practice for you! Bringing the new engine this early though I think it will be short lived even if they do have a resurgenc...
by WHoff78
Tue May 07, 2019 9:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: When will Ferrari ACTUALLY have the advantage?
Replies: 66
Views: 13721

Re: When will Ferrari ACTUALLY have the advantage?

There are clearly very tight margins at the top and Mercedes clearly have the right attitude and approach to make sure they keep developing the car and extract everything come race weekend. We are 4 races into new regulations so there is still a long way to go in the season, not to mention 2020. Fer...
by WHoff78
Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:44 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rumor: Mazepin in talks to buy Willaims F1
Replies: 20
Views: 5640

Re: Rumor: Mazepin in talks to buy Willaims F1

if they would sell a 49% share or some significant portion wouldn't it make sense to sell to a MFG? There are still a few sniffing around F1. Porsche(VW), Then you have Ford and GM with the ownership of F1 by Liberty we are hearing some interest by both into F1 especially if we have 2-3 GP's in US....
by WHoff78
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Best F1 driver ever?
Replies: 465
Views: 74679

Re: Best F1 driver ever?

You can argue both ways, but at the same time only one of these drivers keeps delivering and answering the critics year on year. We really need to wait until they retire for the full picture but beating Vettel in the Ferrari last season is right up there. Every season that goes by its harder to arg...
by WHoff78
Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How strong do you suspect the current new wave in F1 is?
Replies: 100
Views: 12983

Re: How strong do you suspect the current new wave in F1 is?

Since when did judging a driver towards the end of their career become rewriting history?
by WHoff78
Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:58 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Best F1 driver ever?
Replies: 465
Views: 74679

Re: Best F1 driver ever?

You can argue both ways, but at the same time only one of these drivers keeps delivering and answering the critics year on year. We really need to wait until they retire for the full picture but beating Vettel in the Ferrari last season is right up there. Every season that goes by its harder to argu...
by WHoff78
Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Are the hybrids reaching the convergence point?
Replies: 105
Views: 14920

Re: Are the hybrids reaching the convergence point?

Are you sure that the disparity between manufacturers and the rest is really due to the PU’s or due to Mercedes coming in and changing the rules. They have excelled across the board since 2014, including their budgets, forcing the competition to up their game or get left behind.
by WHoff78
Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Are the hybrids reaching the convergence point?
Replies: 105
Views: 14920

Re: Are the hybrids reaching the convergence point?

Completely agree with poker – changing the engines would be introduce massive costs and a new race to develop the most efficient/effective solution, probably at the cost of some of the current manufacturers, which will more than likely lead to a few more seasons of dominance as one team get it right...
by WHoff78
Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:50 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Renault & McLearn leapfrog Red Bull
Replies: 30
Views: 8610

Re: Renault & McLearn leapfrog Red Bull

These power rankings on the teams make for interesting reading...one can only hope

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... hTV3W.html
by WHoff78
Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Charles Leclerc Thread
Replies: 124
Views: 29468

Re: The Official Charles Leclerc Thread

Agree that his out and out pace should be evident from the off if it is there, but the consistency of performance and decision making under pressure in those key race moments is where you would expect him to struggle or at least not be on the same level as the top drivers immediately (look no furthe...