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how good was Button in his rookie season? Mag did better this season than Button did in his 1st. If you want to compare them, compare them as rookies he didn't beat Ralf Schumacher and was replaced by the team mid-season :) nexy year at Benneton, he lost to his teamate. So how many seasons did it ta...

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I agree that Red Bull pushed the boundaries during their years of dominance but it's still expected. F1 and FIA needed to catch them with the flexing wing but didn't. And I agree there was nothing underhanded with Mercedes, they put more money and manpower into it and did a better job, which is the ...

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I haven't got any goggles on, what was the reason? Vettel cheating or Renault cheating? I guess Ferrari didn't put a foot wrong in the race? I would ask you to take your goggles off and look at this, you don't built your rep with actions like that, I'm sorry, but you just don't. Those are the action...

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Ferrari was preoccupied by Webber and Petrov was faster than Alonso due to new engine

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no one, that is why you cannot tell me that Button will perform better than Kmag next season, just like I can't tell you anything about next season and be 100% sure. Too bad we will (probably) never get another chance for Kmag and Button to go head to head next season.

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I agree we need to wait for next year, and the fact that teams have improved relative to Mercedes is a good thing so let's see if the field can get closer next year before everyone starts changing everything again. Mercedes just got it right and now the other teams are looking for other solutions to...

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Don't forget Red Bull were never faster in a straight line than McLaren, Ferrari, Mercedes and some others. They did brilliant engineering and aero work. I have heard Merc will be even faster next year and agree that the FIA will try and stop that. One team dominating in F1 is not interesting for a ...

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Alonso's rep has been in steady decline in my eyes, ever since he couldn't overtake Petrov. Before that he was the guy finally beating Schumi, took 2 titles off him, was 'on the rise', but soon got the reputation that he is also somewhat of a crybaby, whiner, etc. The McLaren year proved that too be...

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I don't want to see her in a Williams racing but the media is keeping such a focus on her, that I think they're trying to get women more into F1, it could be even Bernie's idea. She might even score a point, who knows? I'm not sexist either, and if it's time for women in F1 so be it, as long as they...

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I can see that point, and I agree Button is a safer bet for consistency in points, but we cannot know how well KMag would do next season if he were given the chance....he might even beat Button, no one can say that he can't as we don't know what will happen in the future. Look at Ricciardo, moved fr...

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no, I'm not basically saying anything, don't put words in my mouth.
This whole thing is out of control and every statement contradicts achievements of other drivers.
One driver wins because of the car, and other cause of his talent, and yet another because he 'peaked' that season.

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I am pretty sure they will eventually put her in a race car to fill in for Massa or Bottas. Why else would they be advancing her this way? Think of the headlines across the world, the attention Williams would be getting...Isn't her husband also the manager of Bottas?

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Even though Hamilton did that, I don't see him as a cheat, but I know he isn't averse to something like that, just like all the other drivers and teams. McLaren, Ferrari, Renault, Red Bull and others have all cheated somehow. But again, these teams are not seen as cheaters, nor are drivers. But gett...

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116956 Boullier acknowledges that Button's form, allied to his experience, makes him the obvious choice - but he says that other factors are just as important too. AUTOSPORT understands that McLaren Group CEO Ron Dennis would prefer Magnussen to remain be...

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Honda has a big say in this, and they have no beef with Alonso, in the end McLaren is a business and to pass on one of the greatest talents in F1, whilst having a mediocre lineup, would be ridiculous and no one would hear the end of it, especially as revenge over something that happened in the past.

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ahh, sorry, I did get it mixed up. I know he lied to the FIA, but if it's between lying or grassing on your on team mate then I'm not sure which road I would take either. Probably lie if I think I can get away with it. Alonso would have grassed them out ;) He still lied on that occasion, but that do...

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Luweus Hammyltoun lied to the FIA investigation knowingly, may be that's not cheating but he was on that occasion a liar, lying about his teams advantage. I certainly wouldn't expect him to grass them out willingly.
But all the top drivers have been caught out in a lie here and there.

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I want to see more battles, even Hamilton and Rosberg wasn't as often enough to really excite me, what I enjoyed the most was perhaps Ricciardo showing us what a motivated driver can do in a lesser car. I would like to see more of that, a rookie getting a chance for a win here and there, and for McL...

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how is it respect when you can't even spell his first name? it's only four letters

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how will he ever be ready for Button will be on McLaren until he is 65 and no longer of a legal age to work. When can a rookie show more over a single season that Button has over a decade? Therefore no rookie will be ever 'better' than Button. You just have to move on after a certain age and let som...

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not after one season but whenever the domination of one team starts to put people off and even less new fans are recruited. I think that's the whole point, so awaken the interest of people so that F1 will have fans in 10 years time. What is slightly better at Merc is that I believe Rosberg will be W...

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There's more than 2

Ron Dennis in da club....
If you think there's only 2 people that don't rate Button, well, there's nothing to say really, better get the tissue box out

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Ahh, that's going to be boring, I think something will be done to spice it up. After Ferrari domination the rules and regulations were changed to bring others into the mix After Red Bull domination the rules and regulations were changed to bring others into the mix Does it not seem like the same wil...

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Do you think Alonso & McLaren (assuming Alonso is there) will be able to challenge Mercedes for the win next season? What about Vettel and Ferrari? The past 4 years we saw Red Bull take the prizes, and now Mercedes, so which team will be the next to dominate the sport? I can see Mercedes continuing ...

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Vettel "in red" (well not quite, but still!) http://im.mtv.fi/image/4555612/landscape16_9/1024/576/bdc15045bbec67fb517c2ad51f172814/DL/10-4270880b.jpg Courtesy mtv3 That seems like a worried look He has just heard that PF1 Forumers are as negative about this move as they were about Hamilton's move ...

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the obvious reason is just one man's opinion, but that opinion is being shared by more and more = he is just not that good. We don't need to repeat this thread for all the reason pro and against, I accept a lot of people rate him, but they need to accept that a lot of people don't. A 2nd WDC would h...

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If that's a pic of Seb at his first day at work at Ferrari then I can totally understand his look.

He wasn't told that the guy who hired him was fired and only found out when he came to work! It was probably all down hill from there, hence the look

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that's Lewis' opinion, we all have ours, and some of ours is that he is just not as good as most people make him out to be, and it looks like Team Bosses are seeing it that way too. I think Alonso's opinion on Button matters more at this time, and I mean his true opinion having him as a teammate and...

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I can see Button becoming a Sky F1 presenter and then getting fired for trying to get a drive just like Barrichello

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"But I don't think I'm too far off in saying that Magnussen is long-therm thinking and Button short-term." not at all, this is how I see it too. This discussion will carry on until Button leaves. If he is signed up for next season, doesn't get a podium next to Alonso, what next year? Another 1 year ...

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Rosberg and Hamilton both had the fastest car so I'd say the standout drive was Ricciardo, nobody expected him to be on podiums, and he overachieved in 2014

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if Alonso rates Button as much as he is rated on here, I'm sure he'd have some kind of clause making him number 1. He knows Honda want him, we know Alonso wants no1 status in any team, therefore I think it's something Honda would agree to and perhaps even Jenson was told he'd have to take a paycut a...

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well, then, all I can say is one of sports gravest mistakes is about to happen in that Button is being released. Makes complete sense to me, but I do agree with you guys that Ron shouldn't be so ruthless and let them know, but perhaps they do but it is not official yet.

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Kmag hasn't won a race yet, but it took Button 6 years, so KMag still has 5 years to win a race! KMag is only better than Button because he is younger, probably more driven by his youth and having never even won a race and McLaren could probably develop him nicely along Alonso. How can you say KMag ...

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https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v= ... -yYNRkV84A

it is completely ridiculous but unfortunately very true

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Hamilton, Vettel and Button all won their WDC in a big part because of their car, I admit it. But to me all those drivers showed more than a single season, Hamilton showed he was a fighter in his rookie season, Vettel broke all kinds of records in the same time that it took Button to record his very...

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I don't. I accept Button only won that WDC cause he had the fastest car

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yes I do understand that. I was told here that it's the car 80% so given that Seb has 4 WDC doesn't mean anything as his car drove him to those, same as what happened with Hamilton this year and same as happaned with Button in that single year he was fighting for a WDC. So you really think out of al...

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I think McLaren will sign him, I just cannot see any other reason for them to be treating either of them like that, without knowing. Giben that Button performed in the last race, got points which ended up saving the team money, I can see them repaying that by one year contract

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I don't see why he should not want to move to a midfield team, they could have said the same to Massa, and he's not doing so bad these days, ahead of Button :) better driver? luckier? more talent? There is no reason why Button cannot move to a smaller team and achieve the same, have some faith in hi...

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