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- Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What is more interesting?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3205
Re: What is more interesting?
Listing reasons why races were exciting doesn't refute the fact that they were exciting. It does when the discussion is what 'formula' created the worst/boring season. If Monaco is a highlight don't you think that is telling? Even 2023 had a couple of good races, as will 2024. You can even say that...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:59 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What is more interesting?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3205
Re: What is more interesting?
Monaco was a crashfest, not much more. Its the most boring race of the season, for that to be a highlight of the year is extremely telling of the season. Spa was made interesting by one lap qualifying being wet/dry giving a mixed up grid. Then Schumachers Bridgestones being awful when cold on all t...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:53 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What is more interesting?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3205
Re: What is more interesting?
To qualify my statements, what makes a good season. 1) 50% - Main priority is a title fight for the WDC. Without this the season is dead in the water. Maximum score if it is between 2-3 drivers across a couple of teams. Bonus marks for a constructors battle but its never interested me really. 2) 30%...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:33 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What is more interesting?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3205
Re: What is more interesting?
Monaco was a crashfest, not much more. Its the most boring race of the season, for that to be a highlight of the year is extremely telling of the season. Spa was made interesting by one lap qualifying being wet/dry giving a mixed up grid. Then Schumachers Bridgestones being awful when cold on all t...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:53 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What is more interesting?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3205
Re: What is more interesting?
Monaco was a crashfest, not much more. Its the most boring race of the season, for that to be a highlight of the year is extremely telling of the season. Spa was made interesting by one lap qualifying being wet/dry giving a mixed up grid. Then Schumachers Bridgestones being awful when cold on all th...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:43 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What is more interesting?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3205
Re: What is more interesting?
Maybe not the place to ask this (sorry Mods), but what happened for Schumacher to go from winning 12/13 at the start of 2004 to then only win 1/5 after that? Did he phone it in after winning the title with four races to go? Spa he lost because the very cold track temperatures did not work for the B...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:38 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What is more interesting?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3205
Re: What is more interesting?
2004 is basically how 2023 would be, if every race was Monaco. An overtake is something out the ordinary. But even then fuel loads would still dictate strategy. Montoya on Schumahcer at Spa was a great move for what 4th place, but to have two classic overtakes in an entire season is awful. The overt...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 9:11 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What is more interesting?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3205
Re: What is more interesting?
This is a skewed poll looking for an obvious answer. Luckily that is clear for even the most casual observer. yet you felt the need to state the "obvious" After he/she claimed "it doesn't matter" if there is a wdc fight at a dominating team or not in another thread ... ;) Each to their own of cours...
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:14 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What is more interesting?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3205
Re: What is more interesting?
To me they are (probably*) equally boring if I'm not rooting for that particular team and/or one of the drivers involved. That's not to say that I can't appreciate the greatness achieved by those teams (engineering, drivers, operations, strategy, etc.) in their respective dominant seasons. *I'm a n...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:53 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: What is more interesting?
- Replies: 62
- Views: 3205
Re: What is more interesting?
Would you prefer a title fight or not? Is that even a question? 2023 is the first season since 1999 I have missed multiple races altogether. Its the worst season in the 35 odd seasons I have watched. Absolutely nothing to get excited about and it was so so long, 22 races and 4-5 sprints. 25+ boring ...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:20 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
- Replies: 423
- Views: 25577
Re: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
So Verstappen apparently has an exit clause that can be triggered if Marko leaves. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/motorsports/max-verstappen-red-bull-exit-clause-revealed-following-christian-horner-investigation/ar-BB1jjAzp?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=67051149e048424583c80c0a9cc58112&ei=12 Intere...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
- Replies: 423
- Views: 25577
Re: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
Question marks growing on how the texts get leaked to the Dutch press from someone inside the team, that's a big problem as well It kind of proves that someone senior in Redbull wants him gone. None of the lower staff would dare as I imagine the list of names with access is both short and traceable...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
- Replies: 423
- Views: 25577
Re: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
Anything is possibly with Jos, the guy was charged with attempted murder of a girlfriend by driving a car at her. He also got 5 years in jail (suspended) along with grandpa Verstappen when they attacked a man at a kart track with large metals spanners. Jos own father would file assault charge agains...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:28 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2024 Bahrain Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
- Replies: 181
- Views: 8531
Re: 2024 Bahrain Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
RB may have got it right but Ferrari is close. Lewis could not beat last year's undeveloped RB time. Max only beat it by 0.5, why were the gains for little from last year? Perez was only 0.3 up on his time last year. Differences in tyres? McLaren found 1.8 seconds though. Interesting that Leclerc 2...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:32 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
That has pretty much been confirmed by LDM in the years after. Schumacher did not want to face Raikkonen / did not want Massa to lose his seat. Whilst each driver may believe they are the best on the grid, do you think Verstappen would prefer Perez as his team mate or for Red Bull to sign Leclerc o...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:30 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
I think Schumacher would not have been scared of Alonso either. Did he want either as his teammate? Probably not. Would he run away from them? In my view absolutely not. Well, he vetoed Häkkinen, so ... ;) That does not mean at all that he was afraid of the Finn. Schumacher was probably the first d...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:26 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
That has pretty much been confirmed by LDM in the years after. Schumacher did not want to face Raikkonen / did not want Massa to lose his seat. Whilst each driver may believe they are the best on the grid, do you think Verstappen would prefer Perez as his team mate or for Red Bull to sign Leclerc o...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:35 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
- Replies: 423
- Views: 25577
Re: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
AMUS apparently reporting that a second leak is scheduled for today at the start of qualifying. Interesting times.
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:22 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
- Replies: 423
- Views: 25577
Re: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
Why would he need to beg for forgiveness from Red Bull - honestly what did he actually do that was that bad from the company perspective? The biggest issue is its bad PR but that is not his fault it is the fault of the leak From a business/racing perspective, this will probably blow over. From a pe...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:55 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
- Replies: 423
- Views: 25577
Re: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
Come on people, images of Whatsapp messages, which can easily be fabricated, but no sharing of the actual report? The way it looks to me, someone or some party is out there to get Horner, a hit job so to speak. I have not accessed the images, nor do I intend to. For those of you who think I am defe...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:38 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
- Replies: 423
- Views: 25577
Re: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
The full leak is it out there available for all to see. I can’t see him surviving this. RB should send him home early tomorrow for his own sake, it’s going to be a circus. It’s clear he has made a few enemies and people are after him.
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:42 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Perez Teammates
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2365
Re: Perez Teammates
Perez rode two waves into top teams, the 2012 hype at Sauber where he excelled on tyre saving and got some big results but ultimately was very close with KK. Secondly the 2020 season and race win propelled him into the Red Bull seat - aided by having the 2nd best car on the grid and Lance Stroll as ...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:34 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
That has pretty much been confirmed by LDM in the years after. Schumacher did not want to face Raikkonen / did not want Massa to lose his seat. Whilst each driver may believe they are the best on the grid, do you think Verstappen would prefer Perez as his team mate or for Red Bull to sign Leclerc or...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:27 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Max vs Teammates
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4121
Re: Max vs Teammates
My bad, I miss read your post. That can also be prone to being highly skewed especially over 2014-2016 Nico VS Lewis. All of Lewis' finishes in 2014 total 23, where as Nico in the final race finished 14th. Lewis average 1.27 Nico average 2.52 Nico average without AD - 1.71 So one result skews everyt...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Max vs Teammates
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4121
Re: Max vs Teammates
Genuine question, is Max slower during the first 4-6 races of the season or is Perez quicker in this period? I have always thought that Ferrari looked so strong at the start of 2022 (first 4 races) was in part to Max not being his usual self and once he had the big gap to Perez Ferrari never domina...
- Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:14 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Max vs Teammates
- Replies: 58
- Views: 4121
Re: Max vs Teammates
Genuine question, is Max slower during the first 4-6 races of the season or is Perez quicker in this period? I have always thought that Ferrari looked so strong at the start of 2022 (first 4 races) was in part to Max not being his usual self and once he had the big gap to Perez Ferrari never dominat...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:22 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Michael Masi. 1 Year on.
- Replies: 2029
- Views: 136077
Re: Michael Masi. 1 Year on.
They wouldnt be able to protest officially but would have a big crowd with them complaining about season finishing behind SC and questioning fairness of the results. Basically same as what Mercedes and fans could do, and keep doing... No because Mercedes fans can show that how the race was conducte...
- Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:48 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
- Replies: 336
- Views: 30059
Re: The 100 Greatest of All Time (Update)
My gut reaction is to disagree with this, but it would be interesting to look into a larger sample of drivers in some detail to see if it holds up. I agree, it felt counterintuitive to me too but here is a list of the non useless drivers who made their debut after the age of 24 in the last 25 seaso...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:35 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
- Replies: 423
- Views: 25577
Re: Christian Horner Allegations Thread
January 2024 could place Newey, Horner and Hamilton at Ferrari. Which would be incredible.
Newey left Williams because how they treated Damon Hill, he is a loyal guy. If Horner gets kicked out, I can see Newey leaving too.
Newey left Williams because how they treated Damon Hill, he is a loyal guy. If Horner gets kicked out, I can see Newey leaving too.
- Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:11 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton vs Leclerc
- Replies: 300
- Views: 8319
Re: Hamilton vs Leclerc
It's often mentioned, that Leclerc is the fastest driver on a single lap, but honestly, how cares? You don't win races - or championships - by being fast on one lap. He's got a poor conversion rate between pole position and race wins, and I believe Hamilton will take advantage of that. Leclerc have...
- Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:52 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
I think up until 2014 everyone was still regarding Räikkönen as a very good driver. In hindsight that has proven not to be case over his entire career. At what point we need to make the cut-off is difficult to say. There was evidence in 2010 that might not be the case but put a driver in a very goo...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
Alonso gobbled up Massa and Räikkönen without any trouble and quite honestly Vettel was far from an improvement as his successor at Ferrari. Hamilton lost out to Button and 2022 was also not great, all champions have had a few seasons hardly worth remembering. Edit: grammar. Massa who got beat by B...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:59 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
This also speaks volumes about a champion's mentality and someone like Norris, who this week was harping about, "If I go to Max's team, it's not wise." Hamilton is going to battle someone like Leclerc who, IMO, is as fast as Verstappen, if not faster. And has proven that when given the car, can see...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:43 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
This also speaks volumes about a champion's mentality and someone like Norris, who this week was harping about, "If I go to Max's team, it's not wise." Hamilton is going to battle someone like Leclerc who, IMO, is as fast as Verstappen, if not faster. And has proven that when given the car, can see...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:01 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: So... who replaces Lewis at Mercedes?
- Replies: 285
- Views: 14726
Re: So... who replaces Lewis at Mercedes?
A tricky one, the best four drivers are all taken - Hamilton, Leclerc, Norris and Verstappen. Assuming that Hamilton is still a top driver come 25/26. Russell is in the next batch but for me he lacks that final ingredient to be top level. Maybe he will develop it or maybe it is there but it is hard ...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:54 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
Speculation is as speculation does, but Cesare Fiorio still has a signed fax from Senna that meant he entered into a pre-contract with the Scuderia. I can't say from memory when he intended to go there, but it would be interesting to know whether Senna would have minded driving with Schumacher in t...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:28 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
It has been very quiet indeed on the Massa front. As for the Hamilton to Ferrari move; in a way he does what Senna was in the end unable to do, though he fully intended to do just that. The irony is most fascinating; had Senna gone there, Hamilton would now possibly be trying to beat his record num...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:20 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Michael Masi. 1 Year on.
- Replies: 2029
- Views: 136077
Re: Michael Masi. 1 Year on.
I don't think people would have even contemplated what Masi did as even a possibility, therefore there would be no discussion to be had. I don't think anybody post race would say "why didn't Masi hand select the cars between Max and Lewis to unlap themselves. Ignore the the SC waiting 1 lap after th...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:10 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
How do Ferrari fans feel? It is an upgrade on Sainz, I think most will agree and driver wages aren't in the spending cap so no loss there. If I was a Ferrari fan I would feel it a bit uninspiring brining in a 40 year old Lewis. They needed him 7-8 years ago. It would weaken Mercedes and make them st...
- Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
- Replies: 472
- Views: 20897
Re: Hamilton to Ferrari for 2025 Season
Reading through the thread I believe there's a lot of over-thinking going on. Dolomite has nailed it for me. Hamilton has decided it's almost time to retire and wants to live out his wish to drive for Ferrari in F1 before he retires. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course I could also be being incre...