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Does seem a strange thing to say, tbh. It's not "his" data: it's the team's. And if the team thinks that using that data will help maximise both cars' finishing potential, then why shouldn't they use that? Bit of attention grabbing here, I think Welcome, hang tight my friend. You will soon be backe...

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I'm finding this a bit disingenuous, tbh. You're the one who attacked the other poster for his views, yet you're upset because people can't debate civilly? We can have a good debate about this. Just don't turn it into a "you must hate Hamilton" thread and problem solved I am not upset. I do find th...

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Does seem a strange thing to say, tbh. It's not "his" data: it's the team's. And if the team thinks that using that data will help maximise both cars' finishing potential, then why shouldn't they use that? Bit of attention grabbing here, I think Welcome, hang tight my friend. You will soon be backe...

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Hamilton, and every driver in Formula One is part of a team. Leading up to the race itself, the TEAM work in unison to tune the car and maximize it's performance. For a driver, it is understandable they are selfish and want to win. I fully support that mental position ... for the race. For the team...

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Hamilton, and every driver in Formula One is part of a team. Leading up to the race itself, the TEAM work in unison to tune the car and maximize it's performance. For a driver, it is understandable they are selfish and want to win. I fully support that mental position ... for the race. For the team...

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Hamilton, and every driver in Formula One is part of a team. Leading up to the race itself, the TEAM work in unison to tune the car and maximize it's performance. For a driver, it is understandable they are selfish and want to win. I fully support that mental position ... for the race. For the team...

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I also wrote that Lewis was actively selling himself at the time, which is why we got the situation we did. Schumacher was dithering, Lewis became available, Mercedes moved to secure his services. That was the sequence of events. You make it sound as though Mercedes' success was contingent upon Lew...

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Specifically is pretty much impossible to do without access to medical records. But if you completely rule out age having any kind of impact upon driver performance then I suggest you are not being realistic. How many 40 year old drivers are on the grid? Do you think it's coincidence that the major...

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Would those that don't consider Hamilton one of the GOAT change that opinion if he won another 3 easy titles at Mercedes? Hamilton seems to care more about his legacy (in an emotional sense) than any other driver I have seen. I think he would see winning a championship for Ferrari as so much more v...

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When is that American lightning due to hit? Lewis has been in F1 now for nearly ten years and I have yet to see it, but what do I know... I am but an American who attended every USGP in Indy and the first 2 at COTA. 11/10, despite your 2004 registration, you come across as one who's F1 experienced ...

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Would those that don't consider Hamilton one of the GOAT change that opinion if he won another 3 easy titles at Mercedes? Hamilton seems to care more about his legacy (in an emotional sense) than any other driver I have seen. I think he would see winning a championship for Ferrari as so much more v...

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Would those that don't consider Hamilton one of the GOAT change that opinion if he won another 3 easy titles at Mercedes? Hamilton seems to care more about his legacy (in an emotional sense) than any other driver I have seen. I think he would see winning a championship for Ferrari as so much more v...

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You don't think that Hamilton was a bigger name than Schumacher mk2 the driver that finished behind Rosberg every season, there is a reason why he was given that name, and who are these other top names that Mercedes could have signed? Not even close. Michael Schumacher - call him Mark II if you wan...

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except I never said it was a slam dunk of any kind. But why let facts get in the way of a good strawman, eh? :uhoh: With regards to Brawn, you should l consider his ACTIONS rather than his WORDS. When a man visits another in his kitchen to discuss anything other than food, that is an act of despera...

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And here we go again... the bi-annual Schumi faced a week field, nothing as tough as Nando, Seb, Lewis et al. I repeat what Zoue was saying... how do we know that it was a weak field? Does it make any sense that we would go from one of the strongest fields in F1 history with the likes of Senna, Pro...

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And here we go again... the bi-annual Schumi faced a week field, nothing as tough as Nando, Seb, Lewis et al. I repeat what Zoue was saying... how do we know that it was a weak field? Does it make any sense that we would go from one of the strongest fields in F1 history with the likes of Senna, Pro...

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Even though Nico has presented his reason for retiring as mainly due to achieving his childhood ambition of becoming WDC, I believe, the truth is that he fled because of the futility of beating Hamilton and because he couldn't bare the humiliation of losing. Many drivers have been left scratching th...

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Yes, I would have to agree with your assessment of Vettel who has really not demonstrated, with any consistency, the highest levels of ability outside of his drives in the fastest car, unlike Hamilton that has won every year and especially in 2008 without the best machinery. Sure, he's won. But he ...

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;) Yes, I would have to agree with your assessment of Vettel who has really not demonstrated, with any consistency, the highest levels of ability outside of his drives in the fastest car, unlike Hamilton that has won every year and especially in 2008 without the best machinery . Ah, these statistics...

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Actual at end of 2016 Hamilton 31 y.o. Wins 53 Poles 61 Races 188 Vettel 29 y.o. Wins 42 Poles 46 Races 179 Alonso 35 y.o. Wins 35 Poles 22 Races 274 Interesting that Hamilton has only done 9 more races than Vettel given the wins and poles differences, the last 3 years have not been kind to Vettel....

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Win rates are affected by so many things. It's pretty hard not to win in the Mercedes at the moment. Once Lewis had established himself as the quicker Mercedes driver, it was all over bar the shouting. He's had a 50/50 chance of winning any given weekend since 2014 and, given he's faster than Rosbe...

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I don't think Schumacher ever had the 'off times' that Hamilton had in 2011, 2013 (beaten by team-mate, not adapted to car-team) or the early part of 2016. Like the other great drivers from Fangio to Senna, Schumacher always performed at his best. Schumacher's return career in 2010-2012 showed his ...

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Win rates are affected by so many things. It's pretty hard not to win in the Mercedes at the moment. Once Lewis had established himself as the quicker Mercedes driver, it was all over bar the shouting. He's had a 50/50 chance of winning any given weekend since 2014 and, given he's faster than Rosbe...

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Very interesting, but being in one of the most dominant cars in history, in some of the longest seasons ever, will skew the figures this way. True, just a couple of seasons back and Vettels and Hamiltons %ages were reversed. More informative when the pair of them leave the sport. The interesting st...

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Very interesting, but being in one of the most dominant cars in history, in some of the longest seasons ever, will skew the figures this way. They all had dominant cars. If the Driver were not a factor then Mercedes would quite simply put Pascal Wehrlein in the other car - but they do not! Put some...

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Hamilton's probably only got another 5 years and I don't see him likely to get 40 wins in that time. Don't forget that Schumacher's average is brought down by his Mercedes stint. I'm comparing win rates and qualifying them with the competition under which they were obtained. Both Schumacher's win r...

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While Schumacher's absolute number of 91 wins might never be equaled, Hamilton at win rate of 28.19% might be able to approach quite close to Schumacher's at 36.4% (29.54% after F1 return) which is still the highest of the modern era. I believe that the premature death of Senna hurt Schumacher's leg...

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one more time.... Merc did not cost Lewis the WDC at AB. Quite right Mercedes cost him the WDC over the entire season blowing up his engine on the most impregnable car Mercedes have ever built. The bias of the Mercedes team orders in AB was just a culmination of the team favoritism which manifested...

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I believe Scumacher would have easily won in the McLaren, both in 2007 and 2008. There is no data to support that statement without qualifying which type of driver would have been Schumachers teammate in the McLaren and also taking into consideration how F1 evolves over time. Schumacher was a throw...

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dizlexik wrote:So who is going to drive for McLaren if Alonso is gone. Button?

Pastor Maldonado!

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Here is the Link: http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/38219533 also: http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10685109/mercedes-considering-fernando-alonso-to-replace-nico-rosberg One of the issues which I have wondered about is why Lewis Hamilton is the only multiple WDC that does not care who he race...

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Here is the Link: http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/38219533 also: http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10685109/mercedes-considering-fernando-alonso-to-replace-nico-rosberg One of the issues which I have wondered about is why Lewis Hamilton is the only multiple WDC that does not care who he races...

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If Mercedes play fair and stop blowing up Hamilton's engines there is not a driver on the grid that can better Hamilton. If Alonso couldn't put Hamilton away as a rookie, I wonder what makes people think he can do so now. I woudn't even be close. I see some already making excuses talking about it be...

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I know Hamilton said "Its tough being my teammate", but this is ridiculous. First he broke Alonso and now Rosberg both fled from the heat of competition.

Can someone please tell me what is "brave" about Rosberg's decision? I thought brave was runing into a burning building to save a helpless child.

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Lewis Hamilton was brilliant this season. Despite the "NON-RANDOM reliability issues" still the best driver in F1 by miles.

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Perhaps Toto Wolf and Lowe who are responsible for rigging the outcome of the 2016 F1 season should look inward to how they have compromised Lewis Hamilton at every step during this season. It doesn't matter how reliabiable a car Mercedes build but nobody seems even capable of explaining why one out...

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Turned out they don't have a procedure for getting off this forum. :!: Congratulations to Nico - well earned. This has been a good year for him. He and his wife have their first child. He rescued a child from the sea. He followed team orders and went against his own interests to allow Hamilton past...

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What amazes me is how much Mercedes had to sabotage Lewis in order to deliver the WDC to Rosberg and yet Rosberg won by only 5 points while losing both number of races and qualifying - sums up what has happend here.

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I expect this to change in the comming years and it should be interesting to see how it plays out. Button and Schumacher of course are done. Kimi can only keep losing.

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