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There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strengths and weaknesses. The only similarity is that Verstappen was the best driver in both seasons. But yes, the whole “comfort ...

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There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strengths and weaknesses. The only similarity is that Verstappen was the best driver in both seasons. But yes, the whole “comfort ...

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I don't see why it has to be Russell. We don't know how good Antonelli is yet. Well that comes from Wolff, Antonelli is the Verstappen they missed out on unless it seems he can get Verstappen himself. As I said earlier today if they can get Verstappen then everything Wolff has said prior can probab...

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Verstappen would absolutely enhance his legacy by going to a different team and proving he can do it outside of Red Bull. There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strength...

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KingVoid wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:40 pm
No amount of gaslighting from Verstappen detractors will convince anyone with a bit of intellectual honesty that a guy who matched Nico Hulkenberg over 3 years is a bad/slow driver and noticeably worse than Bottas.

At Mercedes Bottas never had a car that he struggled to drive.

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Our debate is not if Bottas is better than Max, but him being better than Perez, and Perez paints Max good with his inability. Long story short: 2021 was Bottas' worst against Lewis, he was unmotivated and sacked, obvious why you picked it for comparison. Dont know how Max beat Bottas in 2020, when...

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Verstappen would absolutely enhance his legacy by going to a different team and proving he can do it outside of Red Bull. There is almost no similarities between the 2019 Red Bull and 2023 Red Bull, these are two totally different cars build under different regulations, with very different strength...

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Everyone who wants Max to “test” himself will get it soon enough, as the rumours are that he is joining Mercedes. I do wonder what the excuses will be when he inevitably turns Russell into another Albon. For starters the Mercedes won't handle like a Red Bull plus Newey won't be around, those advant...

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Obviously not ideal for either driver but nobody can complain if they're let go for an upgrade. Well it would have to be Russell then wasn't Antonelli supposed to be the Verstappen that got away or maybe not if they can get Verstappen himself. I don't see why it has to be Russell. We don't know how...

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In my opinion Verstappen is currently obviously the best driver. I have little doubt. Fair enough if you disagree though. It's always impossible to know 100%. If one looks at the two burdens of proof from the US legal system -- preponderance of evidence (civil cases) and beyond a reasonable doubt (...

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Is there a driver in F1 history that we never found out completely. I can not think of one. You just have to be patient enough and it all works out. There was a time when Kimi was the fastest man in F1 and Schumachers replacement. That ended when he switched teams. There was a time when Vettel was ...

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That's pretty pejorative language. Mercedes wouldn't be treating either of their drivers unfairly by signing someone better. So I wouldn't describe it as that. They both are supposed to be the future of Mercedes, it's not really a good look for Russell. Obviously not ideal for either driver but nob...

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That would be a good move for Ocon and hopefull leave room at Alpine for Martins if he picks his form up off the floor. I think Doohan is first in line. As of now definitely. I believe Martins to be more talented though so would rather they skipped over Doohan for him provided he can get his F2 sea...

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Got to be ruthless. F1 isn't a charity. If they're fine with losing Hamilton because they have Antonelli on the way then they'll definitely be OK with whoever out of Russell or Antonelli performs the worst for Verstappen. So like I said about being thrown under the bus. That's pretty pejorative lan...

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I think Bottas will stay if Sainz says no. They are also interested in Ocon. That would be a good move for Ocon and hopefull leave room at Alpine for Martins if he picks his form up off the floor. I think Doohan is first in line. As of now definitely. I believe Martins to be more talented though so...

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Russell stays at Merc. Antonelli gets a few years at Williams. There could be a logistics problem, how long do Mercedes wait on Verstappen making a decision, he certainly won't be driving for Mercedes next year, in the meantime what do they do with their drivers, pairing them up immediately means o...

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Who does he replace in Sauber? I think that Bottas and Zhou both unlikely to be retained next year. I think Bottas will stay if Sainz says no. They are also interested in Ocon. That would be a good move for Ocon and hopefull leave room at Alpine for Martins if he picks his form up off the floor. I ...

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Verstappen going to Mercedes is what I was indirectly referring to. Supposedly, Newey is unhappy with the power struggle taking place behind the scenes at Red Bull. im confused about max going to mercedes,what happens to george(new team leader) and antonelli(the protoge) Russell stays at Merc. Anto...

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This is awesome news. Newey definately doesnt fit in with red bulls bs, this is like Galen Erso escaping the empire. Does that mean Newey will now engineer a critical flaw into the RB21 that will allow his next team to defeat them? It'll be interesting to see what happens for sure. Every other time...

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mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:53 pm
Another thought... Will Newey be allowed to walk into another team or will he have a contract he has to wait out?

I've heard 1 years gardening leave.

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How about Verstappen following Newey to Ferrari with Leclerc suddenly being free on the market alongside Sainz? Verstappen and Hamilton of all people as teammates in Ferrari. Wow. No, that isn't going to happen. But then again most of us would have said the same about Hamilton to Ferrari just a few...

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mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:05 am

t2jd1967 wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:57 am

Beleriand_K wrote: ↑
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Covalent wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:35 am
Hulk confirmed for Sauber next year.
Who does he replace in Sauber?
I think that Bottas and Zhou both unlikely to be retained next year.
I think Bottas will stay if Sainz says no.

They are also interested in Ocon.

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This is massive if true. If this happens, I can see Verstappen leave Red Bull too. 1783494391702683656 How about Verstappen following Newey to Ferrari with Leclerc suddenly being free on the market alongside Sainz? Verstappen and Hamilton of all people as teammates in Ferrari. Wow. No, that isn't g...

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This is massive if true. If this happens, I can see Verstappen leave Red Bull too. 1783494391702683656 How about Verstappen following Newey to Ferrari with Leclerc suddenly being free on the market alongside Sainz? Verstappen and Hamilton of all people as teammates in Ferrari. Wow. No, that isn't g...

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Newey’s new 90ft Oyster yacht is being delivered this year and he has made no secret of the fact that he wants to sail around the world with his family before he gets any older. This has been known for a long time and I just wonder how much that figures in Newey’s future plans (I suspect more than ...

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BBC reporting it now as well, although that could just be Andrew Benson doing his usual thing of parroting other reports. I reckon he'll go to Aston Martin. The idea of him joining Lewis at Ferrari is fascinating but I find it hard to believe that, at 65 years old, he's going to up sticks and move ...

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This is massive if true. If this happens, I can see Verstappen leave Red Bull too. 1783494391702683656 How about Verstappen following Newey to Ferrari with Leclerc suddenly being free on the market alongside Sainz? Verstappen and Hamilton of all people as teammates in Ferrari. Wow. No, that isn't g...

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This is massive if true. If this happens, I can see Verstappen leave Red Bull too. Question is does Alonso get lucky (Aston Martin) or Hamilton (Ferrari)? 1783494391702683656 Apparently he is contracted to Red Bull until 2025 then there would be a year's gardening leave so any new team he joins wou...

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The 9-6-4-3-2-1 system also included dropped rounds, normally a season was 16 rounds but only 11 rounds counted, they decided that all the rounds should count and then added an extra point for a win emphasising the importance of winning races. I'd luckily forgotten about the dropped rounds. But loo...

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Well Norris won't be champion. It's true but totally irrelevant. Have race wins been significantly devalued? Under the 9-6-4-3-2-1 system second place was worth 66.6666r of first place. Under the current system second place is worth 72% of first place so only slightly more. None of this is relevant...

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I think he's confused between Jesus and Ben Hur. Obviously you are attacking me personally, because I said something about your favourite driver you didnt like. Grow up. I should have added a smiley, my apologies. And don't worry, you haven't even come close to mentioning my favourite driver. :D Al...

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Obviously you are attacking me personally, because I said something about your favourite driver you didnt like. Grow up. I should have added a smiley, my apologies. And don't worry, you haven't even come close to mentioning my favourite driver. :D Shouldnt have went personal dude apologize for that...

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Driving is one part of greatness but a very important part. I don’t see anything Lewis does better than Max at actually driving the car. I don’t think he’s as quick, or as relentless, or as consistent. Sprint qualy china, the moment rain fell down, Max fell to 4th. He is not the 2nd coming of jesus...

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Sprint qualy china, the moment rain fell down, Max fell to 4th. He is not the 2nd coming of jesus. Good explanation for that. Look how gentle Red Bull is on it's tyres. Although obviously he isn't literally the second coming of Christ.... As far as I know. I think he's confused between Jesus and Be...

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This depends how you define closeness. Norris is much closer to Verstappen in terms of % of points scored. He is only a little closer in terms of results required to actually catch Verstappen. I.E making no material difference in terms of an actual championship. Norris doesn't gain anything at all ...

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Actually the material gap between them (that the whole purpose of the points system is designed to reflect) is pretty similar... As of now Norris is two race wins and a little bit behind Verstappen in the WDC. Under the old points system Norris would be two wins and a half behind Verstappen. So not...

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This is a fine point of view to have. What I struggle to understand is both having this opinion AND liking the 9-6-4-3-2-1 system which did almost the exact same thing as the current system which you don't like. The WDC under the previous 9-6-4-2-1 system and taking out the sprint and fastest laps ...

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Obviously it comes down in many ways to luck. You lower the points on offer and it's going to for the teams who don't score often because you've got so few data points. Yep, I took an exceptional year but the data you've provided also shows us that the 10-6-4-3-2-1 system in place then does roughly...

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How else would merely finishing get you points? This is something that doesn't happen anymore but used to. I think the points system has had to expand to continue to do the same job as reliability has improved (and drivers crash out far less often). In 1989 with points down to sixth place 29 driver...

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You mean because of reliability? Still you would have to be top 5 or top 6 to score points every year before 2003. How else would merely finishing get you points? This is something that doesn't happen anymore but used to. I think the points system has had to expand to continue to do the same job as...

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