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51, I guess a complete train wreck for everyone.

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On reflection going from last to third place on such a difficult place to pass after the cock up at the start was a really good result for Hamilton, if the undercut on Ricciardo and Max fails then that just doesn't happen and it was really close, 2 or 3 more laps I think he wins the race but I very ...

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So Mercedes told Hamilton more raining was coming, another fail for the strategy team with a win thrown in the bin. I noticed Hamilton hadn't received the no blame culture memo :lol: Were other drivers given the same information? I'm not saying he's wrong. Oh I see what you mean now, I guess he sho...

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Lance Stroll 5 place grid penalty as well.

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Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:25 pm

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:24 pm
Is Stroll really just going to be let off again?
Yes. I am surprised nothing has been mentioned as yet. After the Bottas carsh, Charles could have come out in second after T1.

They probably took the view that Bottas triggered everything that came after.

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mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:23 pm

pokerman wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:22 pm
So Mercedes told Hamilton more raining was coming, another fail for the strategy team with a win thrown in the bin.
I noticed Hamilton hadn't received the no blame culture memo

Were other drivers given the same information?

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mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:21 pm

UnlikeUday wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:18 pm
Max was completely handicapped due to driving a broken car. It was worth claiming 1 point.
Hamilton would have parked that car for sure.

Probably a valiant effort by Max to get a point.

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So Mercedes told Hamilton more raining was coming, another fail for the strategy team with a win thrown in the bin.

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JN23 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:16 pm
Well Russell finally gets points, but Latifi got more

Big day for Williams, pleased for them.

Just Russell's luck it happens like that, chances are that Latifi finished above him in the WDC.

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Alonso hit Hamilton there :lol: :lol: :lol: Leaving space on the outside approaching a corner doesn't include banging wheels Alonso left space. Find someone who agrees with you and I'll take it seriously. In my view it's the best defensive drive I've seen in years. Sainz Only lasted a lap. Sainz ty...

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mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:00 pm

pokerman wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:59 pm
Alonso hit Hamilton there

Leaving space on the outside approaching a corner doesn't include banging wheels

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Alonso hit Hamilton there

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What kind of gap do you need to pit and clear a car?

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From what I can see best place Hamilton can finish is 4th.

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Yeboah24 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:04 pm

pokerman wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:00 pm
lucky for Hamilton, game on now.
Lucky?

It was close.

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lucky for Hamilton, game on now.

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purchville wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:43 pm
Hamilton brain fade IMO

I would say it's always been a weakness in his game.

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It might have been Hamilton's call after all, I must admit that wouldn't surprise me either.

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I repeat again the Mercedes strategy team are so bad made to luck good by often having the best car.

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The great Merce4des strategy team got to love then, too scared to make a decision yet again.

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I'm watching the replay and see nearly every car leaving a sensible gap to the car in front under braking, Bottas simply didn't do that it was terrible driving given the conditions, Stroll probably also did the same .

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F1Tyrant wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:19 pm
If Verstappen pulls a win from here, has to be the best since Canada 2011.

Which needed luck with multiple safety cars.

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You've got to laugh. Bottas his usual wet weather self. This isn't going to improve relations between Mercedes and Red Bull. Given past precedents (Grosjean Spa 2012) that could be a ban for Bottas. They will take into the track condition, are we not entertained though wet race grid starts, this is...

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You've got to laugh. Bottas his usual wet weather self. This isn't going to improve relations between Mercedes and Red Bull. Given past precedents (Grosjean Spa 2012) that could be a ban for Bottas. They will take into account the track conditions, are we not entertained though, wet race grid start...

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I know it's more exciting but this is one reason why they stopped grid starts for wet races, I suggest SC start for the restart just in case.

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Grid penalty for Bottas next race for me.

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Looked like a bad mistake by Norris at first but Bottas took them all out.

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Cross referencing my numbers which are in brackets.

Leclerc 0.205% (0.177%)
Max 0.503% (0.51%)
Norris 0.469% (0.432%)
Vettel 0.074% (0.093%)
Alonso 0.076% (-0.032%)

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Just like vettel has not shown the same speed In anything other than a Redbull car designed by Newey. I don't normally defend Vettel but this is totally wrong. He was back to his best from 2017-mid 2018 and showed flashes of brilliance in 2015. The lengths some people go to trying to deny Verstappe...

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They haven't spent a year in a championship contending car yet. You think this years Red Bull will ever be described as not being a championship contending car? I'm sure it will but it hasn't been yet. You're early definition was a driver leading the WDC, Max has lead far longer than Kubica ever di...

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Is it the first time this season Bottas has out qualified Verstappen? 2nd time, Bottas was on pole in Portugal. Impressive speed from Mercedes today. I thought I may be forgetting a pole from Bottas. Nevertheless I think that's probably the strongest we've seen Merc all season. I think I agree when...

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Fate can be a funny thing. If Max Verstappen had never laced up a pair of driving boots, then Daniel Ricciardo might still be at Red Bull, widely regarded as an absolute top tier talent that has just never quite had the equipment capable of beating Hamilton and Mercedes. When a driver is struggling...

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I think this (Q in Hungary) is the first demonstration of the underlying strength (and improving package) of the Merc. I think the championship is back in Mercedes (and Lewis's for WDC) hands for them to lose. I don't see Red Bull ultimately strong enough - they've beat Mercedes more often this sea...

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In the last 10/12 years a few. Since 2010 - Vettel Webber Alonso Massa Hamilton Button Raikkonen Grosjean Rosberg Bottas Since 2014 it's been extremely few though. Just 5 in fact Vettel, Raikkonen, Hamilton, Rosberg and Bottas. And three of those had already been in championship contending cars. Si...

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When assessing his whole career I'm not sure how much of a factor a handful of races are? Kubica isn't being punished here. I'm not saying Ricciardo is better. He just doesn't qualify in that category. I'm assuming the likes of Leclerc and Verstappen will get a championship contending car at some p...

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How much slower was Hamilton compared to his previous out-laps? Wasn't any slower, where he really did the damage was in the pit lane as the clock does not start till you leave the pit lane. Which is immaterial because he still caught back up to Bottas, Max was clearly after a tow from Hamilton as ...

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I'm not talking about looking better than they do this year with Russell. I'm talking about if they look better next year with two decent drivers than they would do with one decent driver and Latifi. Could they finish higher up in the WCC if they do? Could they raise their value in the stock market...

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News on Verstappen’s engine.. a few bits have been changed as allowed within the regulations. It’ll be run on Friday to check it’s viability as a race engine. Don't like the sound of this.. Imagine if Verstappen lost a further 25 points due to the crash :? It isn’t something I’d take the risk on pe...

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Closer between Max and the Mercs than I expected thus far, early days though.

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Hungary

01. Verstappen
02. Hamilton
03. Bottas
04. Perez
05. Leclerc
06. Norris
07. Sainz
08. Ricciardo
09. Alonso
10. Gasly

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