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The old system use to be:- tier 1 - the best(s) drivers tier 1b - not quite the best but good enough to be world champion if circumstance allowed. tier 2 - strong #2 drivers at top teams tier 3 - midfield drivers deserving of F1 tier 4 - shouldn't be in F1 So going by consensus of Verstappen standi...

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It's not based on Q2 times how could it be when Leclerc got knocked out in Q2, he didn't set a time, you have no recollection but you can make counter argument. You base a counter argument with no recollection of what what happened in Baku 2019 to say that Ferrari should have won 12 of the opening ...

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Apart from the four races that Ferrari won in 2022: Charles finished 0.5 seconds behind Max in Jeddah Charles was leading in Spain by 15 seconds when his car failed The less said about Monaco strategy the better Sainz was quicker than Max in Canada and finished in his DRS Charles was leading by 15 ...

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That is okay, Wheatley is not involved in designing the car. Operationally Wheatley is a very clever guy, you think that's not important? Relatively unimportant compared to the design of the car, yes. Also, a function that is easier to replace or recruit. Tell Mercedes that. It has nothing to do wi...

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The old system use to be:- tier 1 - the best(s) drivers tier 1b - not quite the best but good enough to be world champion if circumstance allowed. tier 2 - strong #2 drivers at top teams tier 3 - midfield drivers deserving of F1 tier 4 - shouldn't be in F1 So going by consensus of Verstappen standin...

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So Norris missed the pit entry as the SC was called and the SC missed Norris (I assume he passed pit exit before the SC did?). The SC then picked up Verstappen and effectively extended Norris' gap prior to him pitting next time around. I assume that the SC, having missed Norris, should have allowed...

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Miami F1A races weren't the best.. but then F4 cars on that circuit isn't a recipe for excitement. Looks like Pin is going to have more of a challenge than some predicted. Still only 2 events in. on to Barcelona. I haven't been able to watch Indy NXT this year so don't know how Chadwick is looking....

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If it's current trend then I guess it gets revised every few races.

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Miami F1A races weren't the best.. but then F4 cars on that circuit isn't a recipe for excitement. Looks like Pin is going to have more of a challenge than some predicted. Still only 2 events in. on to Barcelona. I haven't been able to watch Indy NXT this year so don't know how Chadwick is looking....

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Looking at it again I think you have too many tiers... Looking at the state of play as of now I think I would suggest something like Tier 1 - Verstappen Tier 2 - Norris, Leclerc, Alonso Tier 3 - Sainz, Hamilton, Russell Tier 4 - Perez, Hulkenberg, Ocon, Gasly, Bottas, Tsunoda, Albon, Piastri Tier 5...

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Now that Norris has made a big psychological breakthrough by finally winning his first race, I think he will gradually establish himself as the second best driver in the sport. I don’t have much evidence that Norris is better than Leclerc but it’s a hunch from the eye test, difficult to prove thoug...

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Johnson wrote: ↑
Wed May 08, 2024 11:51 am
I am asking, where are the times on the official site. Link please?

https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... nformation

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I just watched it again, Verstappen actually was losing more time than I thought to Norris. On lap 24 he was 9.5 seconds behind. On SC deployment on lap 28, the gap was 11.5 and it gradually grew every sector. He gained 2.0 seconds in 4 laps. Leclerc also gained 1.2 seconds in those 4 laps on Verst...

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Isn't he going to be working on a Red Bull project? I can't see him going to any other team. When he left before to work on sailboats he returned to RB, so why not continue the challenge? That's him basically working out his 1 year gardening leave away from the F1 team, if all he wanted to do was r...

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1787438105777037372 Wasn't sure if this should go here or in the silly season thread. Looks like RB is plugging the hole and making sure Newey's departure doesn't lead to a mass exodus. However I've heard that Jonathan Wheatley is looking to leave. That is okay, Wheatley is not involved in designin...

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Mercedes built the Zero Pod concept with full confidence the engineers had a full grasp as to the performance they could expect, but once the drivers went around the track in the car they immediately felt the car was lacking balance and they communicated this to the team, but the engineers assured ...

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Clearly the current drivers cannot extract a great deal of performance from the W15 and they were also struggling with the W14 and the W13. In my view the drivers are unable to drive around some of the unwieldy characteristics of the current generation of Mercedes cars. That leads to a downwards sp...

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Mercedes built the Zero Pod concept with full confidence the engineers had a full grasp as to the performance they could expect, but once the drivers went around the track in the car they immediately felt the car was lacking balance and they communicated this to the team, but the engineers assured ...

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Apart from the four races that Ferrari won in 2022: Charles finished 0.5 seconds behind Max in Jeddah Charles was leading in Spain by 15 seconds when his car failed The less said about Monaco strategy the better Sainz was quicker than Max in Canada and finished in his DRS Charles was leading by 15 ...

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You’re doing a very good job of deliberately missing the point. You listed a bunch of races which Ferrari “should” have won in 2019 and included Baku which is based on very little evidence apart from Q2 times. Then when I make the same argument for 2022, you turn around and claim that I said Ferrar...

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Remind me what happened in Baku 2022. From my memory, Leclerc took pole, lost the lead early, and retired with a car failure, but because safety car timing would have benefited his strategy some people believe he had an outside chance of winning. I think it's a bold statement that Ferrari should (o...

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Funny how Pokerman thinks Ferrari should have won Baku 2019, but when I say the same about Baku 2022, he misinterprets it as Ferrari was quicker than Red Bull in that race. Remind me what happened in Baku 2022. From my memory, Leclerc took pole, lost the lead early, and retired with a car failure, ...

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Mercedes built the Zero Pod concept with full confidence the engineers had a full grasp as to the performance they could expect, but once the drivers went around the track in the car they immediately felt the car was lacking balance and they communicated this to the team, but the engineers assured ...

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1787438105777037372 Wasn't sure if this should go here or in the silly season thread. Looks like RB is plugging the hole and making sure Newey's departure doesn't lead to a mass exodus. However I've heard that Jonathan Wheatley is looking to leave. That is okay, Wheatley is not involved in designin...

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I just watched it again, Verstappen actually was losing more time than I thought to Norris. On lap 24 he was 9.5 seconds behind. On SC deployment on lap 28, the gap was 11.5 and it gradually grew every sector. He gained 2.0 seconds in 4 laps. Leclerc also gained 1.2 seconds in those 4 laps on Verst...

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The starting point to this debate will remain the statement that Ferrari should have won the first 12 out of 13 races. No, that was not the starting point of the debate. The quote I posted from KingVoid is from (near) the top of the previous page. You then listed races Ferrari won or should have wo...

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Again, the phrase was "as fast as RB" not "faster than RB". I think it's been shown that Ferrari was close enough to RB/Max in 11 or 12 of the first 13 races (exceptions being Imola and perhaps Miami) for that comment to be considered valid. Feel free to offer analysis or your reasoning for believi...

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Even as a Verstappen fan, I was very encouraged by the pace of McLaren and Ferrari at Miami. The upgraded McLaren in the hands of Norris looked like the fastest car, while Ferrari was at most 1-2 tenths slower. Miami is a circuit that tests every quality of a car. Top speed, mechanical grip, brakin...

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The starting point to this debate will remain the statement that Ferrari should have won the first 12 out of 13 races. No, that was not the starting point of the debate. The quote I posted from KingVoid is from (near) the top of the previous page. You then listed races Ferrari won or should have wo...

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Again, the phrase was "as fast as RB" not "faster than RB". I think it's been shown that Ferrari was close enough to RB/Max in 11 or 12 of the first 13 races (exceptions being Imola and perhaps Miami) for that comment to be considered valid. Feel free to offer analysis or your reasoning for believi...

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I'm dealing with the Ferrari being faster in 12 out of 13 races not with the Ferrari was faster overall, I believe you've confirmed that there was races Ferrari could not have won because it was not fast enough. Again, the phrase was "as fast as RB" not "faster than RB". I think it's been shown tha...

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I excluded the four races Ferrari actually won (Bahrain, Australia, Austria, and Silverstone) because I didn't think I'd need to illustrate how they could have won those races when they already did so. I think the point was, factoring out reliability (as mikey said, which isn't insignificant), ther...

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True, Max had just gotten to the front and looked to be on his way to a victory when he got a piece of carbon stuck in his floor. There was a late SC that bunched up the field, who knows what would have happened. If you want to say Ferrari wasn't as fast as RB at Silverstone (a race that they start...

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Wellll.....what to say. A brief high followed by the usual low. Points are 14-5 to Tsunoda. Still a lot of season to turn it round, and he is going to have to stay in F1 with the F1 driver merry go round of 2025. Tsunoda is making a good case for staying. If he is Honda-backed though, will this hav...

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Wellll.....what to say. A brief high followed by the usual low. Points are 14-5 to Tsunoda. Still a lot of season to turn it round, and he is going to have to stay in F1 with the F1 driver merry go round of 2025. If it gets to the summer break and not much changes will he still be in F1, his only c...

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I excluded the four races Ferrari actually won (Bahrain, Australia, Austria, and Silverstone) because I didn't think I'd need to illustrate how they could have won those races when they already did so. I think the point was, factoring out reliability (as mikey said, which isn't insignificant), ther...

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this race yesterday was a fine reminder that without the car Max cant win just like everyone in f1, and that he does mistakes too. Counterpoint - Had it not been for a dose of bad luck he may well have won the race without having the best car on the day. Which has little to do with Verstappen makin...

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1786718744732913781 Well only being 17 and not allowed a super license would attest to that. I don't know how credible it is but one journo posted that the FIA had received a request from Williams to grant Antonelli a superlicense before his August birthday. I don't see why they should - it's not t...

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JN23 wrote: ↑
Mon May 06, 2024 8:21 pm
Why was Russell 8seconds behind Tsunoda by the end?

Because he was slow.

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