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by pokerman
Sun May 12, 2024 4:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2025
Replies: 879
Views: 43910

Re: Silly Season 2025

Supposedly, Sainz's opportunity to go over to red Bull is over as Red Bull are wanting to renew Perez's contract. The Mercedes offer still stands but it's for 1 year as Mercedes want Antonelli to eventually drive for them. The only long term deal is from Sauber but they've given him till Monaco Gra...
by pokerman
Sun May 12, 2024 3:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

@pokerman I admire your passion and tenacity. I have no idea how you do it but it must be really tiring to follow Lewis and see/watch people questioning his legacy at every opportunity or holding him to the highest standard or find faults even when there are none. Give it a few years and this same ...
by pokerman
Sun May 12, 2024 3:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Interesting picture; it shows not only why it is never wise to turn in when there is a car alongside on your inside, but it also shows why: because it also shows who benefitted from the outcome. (Hint, it's the car near where the lines meet. ;) ) Verstappen benefitted with the penalty no less, the ...
by pokerman
Sun May 12, 2024 3:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Can you show me where the regulations say a driver has no right to be there? My copy may have a page missing, but somehow I doubt it... That's why KMag got penalised maybe you need a refresher course. I know why Magnussen was penalised, but I would be very grateful if you could show where the regul...
by pokerman
Sun May 12, 2024 11:10 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Now you've stepped into the ring KMag was recently penalised for doing exactly the same thing to Sargeant, behind at the first apex no right to be where he was at the next part of the chicane, thems the rules. https://i.ibb.co/dpnWfXB/N-vtelen-13.jpg Interesting picture; it shows not only why it is...
by pokerman
Sun May 12, 2024 10:59 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

A bit off-topic, but not too much, I trust... 8O Strider, we agree on something! Now, is it you or I who should be worried about this? :D Back to Hamilton ruining Verstappen's Legacy, I say! (I didn't even know Max was allowed to drive a Subaru...) Now you've stepped into the ring KMag was recently...
by pokerman
Sun May 12, 2024 10:54 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Female Racing Drivers
Replies: 3372
Views: 745402

Re: Female Racing Drivers

Remember - when a female is in a race - every male thinks they have bump her whenever possible. Do they bump them in qualifying as well. Every opportunity they get. It's hard to take you seriously. You haven't watched your Daughter-in-law race and win a Championship against men. How did she manage ...
by pokerman
Sun May 12, 2024 10:43 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

First of all Silverstone was red flagged because of the Zhou crash and was restarted on lap 3. Sainz had a 1.365s lead on lap 4, on lap 8 Verstappen was in DRS range, the following lap Sainz made his mistake and let Verstappen past, so this Verstappen being unable to pass Sainz is a bit false as so...
by pokerman
Sun May 12, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Those early laps in clear air you talk about in Canada:- Lap 1 Verstappen to Sainz 1.764s Lap 8 Verstappen to Sainz 2.629s Sainz was unable to get within DRS unlike Verstappen with Sainz at Silverstone which forced the error from Sainz. You know this is misleading. Compare the lap times they were d...
by pokerman
Sun May 12, 2024 10:36 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Vettel was being dropped by Bottas at a rate of 1 second per lap on C4s, so even if Ferrari looked “quicker” on Friday, evidently it did not translate to Sunday. Which wouldn't have happened to the faster Ferrari driver especially if he had qualified on pole plus you're only talking about 10 laps o...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 9:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Female Racing Drivers
Replies: 3372
Views: 745402

Re: Female Racing Drivers

Do they bump them in qualifying as well. Every opportunity they get. It's hard to take you seriously. I have actually observed this behavior at kart tracks. Not so much in qualifying, although if the format is qualifying races then yes, but I have certainly seen girls (usually the only one on track...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 9:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

A bit off-topic, but not too much, I trust... Hamilton getting into a tangle with Verstappen is on him; that incident has been discussed multiple times on here and I disagree it was entirely Verstappen's fault. 8O Strider, we agree on something! Now, is it you or I who should be worried about this?...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 9:43 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

A bit off-topic, but not too much, I trust... Hamilton getting into a tangle with Verstappen is on him; that incident has been discussed multiple times on here and I disagree it was entirely Verstappen's fault. 8O Strider, we agree on something! Now, is it you or I who should be worried about this?...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 9:41 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Ocon won a race, so you're looking to back up the original post, me personally I don't think Alonso not winning a race in a decade affects his legacy beyond not being able to win more titles leaving him on just two. Ocon won A RACE so not races and he won it largely because of some excellent drivin...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 1:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Female Racing Drivers
Replies: 3372
Views: 745402

Re: Female Racing Drivers

Remember - when a female is in a race - every male thinks they have bump her whenever possible. Do they bump them in qualifying as well. Every opportunity they get. It's hard to take you seriously. I have actually observed this behavior at kart tracks. Not so much in qualifying, although if the for...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 1:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

A bit off-topic, but not too much, I trust... Hamilton getting into a tangle with Verstappen is on him; that incident has been discussed multiple times on here and I disagree it was entirely Verstappen's fault. 8O Strider, we agree on something! Now, is it you or I who should be worried about this?...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 1:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

In Canada 2022 there were only a few laps early on when both Sainz and Verstappen were on the same tyres in clear air and in that time Sainz closed the gap to Verstappen by a small amount. Remembering that Sainz was almost always the slower Ferrari driver in 2022 it's reasonable to hold the opinion...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 12:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

In Canada 2022 there were only a few laps early on when both Sainz and Verstappen were on the same tyres in clear air and in that time Sainz closed the gap to Verstappen by a small amount. Remembering that Sainz was almost always the slower Ferrari driver in 2022 it's reasonable to hold the opinion...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 12:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

No wins in 2021 really, how does that work out for a driver like Alonso? Alonso's teammate has not been winning races either. Ocon won a race, so you're looking to back up the original post, me personally I don't think Alonso not winning a race in a decade affects his legacy beyond not being able t...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 12:55 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

No wins in 2021 really, how does that work out for a driver like Alonso? Alonso's teammate has not been winning races either. Ocon won a race, so you're looking to back up the original post, me personally I don't think Alonso not winning a race in a decade affects his legacy beyond not being able t...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 12:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

No he was faster in qualifying as well the practice sessions just showing how he was dominating the weekend he was favourite to win the race. Are we talking just single laps from practice sessions? Or long run data? Because if it's just single laps, no one is really questioning the idea that Lecler...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 12:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

In Canada 2022 there were only a few laps early on when both Sainz and Verstappen were on the same tyres in clear air and in that time Sainz closed the gap to Verstappen by a small amount. Remembering that Sainz was almost always the slower Ferrari driver in 2022 it's reasonable to hold the opinion...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 11:09 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Alonso's teammate has not been winning races either. Ocon won a race, so you're looking to back up the original post, me personally I don't think Alonso not winning a race in a decade affects his legacy beyond not being able to win more titles leaving him on just two. A lucky one and largely thanks...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 11:04 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Miami Grand Prix
Replies: 38
Views: 991

Re: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Miami Grand Prix

Obviously the way he chooses to drive against his teammates that seems to be a pattern, other than that I wouldn't normally be that focused on his driving but obviously I'm going to remember the way he drove against Hamilton at Monaco at one point forcing Hamilton into the barrier for which he got ...
by pokerman
Sat May 11, 2024 10:59 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Miami Grand Prix
Replies: 38
Views: 991

Re: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Miami Grand Prix

What has Ocon done that's dirty? Obviously the way he chooses to drive against his teammates that seems to be a pattern, other than that I wouldn't normally be that focused on his driving but obviously I'm going to remember the way he drove against Hamilton at Monaco at one point forcing Hamilton i...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 1:45 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Hamilton is ruining his own legacy - No Wins - 2021 - 2022 - 2023 and 2024 so far. No wins in 2021 really, how does that work out for a driver like Alonso? Alonso's teammate has not been winning races either. Ocon won a race, so you're looking to back up the original post, me personally I don't thi...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 1:43 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Hamilton is ruining his own legacy - No Wins - 2021 - 2022 - 2023 and 2024 so far. No wins in 2021 really, how does that work out for a driver like Alonso? Alonso's teammate has not been winning races either. Ocon won a race, so you're looking to back up the original post, me personally I don't thi...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 1:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Miami Grand Prix
Replies: 38
Views: 991

Re: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Miami Grand Prix

Yep, I'd agree with that as well. Ocon has a sizable body of work in F1 at this point, and the vast majority of it points to less than optimal teamwork. The only teammate he didn't fall out with was Ricciardo, and that was probably just because Ricciardo had him firmly in hand in terms of pace. Gas...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 1:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Replies: 1643
Views: 182842

Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread

No, why would I do that? Just checking it seemed with the present Mercedes it's little more than being able to drive around problems. That is over 8 years ago. Are you seriously arguing that the situation is even remotely comparable? No I'm talking about today's Mercedes, what you see is struggling...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 1:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Hamilton is ruining his own legacy - No Wins - 2021 - 2022 - 2023 and 2024 so far. No wins in 2021 really, how does that work out for a driver like Alonso? Alonso's teammate has not been winning races either. Ocon won a race, so you're looking to back up the original post, me personally I don't thi...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 1:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Miami Grand Prix
Replies: 38
Views: 991

Re: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Miami Grand Prix

Gasly races the same way, so I don't think you can really put the blame on one over the other. Much like with Perez/Ocon, it takes two to tango. When it first happened with Perez, I put it down to Perez. When it then happened with Alonso I thought "hang on, this is not new". Now it is happening all...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 1:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Replies: 1643
Views: 182842

Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread

It is clear that the correction regulations Red Bulls are struggling relatively more on street circuits. I don't recall that being a trait of the W06? Then again, there were less street circuits in 2015 as well, so perhaps it just didn't come to the fore. So you would also look to blame the Mercede...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 1:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

In Canada 2022 there were only a few laps early on when both Sainz and Verstappen were on the same tyres in clear air and in that time Sainz closed the gap to Verstappen by a small amount. Remembering that Sainz was almost always the slower Ferrari driver in 2022 it's reasonable to hold the opinion...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 10:59 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Miami Grand Prix
Replies: 38
Views: 991

Re: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Miami Grand Prix

What was up with how Ocon and Gasly fought? Ocon as usually did not give a quarter to his teammate. That often ends in tears. I can't understand teams wanting to employ such a driver, who appears hell-bent on beating his teammate above all else, even if it means crashing out. Gasly races the same w...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 10:52 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Replies: 1643
Views: 182842

Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread

Well, this is my take on it and we will have to agree to disagree. The data is not available to prove one right or wrong either way. What I see is struggling drivers, what you see is a bad car. Russell by all accounts is really no better than Albon and therefore one must assume he is not insanely t...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 10:50 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Female Racing Drivers
Replies: 3372
Views: 745402

Re: Female Racing Drivers

mmi16 wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 2:37 am
pokerman wrote:
Thu May 09, 2024 10:27 pm
mmi16 wrote:
Thu May 09, 2024 9:25 pm
Remember - when a female is in a race - every male thinks they have bump her whenever possible.
Do they bump them in qualifying as well.
Every opportunity they get.
It's hard to take you seriously.
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 10:48 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

In Canada Sainz qualified behind Alonso because he made a mistake on his final lap, which in turn also cost him time in the early part of the race. Still he was as quick or quicker than Verstappen once both were in clean air. Not to mention that Leclerc started last because of a penalty, a very win...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 10:35 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

No he was faster in qualifying as well the practice sessions just showing how he was dominating the weekend he was favourite to win the race. Are we talking just single laps from practice sessions? Or long run data? Because if it's just single laps, no one is really questioning the idea that Lecler...
by pokerman
Fri May 10, 2024 10:33 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 1427
Views: 61897

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

No he was faster in qualifying as well the practice sessions just showing how he was dominating the weekend he was favourite to win the race. Are we talking just single laps from practice sessions? Or long run data? Because if it's just single laps, no one is really questioning the idea that Lecler...
by pokerman
Thu May 09, 2024 11:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Miami Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 350
Views: 6304

Re: 2024 Miami Grand Prix Race Thread

mmi16 wrote:
Thu May 09, 2024 9:04 pm
Feature that the VSC was called at the point when Verstappen was past pit in and would not be able to take advantage of it.
Like they waited for him to drive past but no none of the cars close behind him pitted either, we look for the VSC to be called at the best time it suits the leader?