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by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:41 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 229
Views: 13135

Re: Silly Season 2022

I'm just questioning your financial argument of what might be best for Williams when it starts with a financial deficit, you lose $20M from Latifi, you buy out his contract say $10, get in 2 drivers capable of scoring points if Williams can build a points scoring car, another $10M, that's $40M. If ...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How are you going to spend the summer break.
Replies: 6
Views: 203

Re: How are you going to spend the summer break.

In terms of sports, MotoGP starts up again after their summer break and the football season starts this weekend after their summer break, I would be a Leeds United fan. :)
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:14 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

I'd put the spins down to not being used to the car though. How many times as he spun alone this season? 3 is it? I don't remember him doing it that many times in his career before this season. I've gone back through the thread and see your surprise that unlike yourself most voted Bottas above Pere...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

I'd put the spins down to not being used to the car though. How many times as he spun alone this season? 3 is it? I don't remember him doing it that many times in his career before this season. I've gone back through the thread and see your surprise that unlike yourself most voted Bottas above Pere...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:53 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

I'd put the spins down to not being used to the car though. How many times as he spun alone this season? 3 is it? I don't remember him doing it that many times in his career before this season. I've gone back through the thread and see your surprise that unlike yourself most voted Bottas above Pere...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Looking at last years rankings Perez was at #5 and Bottas was at #10, put Perez in a top car and then he drops down to #12 one place below Bottas. https://forum.planetf1.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16165 That’s what I call “Verstappen tax” :) Gasly is currently rated as a top 5 driver of the season on ...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Yeah if I was to be saying whose the best driver in F1. Norris isn't getting first on the list. He probably wouldn't be in my top 4. It's how they've performed this season not whose the best driver and I think most voting have obviously taken that in to account based on Norris position. Then I thin...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Looking at last years rankings Perez was at #5 and Bottas was at #10, put Perez in a top car and then he drops down to #12 one place below Bottas. https://forum.planetf1.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16165 That's a ranking of the drivers in general, not a ranking of their 2020 performance. This is a rank...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:25 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

I'd put the spins down to not being used to the car though. How many times as he spun alone this season? 3 is it? I don't remember him doing it that many times in his career before this season. I've gone back through the thread and see your surprise that unlike yourself most voted Bottas above Pere...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 229
Views: 13135

Re: Silly Season 2022

Literally put IF in the second sentence. To be honest if you make a habit of only reading the first sentence of my posts that explains an awful lot. I'm not sure Williams can go by IF as any kind of guarantee, is that better? No because who on earth is saying that they should? Nothing is guaranteed...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Bottas has been in the team what 3 years whilst Perez is settling in? Perez has also had his race destroyed by the red bull strategist at times. And had a few weird spins which he's never been known for in his career before. He'd also probably be ahead of Bottas in the standings if Red Bull didn't ...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Verstappens average is now 2.2. I'd love to hear from some of the people that don't have him in the top 2 for it to have dropped that far. Everyone that's commented as him either first or second and I can't see any reason to have him outside of the top two. I think we had a similar incident with ei...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Last season in 2 car finishes it was 6-5 between Sainz and Norris. There was little between them. The main difference in the points is the 2nd place finish for Sainz after the red flag at Monza. Would you not agree that Norris looks like he's taken another step forward and that his performances don...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Looking at last years rankings Perez was at #5 and Bottas was at #10, put Perez in a top car and then he drops down to #12 one place below Bottas. https://forum.planetf1.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16165 That's a ranking of the drivers in general, not a ranking of their 2020 performance. This is a rank...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Last season in 2 car finishes it was 6-5 between Sainz and Norris. There was little between them. The main difference in the points is the 2nd place finish for Sainz after the red flag at Monza. Would you not agree that Norris looks like he's taken another step forward and that his performances don...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:05 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Alienturnedhuman wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:49 am
Chandok's Top 5 in order:

Verstappen
Hamilton
Norris
Leclerc
Sainz

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/36347 ... on-verdict
Exactly the same as mine.
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 132
Views: 6135

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

I'd say the fact at Silverstone they pitted him to take away the fastest lap points from Lewis instead of collecting WCC points would suggest they aren't. This is something you'd never see from another team. They literally damaged their WCC bid to enhance their drivers WDC bid. I'd forgot about tha...
by pokerman
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 132
Views: 6135

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

Just like vettel has not shown the same speed In anything other than a Redbull car designed by Newey. I don't normally defend Vettel but this is totally wrong. He was back to his best from 2017-mid 2018 and showed flashes of brilliance in 2015. The lengths some people go to trying to deny Verstappe...
by pokerman
Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Last season in 2 car finishes it was 6-5 between Sainz and Norris. There was little between them. The main difference in the points is the 2nd place finish for Sainz after the red flag at Monza. Would you not agree that Norris looks like he's taken another step forward and that his performances don...
by pokerman
Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Looking at last years rankings Perez was at #5 and Bottas was at #10, put Perez in a top car and then he drops down to #12 one place below Bottas.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16165
by pokerman
Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:39 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

Last season in 2 car finishes it was 6-5 between Sainz and Norris. There was little between them. The main difference in the points is the 2nd place finish for Sainz after the red flag at Monza. Would you not agree that Norris looks like he's taken another step forward and that his performances don...
by pokerman
Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Who will win the Championships?
Replies: 122
Views: 6513

Re: Who will win the Championships?

It's too and froing so much that I can't decide, Max was looking the favourite, driving better and had the better car, the gap was 33 points and should have been bigger. Due to even more misfortune Max is now slightly behind with the car advantage gone, maybe Red Bull are now slightly behind, I feel...
by pokerman
Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4798
Views: 1076432

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

I would hope that Lewis gets some expert medical advice about his health and that Merc can find someone to help tailor his diet and training regimen to best get him back to 100%. The closer Lewis gets to 40 the more he will have trouble maintaining the same kind of fitness and driving skills that h...
by pokerman
Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

I'm normally close with these polls, big surprise to not see Max leading and being a clear leader at that, I do feel Norris is being a little overrated due to how badly Ricciardo is performing. He's third in the championship in arguably the 3rd/4th best car at times. And a car that is miles behind ...
by pokerman
Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

I'm normally close with these polls, big surprise to not see Max leading and being a clear leader at that, I do feel Norris is being a little overrated due to how badly Ricciardo is performing. Why do people say this, lets for argument sake say Ricciardo was performing at the same level as Norris i...
by pokerman
Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

I'm normally close with these polls, big surprise to not see Max leading and being a clear leader at that, I do feel Norris is being a little overrated due to how badly Ricciardo is performing. He's third in the championship in arguably the 3rd/4th best car at times. And a car that is miles behind ...
by pokerman
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:57 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4798
Views: 1076432

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

I would hope that Lewis gets some expert medical advice about his health and that Merc can find someone to help tailor his diet and training regimen to best get him back to 100%. The closer Lewis gets to 40 the more he will have trouble maintaining the same kind of fitness and driving skills that h...
by pokerman
Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:47 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance
Replies: 86
Views: 2397

Re: Rank the Drivers Midseason Performance

I'm normally close with these polls, big surprise to not see Max leading and being a clear leader at that, I do feel Norris is being a little overrated due to how badly Ricciardo is performing.
by pokerman
Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4798
Views: 1076432

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

After seeing Lewis post race yesterday he's probably grateful for the summer break has come. He mentioned after the race that he thinks it's due to long covid. With that being the case do you think we could see a scenario where the FIA ask him to go through a medical? He was dizzy post race it coul...
by pokerman
Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021
Replies: 688
Views: 36756

Re: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021

Hungary I go with Mercedes for both qualifying and the race so:-

Red Bull 14 - 8 Mercedes
by pokerman
Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread
Replies: 283
Views: 18622

Re: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread

How could that have worked prior to this season when Verstappen had only had non entities as team mates where you'd have no idea how to place them? Genuine question. As I don't understand. I had (apparently wrongly) assumed that Riciardos rating was so high due to beating Vettel and Verstappens rat...
by pokerman
Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread
Replies: 283
Views: 18622

Re: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread

Whilst I don't believe this is Ric's representative speed. His position in these comparisons was probably also artificially high because of his 2014 against an under performing Vettel though. I would say clearly artificially high because of 2014 but not by a huge amount, this year as to be seen as ...
by pokerman
Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix
Replies: 56
Views: 2176

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix

I originally went for ocon and alonso, but since learning teams could talk, and merc decided to keep lewis out and and not pit, i dont think its fair to penalise hamilton in that regard. So ill add lewis as 3rd best drive I agree he could have passed alonso quicker, but i think hamilton knew alonso...
by pokerman
Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix
Replies: 56
Views: 2176

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix

Exediron wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:27 pm
Alonso, and only Alonso. His defending from Hamilton was epic, proving that you actually can defend from a much faster car without forcing him off track or hitting him. Great stuff.
Alonso banged wheels with Hamilton which helped to ward off one attack.
by pokerman
Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:39 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix
Replies: 56
Views: 2176

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix

Did Lewis have a car 2-3 seconds faster than the entire field? Or did he have a tyre offset to the field based on how early he pitted and then taking the extra stop? As I said he literally exceeded the expectations of what you said when I added the caveat if Verstappens car is healthy after the red...
by pokerman
Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix
Replies: 56
Views: 2176

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix

Hamilton had the pace to lap the entire field easily today. He really should have won. Didn't make it a walk in the park to pass cars though. And I get the impression that a lot of Ham's race pace today was down to him - his pace was fantastic. Unfortunately no good direct comparisons with Bottas n...
by pokerman
Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix
Replies: 56
Views: 2176

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix

Has to be Bottas. The precision with which he managed to hit Norris to then hit Verstappen was the kind of shot that Ronnie O'Sullivan would tip his hat to. On a more serious note Ocon has to be a contender of course. Alonso, Hamilton, Verstappen, Vettel there are contenders all the way down in man...
by pokerman
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Games
Topic: 2021 Pick 10 Competition
Replies: 415
Views: 12774

Re: 2021 Pick 10 Competition

51, I guess a complete train wreck for everyone.
by pokerman
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:39 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 770
Views: 21127

Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

On reflection going from last to third place on such a difficult place to pass after the cock up at the start was a really good result for Hamilton, if the undercut on Ricciardo and Max fails then that just doesn't happen and it was really close, 2 or 3 more laps I think he wins the race but I very ...
by pokerman
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 770
Views: 21127

Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

So Mercedes told Hamilton more raining was coming, another fail for the strategy team with a win thrown in the bin. I noticed Hamilton hadn't received the no blame culture memo :lol: Were other drivers given the same information? I'm not saying he's wrong. Oh I see what you mean now, I guess he sho...