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Kubica did have a championship challenge. In the 2008 BMW. In the third best car, how was that a WDC capable car and only in the hunt due to McLaren/Mercedes mess ups, he won only one race because of the pit lane collision between Hamilton and Kimi, he was out of contention in the last third of the...

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Kubica arguably also never had a credible championship winning car, but his career was cut short. This is probably the 7th or 8th season Ricciardo has been considered a top driver - its unusual in the history of the sport for a top driver to go that long without ever getting a go in a championship ...

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In a nutshell..... These are the drivers who're already confirmed for 202 or beyond: Carlos Sainz Jr., Ferrari (2022) Fernando Alonso, Alpine (2022) Lance Stroll, Aston Martin (2022+) Mick Schumacher, Haas (2022+) Nikita Mazepin, Haas (2022+) Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes (2023) Max Verstappen, Red Bull...

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Who do you think it would be, then? Bear in mind that mikeyg123 said he would be the greatest to 'never drive a car capable of making a championship run', not the greatest to never make such a run himself. He hasn't even had the opportunity regardless of personal ability -- no one could have challe...

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In a nutshell..... These are the drivers who're already confirmed for 202 or beyond: Carlos Sainz Jr., Ferrari (2022) Fernando Alonso, Alpine (2022) Lance Stroll, Aston Martin (2022+) Mick Schumacher, Haas (2022+) Nikita Mazepin, Haas (2022+) Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes (2023) Max Verstappen, Red Bull...

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That is a narrative that we now know isn’t true because Verstappen had already surpassed Hamilton in speed in 2018 at the latest (but more realistically 2017). Perhaps in one lap pace but there is no way Verstappen was the superior race driver. Your previous crossover point of mid-2019 is fairer an...

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The lifeline for Ricciardo is a totally new car for next year because he's clearly struggling with the car presently, to say the greatest driver never to make a title run with the limitations that he has, I'm not so sure. Who do you think it would be, then? Bear in mind that mikeyg123 said he would...

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pokerman wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:37 pm
Mercedes quicker in qualifying, the race I can't call it, Max was quick in the sprint but got crashed out in the GP, so:-

Red Bull 13 - 6 Mercedes

This using AMuS GPS data just for the race.

Apparently both Mercedes and Red Bull are agreeing with AMuS so:-

Red Bull 14 - 6 Mercedes

pokerman

The lifeline for Ricciardo is a totally new car for next year because he's clearly struggling with the car presently, to say the greatest driver never to make a title run with the limitations that he has, I'm not so sure. Who do you think it would be, then? Bear in mind that mikeyg123 said he would...

pokerman

That is a narrative that we now know isn’t true because Verstappen had already surpassed Hamilton in speed in 2018 at the latest (but more realistically 2017). Perhaps in one lap pace but there is no way Verstappen was the superior race driver. Your previous crossover point of mid-2019 is fairer an...

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I've read that Honda have taken Verstappen's engine from Silverstone to check for damage, though they believe that it is OK. This led me to think of an interesting situation though - had the engine been terminally damaged, Verstappen would have to take another, increasing his chances of exceeding t...

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I've read that Honda have taken Verstappen's engine from Silverstone to check for damage, though they believe that it is OK. This led me to think of an interesting situation though - had the engine been terminally damaged, Verstappen would have to take another, increasing his chances of exceeding t...

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I've moved this here as we were getting wildly off-topic. There is a thing called common sense do you think Webber is anywhere near as good as Alonso, because Rosberg had a poor rookie season against Webber you can't put that on Hamilton who had an outstanding rookie season against Alonso, elite dr...

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I've read that Honda have taken Verstappen's engine from Silverstone to check for damage, though they believe that it is OK. This led me to think of an interesting situation though - had the engine been terminally damaged, Verstappen would have to take another, increasing his chances of exceeding t...

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So Red Bull are introducing a new dynamic to the argument now, money sitting the crash cost the £1.3 million. This is taking whinging and moaning to new levels Mr Horner. They will be sueing Pirelli next because the tyres don't last the race. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57949190 This coupl...

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That's why you can't simply throw in numbers without context, saying that Webber was better than Rosberg when he was a rookie is the same as saying that Sainz is the equal of Max today, so how can Max be the best today when Leclerc is presently better than Sainz, Ignore more recent Hamilton > Butto...

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It's inaccurate if you are still using out of date 2014 data when newer better data is available, in the 2018 Mercedes/Ferrari season why are you declaring Hamilton and Vettel as equals when the data said that Hamilton was the fastest driver in F1, faster than Vettel and Alonso, why wasn't that ann...

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Verstappen chopped hamilton. There is no denying that. Those in denial simply show their bias against hamilton and are happy to see him fail. I feel this is very unfair and partisan. I have changed my mind on the incident as I misunderstood the longstanding convention of passing on the inside. If y...

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Despite the FIA saying that they don't take into account consequences, I'm skeptical about it. Not just for this incident but for any incident between two drivers. I know, but it would be a very slippery slope... How would they know that Hamilton would win the race in order to punish him more sever...

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I went back to check this as I remember you at the time always being adamant that Hamilton wasn't quicker than Vettel. In this thread you state there's nothing between them. I'd guess you've changed your mind on that now? I ask because I assume back then you did many driver comparisons to come to t...

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Qualifying data came out after 2015 showing Hamilton to be faster than Vettel, and validated in subsequent years 2016-2018, yet KingVoid in 2018 voted them as equal drivers, I guess he had no interest in the data back then. Funny how you are the exact opposite. You truly believed in the data back t...

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It wasn't fully justified, Ricciardo was seen as the equal of Hamilton because of his numbers against Vettel in 2014, to validate that there was a set level he needed to beat the Hulk by but he came up short, he not only came up short against the Hulk but he also came up short against Ocon the seas...

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The lifeline for Ricciardo is a totally new car for next year because he's clearly struggling with the car presently, to say the greatest driver never to make a title run with the limitations that he has, I'm not so sure. Who do you think it would be, then? Bear in mind that mikeyg123 said he would...

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Lewis Hamilton - Hamilton on another level to Bottas however fair play on Bottas for helping Hamilton throughout the weekend, I'm not sure that was just because it was Hamilton's home ground although it sounds it might be the case for the rest of the season. Max Verstappen - Most people seem to thi...

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So 21 votes in from keen & knowledgeable F1 fans with 76% of those who voted saying they don't like the new sprint format yet Ross Brawn is saying the fan love it & it's a success. I wonder if the fans he spoke to were also employees or guests of Liberty Media. The knowledgeable F1 fans are an irre...

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Out of interest if your top 3 are Leclarc, Max, Lewis. Whose the 4th ahead of Norris. I don't really see anyone else you can currently put there. Obviously Alonso is unknown but I don't think he could currently be placed above Norris. Yes that would be Alonso, if he's back to his best then Lando ha...

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Enough of Hamilton's easy ride with Bottas. I've got a novel idea tho... Get George Russell in the Merc for 2022. Now why do I have this uneasy feeling, especially given how absolutely delighted Bottas is recently to play second fiddle to Lewis in terms of his demeanour and words in interviews afte...

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Good points. If it's possible to extract him from his Merc contract would Russell take a Red Bull drive in 2022 or would he wait for Merc to see if they came back in 2023. On one hand the Merc drive is the better option. On the other there is no guarantee Merc won't pass on him again. RB are a 1 dr...

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Ricciardo is taking a colossal beating like Vettel did last year, Vettel was seen as one of the top guys after 2019 and fell out of the top 10 the year after, Ricciardo presently can't be seen as a top 10 driver, Norris will be probably get rated at #5 if it stays like this and Ricciardo is 3 tenths...

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Wern't you one of the ones making the claims Vettel was quicker than Hamilton though? And that that season would prove it? As far as I am aware, no. Anyway, I used Jenson Button as a benchmark to calculate how Verstappen, Hamilton, Perez, and Bottas would stack up against each other, since Button i...

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Haha absolutely! I think the poll accurately describe the situation. If anyone is to blame it's Lewis, but we're content to have it be a racing incident. If they both suffered damage or Lewis didn't benefit from the red flag, it may not have been as big of a deal as it turned out to be. This is inc...

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It wasn't fully justified, Ricciardo was seen as the equal of Hamilton because of his numbers against Vettel in 2014, to validate that there was a set level he needed to beat the Hulk by but he came up short, he not only came up short against the Hulk but he also came up short against Ocon the seas...

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That's good enough for me. :) France-RB https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/f1-formcheck-power-ranking-gp-frankreich-2021/ 5-2 to Red Bull Styria-RB https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/power-ranking-gp-steiermark-2021-formcheck-spielberg/ 6-2 to Red Bull Surely there's no doubt th...

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Out of interest if you don't mind. What does the Max/Sainz/Lando equation give you? That chain suggests that Verstappen and Norris are equal, although Verstappen was only 17 at the time. Anyway, I don’t expect Perez to get any closer to Verstappen with time because I truly believe that this is the ...

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Out of interest if you don't mind. What does the Max/Sainz/Lando equation give you? That chain suggests that Verstappen and Norris are equal, although Verstappen was only 17 at the time. Anyway, I don’t expect Perez to get any closer to Verstappen with time because I truly believe that this is the ...

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Wern't you one of the ones making the claims Vettel was quicker than Hamilton though? And that that season would prove it? As far as I am aware, no. Anyway, I used Jenson Button as a benchmark to calculate how Verstappen, Hamilton, Perez, and Bottas would stack up against each other, since Button i...

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I remember when Ferrari and Mercedes were compared in 2018, a lot of people were saying that the drivers are not equal and making a difference. I feel the same way about this year. If the cars were identical, this is how I’d expect qualifying to go: 1. Verstappen 2. Hamilton (0.2s behind) 3. Bottas...

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Mercedes quicker in qualifying, the race I can't call it, Max was quick in the sprint but got crashed out in the GP, so:-

Red Bull 13 - 6 Mercedes

This using AMuS GPS data just for the race.

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A.J. wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:59 pm

pokerman wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:51 pm
Today Mercedes were clearly faster in qualifying.
Still waiting for your link for the Honda engine being 0.25s a lap faster than the Mercedes engine...

Found it again.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/honda-not ... on-engine/

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Montoya saying a lot of things I've been saying.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/motorsp ... d=msedgntp

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