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pokerman

After seeing Lewis post race yesterday he's probably grateful for the summer break has come. He mentioned after the race that he thinks it's due to long covid. With that being the case do you think we could see a scenario where the FIA ask him to go through a medical? He was dizzy post race it coul...

pokerman

Hungary I go with Mercedes for both qualifying and the race so:-

Red Bull 14 - 8 Mercedes

pokerman

How could that have worked prior to this season when Verstappen had only had non entities as team mates where you'd have no idea how to place them? Genuine question. As I don't understand. I had (apparently wrongly) assumed that Riciardos rating was so high due to beating Vettel and Verstappens rat...

pokerman

Whilst I don't believe this is Ric's representative speed. His position in these comparisons was probably also artificially high because of his 2014 against an under performing Vettel though. I would say clearly artificially high because of 2014 but not by a huge amount, this year as to be seen as ...

pokerman

I originally went for ocon and alonso, but since learning teams could talk, and merc decided to keep lewis out and and not pit, i dont think its fair to penalise hamilton in that regard. So ill add lewis as 3rd best drive I agree he could have passed alonso quicker, but i think hamilton knew alonso...

pokerman

Exediron wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:27 pm
Alonso, and only Alonso. His defending from Hamilton was epic, proving that you actually can defend from a much faster car without forcing him off track or hitting him. Great stuff.

Alonso banged wheels with Hamilton which helped to ward off one attack.

pokerman

Did Lewis have a car 2-3 seconds faster than the entire field? Or did he have a tyre offset to the field based on how early he pitted and then taking the extra stop? As I said he literally exceeded the expectations of what you said when I added the caveat if Verstappens car is healthy after the red...

pokerman

Hamilton had the pace to lap the entire field easily today. He really should have won. Didn't make it a walk in the park to pass cars though. And I get the impression that a lot of Ham's race pace today was down to him - his pace was fantastic. Unfortunately no good direct comparisons with Bottas n...

pokerman

Has to be Bottas. The precision with which he managed to hit Norris to then hit Verstappen was the kind of shot that Ronnie O'Sullivan would tip his hat to. On a more serious note Ocon has to be a contender of course. Alonso, Hamilton, Verstappen, Vettel there are contenders all the way down in man...

pokerman

51, I guess a complete train wreck for everyone.

pokerman

On reflection going from last to third place on such a difficult place to pass after the cock up at the start was a really good result for Hamilton, if the undercut on Ricciardo and Max fails then that just doesn't happen and it was really close, 2 or 3 more laps I think he wins the race but I very ...

pokerman

So Mercedes told Hamilton more raining was coming, another fail for the strategy team with a win thrown in the bin. I noticed Hamilton hadn't received the no blame culture memo :lol: Were other drivers given the same information? I'm not saying he's wrong. Oh I see what you mean now, I guess he sho...

pokerman

Lance Stroll 5 place grid penalty as well.

pokerman

Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:25 pm

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:24 pm
Is Stroll really just going to be let off again?
Yes. I am surprised nothing has been mentioned as yet. After the Bottas carsh, Charles could have come out in second after T1.

They probably took the view that Bottas triggered everything that came after.

pokerman

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:23 pm

pokerman wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:22 pm
So Mercedes told Hamilton more raining was coming, another fail for the strategy team with a win thrown in the bin.
I noticed Hamilton hadn't received the no blame culture memo

Were other drivers given the same information?

pokerman

mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:21 pm

UnlikeUday wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:18 pm
Max was completely handicapped due to driving a broken car. It was worth claiming 1 point.
Hamilton would have parked that car for sure.

Probably a valiant effort by Max to get a point.

pokerman

So Mercedes told Hamilton more raining was coming, another fail for the strategy team with a win thrown in the bin.

pokerman

JN23 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:16 pm
Well Russell finally gets points, but Latifi got more

Big day for Williams, pleased for them.

Just Russell's luck it happens like that, chances are that Latifi finished above him in the WDC.

pokerman

Alonso hit Hamilton there :lol: :lol: :lol: Leaving space on the outside approaching a corner doesn't include banging wheels Alonso left space. Find someone who agrees with you and I'll take it seriously. In my view it's the best defensive drive I've seen in years. Sainz Only lasted a lap. Sainz ty...

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mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:00 pm

pokerman wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:59 pm
Alonso hit Hamilton there

Leaving space on the outside approaching a corner doesn't include banging wheels

pokerman

Alonso hit Hamilton there

pokerman

What kind of gap do you need to pit and clear a car?

pokerman

From what I can see best place Hamilton can finish is 4th.

pokerman

Yeboah24 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:04 pm

pokerman wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:00 pm
lucky for Hamilton, game on now.
Lucky?

It was close.

pokerman

lucky for Hamilton, game on now.

pokerman

purchville wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:43 pm
Hamilton brain fade IMO

I would say it's always been a weakness in his game.

pokerman

It might have been Hamilton's call after all, I must admit that wouldn't surprise me either.

pokerman

I repeat again the Mercedes strategy team are so bad made to luck good by often having the best car.

pokerman

The great Merce4des strategy team got to love then, too scared to make a decision yet again.

pokerman

I'm watching the replay and see nearly every car leaving a sensible gap to the car in front under braking, Bottas simply didn't do that it was terrible driving given the conditions, Stroll probably also did the same .

pokerman

F1Tyrant wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:19 pm
If Verstappen pulls a win from here, has to be the best since Canada 2011.

Which needed luck with multiple safety cars.

pokerman

You've got to laugh. Bottas his usual wet weather self. This isn't going to improve relations between Mercedes and Red Bull. Given past precedents (Grosjean Spa 2012) that could be a ban for Bottas. They will take into the track condition, are we not entertained though wet race grid starts, this is...

pokerman

You've got to laugh. Bottas his usual wet weather self. This isn't going to improve relations between Mercedes and Red Bull. Given past precedents (Grosjean Spa 2012) that could be a ban for Bottas. They will take into account the track conditions, are we not entertained though, wet race grid start...

pokerman

I know it's more exciting but this is one reason why they stopped grid starts for wet races, I suggest SC start for the restart just in case.

pokerman

Grid penalty for Bottas next race for me.

pokerman

Looked like a bad mistake by Norris at first but Bottas took them all out.

pokerman

Cross referencing my numbers which are in brackets.

Leclerc 0.205% (0.177%)
Max 0.503% (0.51%)
Norris 0.469% (0.432%)
Vettel 0.074% (0.093%)
Alonso 0.076% (-0.032%)

pokerman

Just like vettel has not shown the same speed In anything other than a Redbull car designed by Newey. I don't normally defend Vettel but this is totally wrong. He was back to his best from 2017-mid 2018 and showed flashes of brilliance in 2015. The lengths some people go to trying to deny Verstappe...

pokerman

They haven't spent a year in a championship contending car yet. You think this years Red Bull will ever be described as not being a championship contending car? I'm sure it will but it hasn't been yet. You're early definition was a driver leading the WDC, Max has lead far longer than Kubica ever di...

pokerman

Is it the first time this season Bottas has out qualified Verstappen? 2nd time, Bottas was on pole in Portugal. Impressive speed from Mercedes today. I thought I may be forgetting a pole from Bottas. Nevertheless I think that's probably the strongest we've seen Merc all season. I think I agree when...

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