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by pokerman
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

LOL...ok...Let's just ignore the most dominant car and team ever seen in F1 history... That is actually the difference: the Schumacher brigade thinks that already the discussion is not justified. It shows how far the fanatism goes ... Kindly explain to me why Hamilton still doesn’t have a contract ...
by pokerman
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Nice to see Brits in a British board trying to justify a British driver to be superior than a German driver....very surprising Well Hamilton does have very impressive accomplishments which are in the same bracket as Schumacher's, so it seems like a reasonable debate to have. LOL...ok...Let's just i...
by pokerman
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

I get the impression that Hamilton is perhaps less ruthless than Schumacher was. I think he embraces the competition and is fairly comfortable working in a transparent environment and accepting that his team mates are closer to him, but also therefore both drivers and the team as a whole is more co...
by pokerman
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Can you imagine Schumacher would allow such a detailed debrief to be given to the likes of Irvine, Barrichello or Massa? Hamilton's willingness to be open strengthens the teammates that are willing and able to learn from him. I don't think Hamilton had anything to do with that, and I highly doubt h...
by pokerman
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

I get the impression that Hamilton is perhaps less ruthless than Schumacher was. I think he embraces the competition and is fairly comfortable working in a transparent environment and accepting that his team mates are closer to him, but also therefore both drivers and the team as a whole is more co...
by pokerman
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

So in real basic terms these are the drivers that drove cars that would REALISTICALLY (so know Verstappen in 2020 or Button in 2004 where literally everything would have to go right to allow them to challenge for championship) during time time Hamilton and Schumacher were competing for championship...
by pokerman
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Nice to see Brits in a British board trying to justify a British driver to be superior than a German driver....very surprising If only that was the case, me personally I'm not saying that, however the opposite is true by others and even then in response I'm just questioning some of the hyperbole su...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Just of them was his own fault. That cost him the win. Certainly without that he would have be leading the WDC. How, where's the evidence? I've done some maths and think I worked it out. After six rounds (Monaco), if you take the position that Schumacher was in when he retired and give him the win ...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

I get the impression that Hamilton is perhaps less ruthless than Schumacher was. I think he embraces the competition and is fairly comfortable working in a transparent environment and accepting that his team mates are closer to him, but also therefore both drivers and the team as a whole is more co...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:10 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Unreliability in 2012. Had he collected the points in the positions he retired in, he'd have been leading the 2012 WDC by the time they arrived Canada. I know he had unreliability but you still need to run that past me, retiring from a couple of third places doesn't quite do it for me, he was never...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

My opinion on this is very clear The grid from 2014-2020 was more talented than in Schumacher’s time, but that is completely meaningless because all the best drivers from 2014-2020 were stuck in hugely inferior machinery. Say what you want about Hill, Villeneuve and Hakkinen - they all had a fair s...
by pokerman
Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

So in real basic terms these are the drivers that drove cars that would REALISTICALLY (so know Verstappen in 2020 or Button in 2004 where literally everything would have to go right to allow them to challenge for championship) during time time Hamilton and Schumacher were competing for championship...
by pokerman
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Once again, these statistics really don't mean anything without context. Especially given how you include Schumacher's Mercedes years in that statistic. The most accurate measure of driver performance is that relative to their peers. Schumacher, excluding his rookie years, was probably only matched...
by pokerman
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

So in real basic terms these are the drivers that drove cars that would REALISTICALLY (so know Verstappen in 2020 or Button in 2004 where literally everything would have to go right to allow them to challenge for championship) during time time Hamilton and Schumacher were competing for championship...
by pokerman
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

My opinion on this is very clear The grid from 2014-2020 was more talented than in Schumacher’s time, but that is completely meaningless because all the best drivers from 2014-2020 were stuck in hugely inferior machinery. Say what you want about Hill, Villeneuve and Hakkinen - they all had a fair s...
by pokerman
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

I give credit to Hakkinen but then again he won 2 titles against Schumacher allbeit he seemingly needed the car to do it, I think we might place Hakkinen at a similar level to Vettel. Actually Hakkinen is more comparable to Lewis, both extremely fast in ultimate pace and qualifying,, both loved by ...
by pokerman
Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Is this statement for or against Hamilton? Because all it states is that more drivers have won a WDC competing against Hamilton than that of Schumacher. And that's despite the fact Schumacher had seasons where he was either in evidently inferior cars, or had other issues such as injuries. This thre...
by pokerman
Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Which drivers will we see full-time in F1 again?
Replies: 13
Views: 632

Re: Which drivers will we see full-time in F1 again?

Albon has the best chance but I would rate it as no better than 50/50 so I didn't vote, apparently Red Bull are going to run a DTM team were they are going to match up Albon against Liam Lawson, I'm not sure what this means for Lawson's single seater career, maybe he's going to dovetail this with F2...
by pokerman
Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:14 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers, December 2020
Replies: 35
Views: 2119

Re: Rank the Drivers, December 2020

I've been keeping track of the voting and with Hamilton and Verstappen it was very easy to see how the votes went with the majority having them in the top 2, so after 30 votes it went like this:- 1. Hamilton 1.21 (24x1st, 6x2nd) 2. Verstappen 2.07 (5x1st, 18x2nd, 7x3rd) Leclerc managed to bag 1x1st...
by pokerman
Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Who ruined Williams?
Replies: 23
Views: 1417

Re: Who ruined Williams?

So wen do you feel the decline actually started? They were 3rd in the WCC in '14-'15 which seems a long time ago now. Since winning in '97 they had been a bit up and down but were 2nd in '02 and '03. So in terms of a continuing decline I guess you have to go from '16 but their points haul has been ...
by pokerman
Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

My opinion on this is very clear The grid from 2014-2020 was more talented than in Schumacher’s time, but that is completely meaningless because all the best drivers from 2014-2020 were stuck in hugely inferior machinery. Say what you want about Hill, Villeneuve and Hakkinen - they all had a fair s...
by pokerman
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers that have enjoyed a car capable of challenging for the WDC: - Hamilton - Rosberg - Bottas - Vettel - Raikkonen My opinion of Rosberg is similar to your opi...
by pokerman
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:36 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

My opinion on this is very clear The grid from 2014-2020 was more talented than in Schumacher’s time, but that is completely meaningless because all the best drivers from 2014-2020 were stuck in hugely inferior machinery. Say what you want about Hill, Villeneuve and Hakkinen - they all had a fair s...
by pokerman
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers that have enjoyed a car capable of challenging for the WDC: - Hamilton - Rosberg - Bottas - Vettel - Raikkonen My opinion of Rosberg is similar to your opi...
by pokerman
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

My view on this hasn't changed from the time it was happening some 20 years ago now which I viewed as the dark ages of F1 because of the dearth in talent. Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers ...
by pokerman
Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

I've stayed out of this for the most part as the arguments are all over the place, but to pokerman's point it seems like some are asking whether driver's from Hamilton's Mercedes era (who had a car capable of competing for the title) are stronger than the best drivers who competed against Schumache...
by pokerman
Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Exediron wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:36 pm
pokerman wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:40 pm
You've clearly changed the subject from drivers onto cars.
This is Formula 1... it's all about the cars.
Then let's not talk about the drivers.
by pokerman
Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 987791

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Wow https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1381543/Lewis-Hamilton-sends-Mercedes-strong-message-Valtteri-Bottas-George-Russell-talk?fbclid=IwAR06_OCTFb7oUyPOfUjfrHL3nDwgJIKHovvQ32tGS_3pYvzhqTpzS5WltNY Conceited much? "I think you’ve got to remember who he’s driving up against; it’s not easy b...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

My view on this hasn't changed from the time it was happening some 20 years ago now which I viewed as the dark ages of F1 because of the dearth in talent. Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers ...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

My view on this hasn't changed from the time it was happening some 20 years ago now which I viewed as the dark ages of F1 because of the dearth in talent. Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers ...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

My view on this hasn't changed from the time it was happening some 20 years ago now which I viewed as the dark ages of F1 because of the dearth in talent. Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers ...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:55 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Who was the best driver to debut between 1993-1999... this must be the worst period of talent arriving in the sport. Everything driver that looked decent in that era got bettered later on by 2000 onward drivers. Who is the best from that era? Coulthard? Trulli? Fisichella? Villeneuve? Frentzen? Yes...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

My view on this hasn't changed from the time it was happening some 20 years ago now which I viewed as the dark ages of F1 because of the dearth in talent. Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers ...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

My view on this hasn't changed from the time it was happening some 20 years ago now which I viewed as the dark ages of F1 because of the dearth in talent. Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers ...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abiteboul leaves renault.
Replies: 10
Views: 634

Re: Abiteboul leaves renault.

I heard rumour that what helped him in F1 was marrying into the Renault hierarchy and to this end he still will be working within the Renault organisation , I heard as head of the Alpine sports cars. No, he is leaving Renault. He had been appointed head of the Alpine brand, and he was/would have be...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 calendar
Replies: 31
Views: 1790

Re: 2021 calendar

Thinking out loud here, but are the races postponed due to issues over current Covid levels and teams flying in and out of the country, or are the organisers hoping that dates later in the year will enable fans in and therefore lots more money? I can't see how that works because there are 23 races ...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Abiteboul leaves renault.
Replies: 10
Views: 634

Re: Abiteboul leaves renault.

I heard rumour that what helped him in F1 was marrying into the Renault hierarchy and to this end he still will be working within the Renault organisation , I heard as head of the Alpine sports cars. No, he is leaving Renault. He had been appointed head of the Alpine brand, and he was/would have be...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Rank the Drivers, December 2020
Replies: 35
Views: 2119

Re: Rank the Drivers, December 2020

I've been keeping track of the voting and with Hamilton and Verstappen it was very easy to see how the votes went with the majority having them in the top 2, so after 30 votes it went like this:- 1. Hamilton 1.21 (24x1st, 6x2nd) 2. Verstappen 2.07 (5x1st, 18x2nd, 7x3rd) Leclerc managed to bag 1x1st...
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:39 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 calendar
Replies: 31
Views: 1790

Re: 2021 calendar

Imola and Portimao has to be seen as excellent news. :thumbup:
by pokerman
Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 170
Views: 1899

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

I don't think anybody really believes Barrichello was at the same level as Alonso throughout his career, but he was one of the fastest guys on the grid in the late 90's - for me he would today be on the same level as a Button/Ricciardo/Sainz, where he is fast enough to challenge the elites, but not...