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I think the standard of drivers have gone up as a generation, as the sport becomes better and more scientific with training young talent. I'm one of those who believe that Schumacher didn't actually regress that much when he returned to the sport, but that the current crop of drivers were on averag...

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Then he moved to Red Bull exactly when they started to be on top. They hadn't started to be anywhere near the top until Vettel sat in that car. RBR started winning when Vettel arrived. Why is it always one-way? This is what you answered to, just a factual statement Well if you see it that way, my a...

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What part of drivers being under contract for 2005 did you not understand What part of "If a driver wants to leave, he'll leave. No team would keep an unmotivated driver." did you not understand? I'm sorry but i don't think Vettel had to be there to show how good the car was, what he has done as be...

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It will be good to see him back in a single seater even though i no longer get to see the Indycar races

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When he signed a new contract for 2013, he perfectly knew how things were and what he could expect. He chose to sign and to enjoy everything with goes with being a Ferrari driver, including a hefty salary. Now it's too late for complaining. Without being able to read the article i have seen little ...

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slide wrote:wasn't he trying before then? too late unfortunatly

I think its fair to say he often gets hampered in races for the betterment of Alonso

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mds wrote:
Andres125sx wrote:Then he moved to Red Bull exactly when they started to be on top.
They hadn't started to be anywhere near the top until Vettel sat in that car. RBR started winning when Vettel arrived. Why is it always one-way?

This is what you answered to, just a factual statement

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Hey guys sorry for late reply was working, I was told this info from a friend who knows a guy who works at red bull f1. Thats why I posted it to see what fellow members would think? He said marko said kimi is too old, not for future to dietrich (sp) horner and other higher members. Thats why the de...

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f1diablo wrote:Vettel does have the best car by far, but he is still getting the results. So suck it up and move on

This is true on both counts

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I think the performances of Webber and even of the young drivers in the tests is enough evidence of the performance of the car, were not people recently fawning at the performance of Carlos Sainz junior in the Red Bull car? Performance of Webber? P4, P3, P3, P6 and currently P5. Never finished runn...

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Hulkenberg seems to be turning into the new Heidfeld. Promising, but always left out in favor of someone else. Interestingly, he's been rejected by Ferrari in favor of the same driver that Mclaren reportedly rejected Nick for, a decade ago. Perennial bridesmaid? I hope not. Hulk deserves a go in a ...

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According to Massa he is in talks with both Lotus & McLaren about a drive next year :D I don't dislike Massa, but as a Lotus fan I really hope he doesn't get the seat, because I really want to see Hulkenberg there next season (or di Resta, but Hulk seems more likely). I agree to a point. I think th...

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Just a quick thought: McLaren have Kevin Magnussen leading the FR3.5 Championship, and they have Stoffel Vandoorne sitting just behind Magnussen in his rookie year. As much as Perez's age makes me think they wouldn't drop him, perhaps knowing they have two incredibly talented youngsters on the verg...

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Massa to McLaren? instead of who? Button? Where would Button or Perez go? Well its my understanding that presently neither of them have a contract? I hope Button stays at McLaren. Anyway I suspect that Massa won't join McLaren and both Perez and Button retain their seats. Thats what i think will ha...

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mds wrote:They hadn't started to be anywhere near the top until Vettel sat in that car. RBR started winning when Vettel arrived. Why is it always one-way?

What am i supposed to read into that?

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I think you might find that was just a case of drivers being under contract for 2005, a year later when Sato was out of contract at BAR and Barrichello was out of contract at Ferrari he joined BAR for 2006, this despite BAR not being as strong as 2004 but they did finish 2005 quite strongly and thi...

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If I understand pokerman right he's basically saying that RBR would have had a top car with or without Vettel, although the latter undoubtedly help them become a top team by utilising that car to its full advantage. It may be reaction to some people inferring that RBR would have been nowhere withou...

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Vettel is part of the Red Bull team. His form helped them win what will likely be four WDCs in a row. So yes, he helped them become the top team in F1 at the moment. Yes he helped them to become the top team in F1 which is slightly different wording to them becoming a top team which they always wer...

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They would have been a top team without Vettel's assistance, whether they would have won the titles they did is more open to debate and doubtful in my opinion initially, but in such a car there would have been no shortage of top drivers queueing up to drive for them with more chance of getting the ...

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Vettel is part of the Red Bull team. His form helped them win what will likely be four WDCs in a row. So yes, he helped them become the top team in F1 at the moment. Yes he helped them to become the top team in F1 which is slightly different wording to them becoming a top team which they always wer...

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Vettel is part of the Red Bull team. His form helped them win what will likely be four WDCs in a row. So yes, he helped them become the top team in F1 at the moment. Yes he helped them to become the top team in F1 which is slightly different wording to them becoming a top team which they always wer...

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You see it like you want to see it. The still inexperienced Vettel took RBR's first win way before the seasoned and well-regarded Webber won with it, after getting pole in a wet Q where he didn't have a lot of running due to problems, and with the BGP's that were pretty much a force of nature in th...

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You see it like you want to see it. The still inexperienced Vettel took RBR's first win way before the seasoned and well-regarded Webber won with it, after getting pole in a wet Q where he didn't have a lot of running due to problems, and with the BGP's that were pretty much a force of nature in th...

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According to the brazilian Globo, Massa is negotiating with both Lotus and McLaren for next year. They would seem to be the best options for Massa, i don't see Williams as being any kind of fit eitherways, Massa brings no funding to them whilst Williams wouldn't be deemed as a competitive enough te...

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FlyingScot wrote; But no idea why Vettel would veto it. Your kidding me right? Of course Vettel wouldn't want Hulkenberg. He is young, talented, fast, AND a massive threat to Vettel! Vettel wants someone who will be a lap dog, roll over and do as he is told (which is a pretty sure fire bet as to wh...

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Sutton wrote:Massa to McLaren?

instead of who? Button?
Where would Button or Perez go?

Well its my understanding that presently neither of them have a contract?

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Its an interesting question, although I think when posters mention Trulli beating Alonso they are referring to 2004 alone. In those days, quali position depended not only on driver/car speed, but also qualifying fuel. Does anyone have the statistics for Alonso/Trulli quali positions - fuel adjusted...

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FlyingScot wrote; But no idea why Vettel would veto it. Your kidding me right? Of course Vettel wouldn't want Hulkenberg. He is young, talented, fast, AND a massive threat to Vettel! Vettel wants someone who will be a lap dog, roll over and do as he is told (which is a pretty sure fire bet as to wh...

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FlyingScot wrote; But no idea why Vettel would veto it. Your kidding me right? Of course Vettel wouldn't want Hulkenberg. He is young, talented, fast, AND a massive threat to Vettel! Vettel wants someone who will be a lap dog, roll over and do as he is told (which is a pretty sure fire bet as to wh...

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They hadn't started to be anywhere near the top until Vettel sat in that car. RBR started winning when Vettel arrived. Why is it always one-way? RBR started being near the top in 2009 because everyone started from zero again after the rule changes. Vettel also happened to join in that year. You see...

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They hadn't started to be anywhere near the top until Vettel sat in that car. RBR started winning when Vettel arrived. Why is it always one-way? RBR started being near the top in 2009 because everyone started from zero again after the rule changes. Vettel also happened to join in that year. You see...

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If this is true, I can totally understand why Marko would want to veto it - people were already saying that bringing in Kimi (a WDC and proven winner) would undermine the RB Young Driver Programme, so bringing in an untested Hulkenberg ahead of Ricciardo would have been even worse. But no idea why ...

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f1madman wrote:Sauce?

I prefer tomato ketchup myself

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According to the brazilian Globo, Massa is negotiating with both Lotus and McLaren for next year. They would seem to be the best options for Massa, i don't see Williams as being any kind of fit eitherways, Massa brings no funding to them whilst Williams wouldn't be deemed as a competitive enough te...

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That won't please the illegal tyre test theorists

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If this is true, I can totally understand why Marko would want to veto it - people were already saying that bringing in Kimi (a WDC and proven winner) would undermine the RB Young Driver Programme, so bringing in an untested Hulkenberg ahead of Ricciardo would have been even worse. But no idea why ...

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Its an interesting question, although I think when posters mention Trulli beating Alonso they are referring to 2004 alone. In those days, quali position depended not only on driver/car speed, but also qualifying fuel. Does anyone have the statistics for Alonso/Trulli quali positions - fuel adjusted...

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Alonso will probably have the edge. Massa has been a team-mate with both, he said in the interview Alonso it even "more perfect than schumi" and the most complete team-mate he has ever had and you had to drive perfect to beat him... He didn't mention Kimi as a good driver or anything probably becau...

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...As for Allen saying Räikkönen has lost 4 tenths, I wonder how he would come to that conclusion, though it may be perfectly true. Having said that, his qualifying had already suffered by the time of his switch to Ferrari, and I find it hard to believe a driver loses that much overnight. It would ...

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