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Hamilton, Norris, Tsunoda. Nods to Leclerc and Perez (the latter only for his race performance, not making Q3 in the fastest car is Not Good).

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I'd expect the fastest of the next gen to be a touch quicker than those of the previous , so those figures fit in line with my intuition, at least. But Schumacher was quicker than both Alonso and Hamilton, which contradicts that idea. I have Schumacher up 0.190% on Hamilton using Button-Barrichello...

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Both incidents were terrible. I think the high speed of Sennas makes it particularly uncomfortable. The thing I haven’t seen here regarding 94, which is crucial for me, Schumacher was out the race when he took Hill out. He had destroyed his right suspension hitting the wall. The right rear wheel wa...

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Thank you for running this!

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In my view though the eventual outcome was justified - 1994 was probably one of the most "manufactured" title fights to have ever existed, after Senna's unfortunate demise. Hill would have been nowhere in the fight were it not for the people in power hobbling Schumacher every step of the way - it w...

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Schumi tried it again in 1997 under near-identical circumstances, which makes the defence quite a lot harder. Plus, Senna died in a car and had that slightly unearthly quality about him, so he's a hero to a lot of people in a way that Schumacher isn't. And no, 1994 isn't defensible in my view. First...

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I have to question whether Alonso > Ocon 0.12s - 0.34s is really a prediction beyond you expect Alonso to beat Ocon. To be honest, I value these predictions a lot more when they are transparent about the margin of error. Given the number of steps, we shouldn't expect a particularly precise predicti...

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Hamilton Verstappen Ricciardo Leclerc Perez Russell Bottas Sainz Norris Vettel Gasly Raikkonen Hulkenberg Ocon Stroll Kyvat Grosjean Magnussen Albon Giovianzzi Fittipaldi Aitken Latifi EDIT: If the format allowed, I'd split this into tiers, with 3-4, 5-7, 8-14, 15-20 and 21-23 hard to tell apart. I...

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I'll say what I expect from a qualitative point of view: Leclerc to beat Sainz, but Sainz to be better than Vettel was. Vettel to have roughly Perez's margin over Stroll. The questions behind both of these is really "What was going on at Ferrari in 2020 - was Leclerc really good or was Vettel really...

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Good idea with the thread, this will be interesting! For all the naysaying, I do think there's some nonzero value to the comparisons. More data certainly helps - the Kimi/Alonso/Massa triangle had 2.5 seasons of Kimi/Massa and 3 of Alonso/Massa. I'm more comfortable with qualitative statements like ...

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A request for those who've built the comparison models: Provide your confidence intervals. You're never going to get it bang on, but something like "I think Vettel will beat Stroll by 0.3s, plus or minus 0.2s", gives us all a much better idea of how well you think your method works and gives a way t...

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All the quantitative X -> Y -> Z stuff needs a serious conversation about statistics, and in particular, errors, because I think some of the claims about driver performance in this thread are vastly overconfident. I chose, partly at random and partly because it's old enough to hopefully be uncontrov...

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This boils down to:

Which will happen first:

1) Hamilton retires
2) Hamilton is beaten by a team-mate
3) Someone other than Mercedes builds a championship-winning car

and if 3, who will be driving it?

I voted for Max, but I think both Russell and Bottas are also both pretty likely.

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Vettel. He took pole and beat the field, on pace, in a weak car.

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I often seem to get Lafiti in my head for some reason, but it is Latifi. I also always used to type wherlien rather than wehrlein though, so we all can make mistakes! I blame Jacques Laffite! I'm too young to have seen him race, but I know the name and spent the first few races of this year assumin...

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Russell over Bottas, although Bottas wasn't quite as bad as he looked - he was catching Russell when disaster struck. Vettel over Leclerc: Slow, undramatic drive to a non-points finish, or an ace qualifying lap followed by lap lap 1 brain fade? At least Vettel's poor performance didn't affect anyone...

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(Also, how do you get the BBCode for quoting a tweet to work?) 1335688977626624000 Use the tweet tags, and then remove everything from the twitter.com URL except for the part after the final slash -- the bit that's just numbers. Copy that between the tweet tags, and you're good to go! Free tip: Thi...

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It's the perfect opportunity. Verstappen out on lap one, both Mercs have disasters, and he ends up... 6th. On the future, Will Buxton has this the future of the other Red Bull seat: That win wasn't just validation or vindication for @SChecoPerez, it was the clearest example of why he HAS to stay in ...

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Magnificent race by Perez, is this the first time someone's gone last-to-first since Canada 2011?
Russell, obviously.
Ended up on Sainz for the other vote, but could have been several others.

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Delighted for Perez, gutted for Russell.

George is really young, heir apparent to whichever Mercedes seat opens first, and will get other chances to win races. This could be Checo's only win, and for him to leave F1 without a win would have been a real injustice.

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Assuming it's a normal race with nothing odd going on I expect him to be 3rd, behind Bottas and Verstappen but ahead of Albon. That would a perfectly respectable result under the circumstances. In fact, this is how I'd see the potential results for Russell (again, this assumes it's a boring race wit...

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Voted for the podium. It continues to be mad that Perez has no seat next year.

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I can't find an on-board video from Norris's car looking forward during his incident with Stroll. I'm still trying to make sense of the stewards' verdict saying Stroll caused the accident. Especially so after the FP incident between Stroll and Verstappen, for which it was clear Verstappen was to bl...

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I would still keep Albon, despite the downward spiral he's in. We've been through this routine enough times Red Bull's second seat (Kvyat, Gasly, now Albon) to conclude that the problem is with the team, not the drivers. Red Bull need to figure out what it is about their team that prevents talented ...

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DOLOMITE wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:23 am

DOLOMITE wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:09 am
well that won't have helped.....
and neither will that. Lapped by your teammate despite no evident car troubles?....

Yeah, this is going downhill, sadly.

Red Bull need to figure out why they keep doing this to their drivers and make some changes.

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Gasly, Leclerc, Hamilton. Perez would have displaced Hamilton except for his excessive defence against Gasly.

(My girlfriend's view: Hamilton, Perez, Gasly)

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- Race was good. I was pessimistic given the layout, but happy to be proved wrong. - Max was very lucky to get away with understeering into Perez on lap 1. Not impressed with Max's "He took himself out", there have been penalties awarded for far less this season. - Great race from Perez, Gasly, Lecl...

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I am surprised that they didn't use the track variant with the first-corner chicane. I guess passing is probably possible at the T5 hairpin, but otherwise it looks like it will be restricted to DRS on the main straight.

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True, but I genuinely can't see a woman being competitive in modern F1 machinery, unless she was around 5ft tall, weighed sub 50kg that could give her a ballast advantage and she had no neck. If someone like that existed - or had enough aptitude to overcome such hurdles - I'm sure they would have b...

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To answer the title: Sure, why not? In more detail: The endurance demands of F1 are large but not extreme - the drivers need to be very fit, but we think the differences between drivers are mostly due to their ability to control the car rather than their peak physical performance, and there's no rea...

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In his first 3 seasons in the sport, Verstappen was arguably* better than Ricciardo (...) *In their races together during 2016 and 2017, Ricciardo scored more points with roughly the same number of races finished (+29 and +32), while in 2018 Verstappen scored 79 more but finished 4 more races (also...

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Taking the whole season into account & the issues both drivers faced on & off the track, i'd agree if you said Verstappen was the faster driver though I'm not convinced he was the better driver. Well given the legwork you've already kindly done, Ricciardo had 10 trouble free races, Verstappen had 1...

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Taking the whole season into account & the issues both drivers faced on & off the track, i'd agree if you said Verstappen was the faster driver though I'm not convinced he was the better driver. Well given the legwork you've already kindly done, Ricciardo had 10 trouble free races, Verstappen had 1...

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We can already get the Verstappen/Hamilton comparison - Verstappen - Ricciardo - Vettel - Raikkonen - Massa - Bottas - Hamilton This is the only one that holds any weight IMO. With the exception of Vettel/Ricciardo, every pair of teammates on the chain was partnered for multiple seasons, and we hav...

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Voted Albon, despite how much I'd like to see Perez get a drive in a frontrunning car. I think Red Bull need to pick their driver and put some faith in them. Gasly's problems were bigger than Albon's - the pace was similar, but Gasly tended to get stuck behind midfield cars, unable to pass (this fea...

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To repair his reputation, Vettel needs to trounce Stroll in a way that Perez has not come close to. Assuming Stroll's results in the Racing Point/Aston Martin are about where they are this year, that means consistently competing with Verstappen for the third podium spot and maybe winning a race or ...

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To repair his reputation, Vettel needs to trounce Stroll in a way that Perez has not come close to. Assuming Stroll's results in the Racing Point/Aston Martin are about where they are this year, that means consistently competing with Verstappen for the third podium spot and maybe winning a race or t...

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Is turn one going to be the only realistic place to overtake? Yeah there will be very limited overtaking. 1304130520125562880 Should be a better showing for Ferrari in their 1000th GP, slow and twisty track, really the only one since Hungary, where they looked a lot better than at the recent power ...

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I've watched F1 since the late '80s, and been lurking for a long time. Then... I finally sorted out the account creation process, so hi.

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I think this is kind of the wrong question - the penalty is the listed in the rules so the stewards don't have much discretion. What went wrong here was a failure of safety. If the pitlane is closed, it's for a safety-related reason, and so it should be blindingly obvious to all concerned that the p...

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