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FrogInARaceCar

Below are a classic examples of Hard but Fair driving where both drivers are trying their best to outdo one another with one trying to keep his attacker behind and the other trying to figure out a way past the guy up front, but they never exceed track bounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-ZMQpd...

FrogInARaceCar

I really don't understand what your objection actually is but I also really don't want to get into the weeds of Suzuka 1989, I picked it because I thought it was pretty uncontroversial that Prost hit Senna on purpose, marking the start of well-known incidents of drivers seeking to gain an advantage ...

FrogInARaceCar

F1 should appropriately punish professional fouls. It's really that simple, all of this is a sideline. We know Max is only doing this stuff because he thinks the crime is worth the time. The problem is that there's a long, long history (1989!) of not doing that. 1989? I doubt we even know half of w...

FrogInARaceCar

F1 should appropriately punish professional fouls. It's really that simple, all of this is a sideline. We know Max is only doing this stuff because he thinks the crime is worth the time.

The problem is that there's a long, long history (from 1989!) of not doing that.

FrogInARaceCar

It's 2021 all over again.

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Well that was a refreshing dose of cynicism from the stewards!

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Max at some point in 2021, either for one of the many incidents being recognised as cynical, or for an accumulation of points from extremely aggressive moves directed towards his championship rival. The failure of the stewards to act early to enforce driving standards was a big part of why that seas...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-KvaeOO0f0 Seems like Perez hit albon earlier too. Incredibly careless. What he did on Tsunoda actually doesn't look quite as bad as I thought, but it still resulted in retirement for tstnoda. The fact neither of these were investigated is crazy. Messy race from Per...

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The ineffectiveness of the 5s penalty that seemed to be given in response to any misbehaviour is a big part of why 2021 got so messy. The crime was worth the time, particularly in the context of a two horse race. They've ended up in the opposite place of the late 2000s, where the only penalty availa...

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I mean, I didn't particularly rate NdV based on his performance against Vandoorne, who IMO outperformed him at Mercedes EQ. But if you're going to sign a new driver, at least give him a season to find his feet.

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Edit - And I can see why someone, having toiled through the 7 years of Merc, would feel like giving up after being flung almost straight back into what looks like another era of domination. Especially given the one buffer season finished in highly unsatisfactory circumstance. I suppose we had last ...

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The other reason for me to lose interest was that I was really hoping that the cost cap would close up the field and end this pattern of one team winning everything. That's... not what's happened.

The last time that either the WDC or WCC wasn't won by a car from Team Brackley or Red Bull was 2008.

FrogInARaceCar

2021 did a lot of damage to my enthusiasm for F1. It wasn't just the fiasco in Abu Dhabi, the whole back half of the season was a complete breakdown in rules enforcement leading to a bitter, mean-spirited mess. In retrospect it reminds me a lot of 1994 minus Imola. The cost cap revelations in 2022 m...

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Why can't they announce the penalty at the same time as announcing the breach? It's hardly unforeseeable. As for the penalty... They have a golden oppertunity to be harsh on a minor breach without actually effecting a championship. They could take 150 points off Red Bull for both 2021 and 2022 and ...

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If that rules surprise about the points awarded had changed the result of the championship it would have been a near Abu Dhabi-level fiasco

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I was thinking of Max Mosley this morning. He didn't run things perfectly either but you could definitely have faith that the FIA would not consider the effect on the show if it had to make any rulings any his stewardship. The good and the bad can be seen in the Ferrari bargeboard fiasco if 99. Fer...

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The Alpha Tauri/Red Bull relationship has always been problematic and open to abuse, and sending a car out of the pits to immediately retire it on the road is deeply odd... but the conspiracy theory makes no sense. As others have said, they probably would have won the race even without the VSC, and ...

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Examples of Masi incompetence. Well there’s a few to chose from 1.2020 Turkish GP Qualifying. Resending the cars back out on track after a red flag when there was a recovery vehicle still on track in wet conditions. We all remember what can happen in that situation unfortunately from 2014. 2.2020 I...

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I've always admired Fernando's unwavering commitment to the art of terrible career moves, so I'm obviously on the edge of my seat to see how things will go at Aston Martin. It looks like it's not the case this time, reading the article on the F1 Official site, Alpine didn't see a long term future f...

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I've always admired Fernando's unwavering commitment to the art of terrible career moves, so I'm obviously on the edge of my seat to see how things will go at Aston Martin.

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I voted zero-tolerance, but I don't mind if they don't do precisely that. What matters to me is that they pick a rule and stick with it rather than chopping and changing.

Zero-tolerance also requires a solution for what happens when a car gets pushed off the track.

FrogInARaceCar

Eh, best not to worry if you don't like this version of the rules for overtaking , there'll be another one invented in a few races time.

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I was there in person. One thing that I think has been missed was that the safety car was completely avoidable. Ocon's engine was gone by the exit of Luffield, but he then cruised down the old pits straight and parked on the entry to Copse. He could very easily have just pulled into the old pit entr...

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Yeah, I don't understand why Perez was allowed to keep that. Leclerc left him room to make the corner at Vale (much more he gave Charles at the exit of Stowe), but he chose instead to shortcut the first apex of Club, drove all the way across while rejoining and in doing so stayed ahead of Leclerc (e...

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But with no other competition it's a really narrow circumstance your being tested in. Does the best driver make the best benchmark? At the end of the day it's still only one driver, which is unusual for someone who had a career as long as Rosberg's. Good question here - who on the current grid is t...

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Red Bull team principal Christian Horner has accused rivals of pushing for drivers to "bitch" about issues related to porpoising. Asked what he would do as team principal if his drivers were driving a car with such violent porpoising, he replied: "Tell them to bitch as much as they could over the r...

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Grand Totals Adjusted qualifying: 35-31 to Grosjean. Adjusted races: 39-34 to Magnussen. Both Grosjean and Magnussen were evenly matched across their four seasons together with Grosjean holding a slim edge over one lap and Magnussen having the advantage in the race. However, the trend is clear: Gro...

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Found this while digging through a box of old stuff...

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Monaco has been an anachronism for at least 30 years. The current track works for Formula E but F1 cars are big and fast enough to need a new layout, including at least one usable DRS zone. I'd look to retain the segment from Beau Rivage to the swimming pool, but the rest is up for grabs. I'd leave...

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Monaco has been an anachronism for at least 30 years. The current track works for Formula E but F1 cars are big and fast enough to need a new layout, including at least one usable DRS zone. I'd look to retain the segment from Beau Rivage to the swimming pool, but the rest is up for grabs. I'd leave ...

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Race was OK, pity the surface was so bad offline. The surrounding faff was a bit much but the live event seemed to be a big success.

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Albon, Leclerc, and for reasons that made sense in my head, Bottas.

Not clear what Perez did that was special given Verstappen retired from ahead of him.

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I'd love to see Sebring. It's long, it's wide, there's a good mix of corners and there are some obvious DRS zones, but there would no longer be any way to avoid the resurfacing debate. COTA is a good track and should be kept. I think Indy should get another go. The memories from the 2000s aren't gre...

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I can't imagine European and US-based F1 teams going to Sochi this year given recent events.

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The issues with Masi didn't start in Abu Dhabi 2021, that was just the final straw. I'm pleased to see the FIA accepting the need for reform and look forward to seeing the changes work in practice.

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I think it's possible to have this debate on this topic, but this thread is about pushing an agenda rather than having an actual conversation.

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"Team X's drivers were faster on more weekends than Team Y" does not prove "Team X's car was better than Team Y's".

FrogInARaceCar

Well, those messages do not show Masi in a good light. He shouldn't be letting competitors manipulate him and especially not at a time like that.

FrogInARaceCar

It's also worth noting that Alfa do not have a driver of the calibre of Russell. Latifi is probably more comparable to Kimi and Gio and he has usually been behind both of them and was outqualified by both of them. Russell has the highest qualifying average of the four but he's by far the best quali...

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I think the answer is that while Masi's actions were unprecedented and represented a drastic break from previous practice, the stewards (or FIA appeals court) were never going to overturn them because: a) there's enough wiggle room in the badly-written regulations to just about justify Masi's decisi...

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