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joshb

He'd have won 4 titles, he was brilliant in them cars, regardless of relative pace. Once he relearns how to drive cars like 2007-2009 with reduced rear grip, he'll be right up there again. Sometimes its harder to relearn something that to just learn it... old habits. I feared at the start of 2014 th...

joshb

Everyone said this about Vettel in 2008

Wait until Dan is challenging for titles and the expectation is there that he wins, rather than the underdog triumphs

joshb

Or Vergne and Liuzzi (who outqualified rookie Vettel there) are Hungary specialists and it's not even Vettel's best track! hopefully this is the start of the resurgence and not just the one off, but since we got into Europe, except Austria, Seb has been right there, just without the rub of the green...

joshb

Either way, Red Bull, who had been very good operationally have slipped this year. They could've had 2nd/3rd in Oz, 3rd/4th in Malaysia and Bahrain which is 87 pts They have 35 pts Look how Ferrari backed up Alonso in 2012 to keep him in it. I know the Mercs are miles clear of anything and barring p...

joshb

Can you buy an app for the PC?

As I have no fancy phone or device other than a laptop, I'm disappointed if the only timing I can get is that

joshb

Whilst he may not be an obvious 2nd half of the season man, let's take it in thirds 2009/10/12/13- the final 1/3 of races, his points per race is so much higher than the other 2/3 points per race I think over 25 of his wins have come in the final third of the season. Get to September/October and he ...

joshb

Top 5 is too hard
The 38 races Vettel won in this period

joshb

What''s happened is now the Red Bull is a very planted, very stable car. Earlier in the year it wasn't as good but Vettel drove round those problems and Webber couldn't quite as much, but not the car is very nicely hooked up, Webber is confident and much closer to Seb, like Massa and Alonso last yea...

joshb

He was faultless in Malaysia! He won the race from pole, despite pitting too early and having to overtake 2 cars When Seb's biggest error was locking up in China on the last lap when he could've had a run on Hamilton or running on at Turn 1 in Canada when 20 seconds in the lead, you know its been pr...

joshb

Yeah I don't buy this reckless tag because in 2010, he'd had only TWO crashes (Turkey/Spa)... yes he barged his way past Sutil at Silverstone but its not as if he had a prang ever other race... hell Alonso had as many if not more crashes than Vettel in 2010 but he was never branded a crasher. But Sp...

joshb

As for who I'd axe, definitely Hill. Just dour and has nothing insightful to say... and I was a Schumacher fan so I'm less good at forgetting the past. I really like Allan McNish- his accent and the way he describes something is really good- you can really feel the excitement he gets out of it. So I...

joshb

Sutton wrote:Makes me wonder who out of the current grid is set for puditry?

Mark Webber would be fantastic!

Webber will be offered a gig somewhere, either Sky/BBC or Australian coverage

joshb

It isn't boring because he's chasing records and making history. I tuned in on Sunday hoping he would make it 5 in a row and to possibly seal the title and before qualy I wanted him on pole because no-one has ever had 3 straight grand chelems... he may probably never get 2 in a row again, so he may ...

joshb

Yep... the results of that twitter poll too just shows the effect Vettel/RB dominance has had on people... its nuclear meltdown!

And it's great, i'm sure they feed off the tears of the bitter

joshb

Alonso will be 2nd to Vettel for the 3rd year in 4 (and close to 2nd in 2011) and in 2 of those 3 it has been a big gap to 3rd.
No fluke about that

joshb

All Alonso proved since 2010 is that he can't win the title when he doesn't have the best car... yet no-one mentions that either

joshb

But also agree re testing. Its a joke and in 10 years, the grid may only have a couple of top drivers... only Hulk for me has shown genuine quality since the full testing ban. Seb and Lewis just got in before testing stopped and actually there is possibly the best grid of drivers for a long long tim...

joshb

Seb may not be the fastest, though i think he probably is.
He may not be the most complete, it's touch and go
But he is the most successful... and that's a fact

joshb

WHY DIDN'T KIMI AND GROSJEAN WEIGH IN.... BOOOOOOOOOOO!

joshb

Seb was flawless again but even one of his most ardent fans will appreciate the efforts of Hulkenberg... amazing performance.

joshb

I have an excel file denoting all the races and then I converted the points to the modern spec. Even half point races were given full points in this instance though and there's no points for Fastest lap, unlike the 50s 806 drivers have entered a GP (excludes Friday testers and some of the 806 may no...

joshb

Well we did get through about 8 posts before Vettel DNF was mentioned! Qualy- Hamilton or Alonso Race- Alonso Hopefully Seb will get a podium and Rosberg will have an inspired win though to minimise any damage But one thing- lump it on Massa top 6 at odds of 13/8. Even he can't spin in a straight li...

joshb

2012 was Vettel's scrappiest year in qualy yet he still be a qualy master 11-9. Hamilton could give him a good run over a season. Alonso would make a respectable effort, other than that, they may get 4 or 5 over the year but not many more

joshb

His debut in America was solid enough for the ITV commentators to give him a mention amid 2 hours of pro-Hamilton propaganda but it wasn't until Fuji when he burst onto the spotlight. Granted, the STR was crap and in the dry it was hard to make it stand out but when he got his chance in the wet, he ...

joshb

Button got a title because when he had a car capable of doing it, he had Barrichello as teammate
Webber hasn't got a title because when he's had a capable car, he's had Vettel as a teammate

joshb

Warheart, I really didnt want Hamilton (or Rosberg) to win this race, but seeing his tyre blow up didnt bring the slightest bit of joy whatsoever, for one we were robbed of what could have been a good battle between him and Vettel, and two it was incredibly dangerous. I have the horrible feeling th...

joshb

It would have been very good had it stuck... one bookmaker had him 1/6 (from 1/3 pre race) to win the title just before his retirement. Blown wide open but still in a good position.

joshb

joshb

Alonso's perceived weakness in qualy is a bit like Vettel's perceived weakness in overtaking- both are partly down to their cars Alonso's car is not the best over 1 lap so he can often end up 3 rows back and Vettel's cars are not set up to overtake so when he does get behind traffic, he hasn't got t...

joshb

He has.
It's 7-0 in qualy and 7-0 in race results thus far in 2013

joshb

I still think he's got it!
Just Pizzonia wasn't very good but Vettel is amazing

My view.

joshb

Schumacher 7 titles in 18 full seasons
Vettel 3 titles in 5 full seasons

Schumacher 91 wins in 308 races
Vettel 29 wins in 108 races

Schumacher 68 poles in 308 races
Vettel 39 poles in 108 races

Not a bad comparison either

joshb

Yeah disagree about the F2004 not being the best. It was far and away the best car, as well as Button drove that year. I agree Sato didn't do the BAR justice but Button had a very good year in 2004- Schumi only tailed off slightly once he'd won 12 of the first 13 races

joshb

Hate is a strong word... but clearly for some mad reason (most likely because he wins and beats their favourite driver/team) people do take a strong dislike to Seb It's clear that the world today would rather a plucky loser than a consistent winner- it's uncool to do well for some reason. But I can ...

joshb

What were Vettel's 2007 cars like? The STR in 07 must be somewhere like -1.5 to -2 easily and the BMW -0.5 or slower So Vettel can claim to have won in the least competitive machinery (the 08 Toro Rosso) but has had on avergae better cars relative to the other 2. I wonder who would be the driver who...

joshb

Congrats to Seb Vettel who now holds the outright record for most consecutive GPs without a DNF caused by crash... 58 races going back to Turkey 2010. Going past Nick Heidfeld He's had bumps like all the others but has always finished or scored points after continuing To the Crash Kid :thumbup: :thu...

joshb

Also, Seb has now claimed the outright record for most successive races without a DNF caused by a crash!
Turkey 2010 was the last time hw RETIRED due to collision

joshb

The bloke is just amazing... The only time the RB is the fastest is when its wet/damp.
Not the best in qualy
Not the best in races

but close enough and Seb is doing the job so far

Kimi's worst 3 races = 9 points
Alonso's worst 3 races = 10 points
Seb's worst 3 races = 39 points

joshb

Well Sebastian, you wanna be the G.O.A.T.? Well there are at least 4 very sound ways to do it. But note that they're extremely difficult! - The Fangio way: Quit Red Bull and go win the title with four different teams (and engines). Win 50% of the races you start. - The Senna way: Be the teammate of...

joshb

It will probably only be when he finishes that we could sit down and say G.O.A.T or not, or best of his era, but he's got as good a shout as anyone right now

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