Not even Edmund himself believed that!tootsie323 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:24 amPrecisely. Does anyone believe that Irvine and Barichello were better than Schumacher. Does anyone believe that Button and Rosberg were better than Hamilton? Next - would you put those four drovers in roughly the same bracket?
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- Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:00 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
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Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
- Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:57 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Help please you kind Pf1ers
- Replies: 55
- Views: 4204
Re: Help please you kind Pf1ers
Sorry Dolo, I just got around doing it. No apology necessary, you don't owe me anything! Looks like DC was actually a good test though as I hadn't realised just how much Webber had dominated. I'm guessing peoples perception here is often affected by how good the car was at the time the teammates we...
- Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:04 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Help please you kind Pf1ers
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Re: Help please you kind Pf1ers
OK well some more votes would have been good, but forum seems pretty quiet right now. So my system compares the following 4 metrics across the two teammates over all their races together: [Average Qualifying Position Ahead in Qualifying Average Finish Position When Both Finished Ahead When Both Fini...
- Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:08 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Help please you kind Pf1ers
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- Views: 4204
Re: Help please you kind Pf1ers
So 100% of us have put Klien last, not surprisingly. I'm a little surprised by all the Hakkinen #1 votes. I wonder if those are from people misunderstanding the purpose of the vote? While Hakkinen is very likely the best of the five drivers, my feeling is that he did not dominate Coulthard the way ...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:24 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Help please you kind Pf1ers
- Replies: 55
- Views: 4204
Re: Help please you kind Pf1ers
I don't think I will be able to do it without thorough analysis which would take ages, as an overview he seemed to get beat quite easily by Hakkinen, Kimi and Webber, was a bit closer to Hill and better than Klein. That's kind of the aim really though to see if the method supports or contradicts yo...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:14 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Female Racing Drivers
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Re: Female Racing Drivers
So who do we have racing in 2021 ?... SINGLE-SEATERS INDYCAR Simona de Silvestro (Indy 500 only) FORMULA REGIONAL EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP Lena Buhler SUPER FORMULA CHAMPIONSHIP Tatiana Calderon SUPER FORMULA LIGHTS Miki Koyama (Japan) F3 ASIA Amna Alqubaisi Ira Sidorkova W SERIES Abbie Eaton (England...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:27 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Help please you kind Pf1ers
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Re: Help please you kind Pf1ers
I'll hold off on voting until the poll is sorted out but it's actually quite a touch exercise. Are we taking into account things like Kimi being very inexperienced in 2002 or are we judging them purely in isolation without any context around the performances? The mind instantly wants to put Hakkine...
- Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:56 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Help please you kind Pf1ers
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- Views: 4204
- Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:13 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Help please you kind Pf1ers
- Replies: 55
- Views: 4204
- Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:50 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Help please you kind Pf1ers
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Help please you kind Pf1ers
I've been dicking about with yet-another-stats rating system and I want to see how it performs. Simply put the aim to to rank a drivers teammates in order of how close they were matched. I won't go into the methodology here because 1) they're all flawed anyway 2) I don't have to and 3) I'm not sure ...
- Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:43 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
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Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Hamilton had Button comfortably beat for 2.5 seasons out of 3. 2010, Hamilton dominated Button. Button finished ahead of Hamilton 3 times when both finished. 2 were in mixed conditions when Button gambled (whilst behind Hamilton) and won the race. The other was in Japan when Hamitlon was a long way...
- Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
- Replies: 1662
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Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
In my opinion, you can find reasons to give Schumacher the nod and such to give Hamilton the nod. It's a close call. Two things, for me, decide it in Hamilton's favour: - he raced stronger teammates, and - Schumacher had more and more severe unfair actions ("lack of sportsmanship"). :thumbup: but I...
- Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:20 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Official Moto GP 2021 Thread
- Replies: 85
- Views: 12815
Re: Official Moto GP 2021 Thread
I would be very surprised if he's not sraight back in at the top, assuming the bike is good enough.Asphalt_World wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:49 amSo, Marc Marques is officially back and will race next week. Will be very interesting to see how quick he is after 9 months out.
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
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Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
"instrumental", yep that's a common one too. I just find it frustrating that there are no examples of the kind of things he did. If I was to go as far as describing a member of my team at work as "instrumental" I like to think I'd be able to then cite plenty of examples that justify that. Things lik...
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:26 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
- Replies: 1662
- Views: 127325
Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
well just to weigh in, I tried to find first-hand accounts on the web that gave examples of what Schu actually did other than motivate people, work hard, and drive brilliantly. For example did he actually specify people for recruitment, suggest team restructures, investment in specifc technologies ...
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:57 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
- Replies: 1662
- Views: 127325
Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
well just to weigh in, I tried to find first-hand accounts on the web that gave examples of what Schu actually did other than motivate people, work hard, and drive brilliantly. For example did he actually specify people for recruitment, suggest team restructures, investment in specifc technologies ...
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:40 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
- Replies: 1662
- Views: 127325
Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
well just to weigh in, I tried to find first-hand accounts on the web that gave examples of what Schu actually did other than motivate people, work hard, and drive brilliantly. For example did he actually specify people for recruitment, suggest team restructures, investment in specifc technologies e...
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:32 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] F1 Saturday sprint race
- Replies: 131
- Views: 12925
Re: Sprint races to replace Saturday qualifying?
I fear it's going to be here to stay. More people will undoubtedly watch on Friday now actual quali happens then and more people will watch on Saturday because it's something new. That's what the powers that be are after. They won't care if it makes the product poorer. Only if it makes it more sale...
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:10 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
- Replies: 1007
- Views: 369798
Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Does Nico Hulkenberg going AM put pressure on Vettel? That's a high profile reserve driver! I don't think so, but if Vettel doesn't improve signficantly on that opening weekend you have to wonder at what point would the team consider subbing Nico. It's way to early to judge Vettel yet, but if he's ...
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:56 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Female Racing Drivers
- Replies: 3401
- Views: 748861
Re: Female Racing Drivers
Yep, looks like I was correct with this. They wanted a Bronze and Esmee would be Silver. So from the criteria above whoever takes her place is old and not very good, old but inexperienced, or young and inexperienced. Great. I wonder when the FIA license was applied for, could it have been before sh...
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:41 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] F1 Saturday sprint race
- Replies: 131
- Views: 12925
Re: Sprint races to replace Saturday qualifying?
I fear it's going to be here to stay. More people will undoubtedly watch on Friday now actual quali happens then and more people will watch on Saturday because it's something new. That's what the powers that be are after. They won't care if it makes the product poorer. Only if it makes it more sale...
- Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:36 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Female Racing Drivers
- Replies: 3401
- Views: 748861
Re: Female Racing Drivers
or not..... Esmee has been dropped due to "her manager having provided incorrect information to the FIA through the mandatory application form.". Something to do with the ranking system. More to follow I guess. Gobsmacked and gutted for her, she was so excited... Either she's qualified for the seri...
- Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:05 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Female Racing Drivers
- Replies: 3401
- Views: 748861
- Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:22 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] F1 Saturday sprint race
- Replies: 131
- Views: 12925
Re: Sprint races to replace Saturday qualifying?
So basically what's being proposed is a qualifying session in a race format. It would help if they didn't call it a race...but it is one. Only the "reward" isn't a race win it's your grid-slot for Sunday. Its a mess however you look at it. So what is a Pole now? P1 on Friday even though you could en...
- Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:10 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] F1 Saturday sprint race
- Replies: 131
- Views: 12925
Re: Sprint races to replace Saturday qualifying?
I don't know whether this has already been asked / addressed but I assume that a Sprint race win does not count towards overall Grand Prix wins? What with it being more of a 'Mini-Prix.' More specifically, how will this look against a driver's stats? For example, should Hamilton be on 99 GP wins go...
- Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:11 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] F1 Saturday sprint race
- Replies: 131
- Views: 12925
Re: Sprint races to replace Saturday qualifying?
I don't know whether this has already been asked / addressed but I assume that a Sprint race win does not count towards overall Grand Prix wins? What with it being more of a 'Mini-Prix.' "he shorter sprint is set to offer a small number of points too, with three on offer for the winner, two for sec...
- Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:09 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Female Racing Drivers
- Replies: 3401
- Views: 748861
Re: Female Racing Drivers
or not..... Esmee has been dropped due to "her manager having provided incorrect information to the FIA through the mandatory application form.". Something to do with the ranking system. More to follow I guess. Gobsmacked and gutted for her, she was so excited... Either she's qualified for the seri...
- Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:48 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Anyone still on here from 9 years ago?!
- Replies: 355
- Views: 72780
Re: Anyone still on here from 9 years ago?!
wow, some real blasts from the past there. Might just be me bit feels like we had an older demograpic "back in the day". And I'm still unsure if we even have any female posters these days. I miss Guia. And Laura was quite good and informed both great contributors, Guia was unique in her style.
- Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:07 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Anyone still on here from 9 years ago?!
- Replies: 355
- Views: 72780
Re: Anyone still on here from 9 years ago?!
wow, some real blasts from the past there. Might just be me bit feels like we had an older demograpic "back in the day". And I'm still unsure if we even have any female posters these days.
- Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:24 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] F1 Saturday sprint race
- Replies: 131
- Views: 12925
Re: Sprint races to replace Saturday qualifying?
I don't know whether this has already been asked / addressed but I assume that a Sprint race win does not count towards overall Grand Prix wins? What with it being more of a 'Mini-Prix.' "he shorter sprint is set to offer a small number of points too, with three on offer for the winner, two for sec...
- Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:06 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Extreme E in the desert - Live!
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2851
Re: Extreme E in the desert - Live!
The split times are available here The times from the final show how bad an issue the visibility was (I left out Loeb/Guiterrez as no power stearing made them uncompetitive). https://i.postimg.cc/KY72xfKR/final-Times.png Hansen was 30s slower than he'd been in his heat and 14s slower than Munnings ...
- Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: [Merged] F1 Saturday sprint race
- Replies: 131
- Views: 12925
Re: Sprint races to replace Saturday qualifying?
I'm still slightly in shock that this looking like it's actually going to happen. Worst suggestion to get the go ahead since the double-points debacle.
- Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:51 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Official Moto GP 2021 Thread
- Replies: 85
- Views: 12815
Re: Official Moto GP 2021 Thread
They've had that starting system for a couple of years as well. I know but I watched last year and maybe it's just me but I don't recall the difference being so evident during either starts or the race. Martins pass on Quarteraro with 4 laps left was ludicrous. Anyway, whether the advantage is the ...
- Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:48 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Female Racing Drivers
- Replies: 3401
- Views: 748861
Re: Female Racing Drivers
Esme Hawkey (23), current British Porsche Carrera Cup Pro-Am champion has signed to drive for Deborak Mayer's Iron Dames in the European Le Mans series where she will pilot a Ferrari 488 GTE Evo. Controversially dropped from W Series after, in her debut season in single seaters/open wheel cars, rac...
- Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:42 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Female Racing Drivers
- Replies: 3401
- Views: 748861
Re: Female Racing Drivers
Esme Hawkey (23), current British Porsche Carrera Cup Pro-Am champion has signed to drive for Deborak Mayer's Iron Dames in the European Le Mans series where she will pilot a Ferrari 488 GTE Evo. Controversially dropped from W Series after, in her debut season in single seaters/open wheel cars, rac...
- Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:00 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Female Racing Drivers
- Replies: 3401
- Views: 748861
Re: Female Racing Drivers
Day 1 of the ADAC (German) F4 test at Zandvoort saw Hamda Al Qubaisi set the 14th fastest time some 3.4s off the pace of Ollie Bearman and 2.7s behind 2nd & 3rd fastest, Prema team mates Kirill Smal & Sebastien Montoya . She was quicker than 2 other team mates Charlie Wurz & Conrad Laursen. Times w...
- Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:58 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Official Moto GP 2021 Thread
- Replies: 85
- Views: 12815
Re: Official Moto GP 2021 Thread
Got to be excited by Acosta. In MotoGP, Quarterraro finally looked like the rider everyone wants him to be. If he can ride with that commitment every weekend we are in for a treat. Just how much power advantage do the Ducatis have though? I have never seen bikes just blast past from 20m back. The D...
- Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:41 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Official Moto GP 2021 Thread
- Replies: 85
- Views: 12815
Re: Official Moto GP 2021 Thread
Got to be excited by Acosta. In MotoGP, Quarterraro finally looked like the rider everyone wants him to be. If he can ride with that commitment every weekend we are in for a treat. Just how much power advantage do the Ducatis have though? I have never seen bikes just blast past from 20m back. The D...
- Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:58 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Official Moto GP 2021 Thread
- Replies: 85
- Views: 12815
Re: Official Moto GP 2021 Thread
Got to be excited by Acosta. In MotoGP, Quarterraro finally looked like the rider everyone wants him to be. If he can ride with that commitment every weekend we are in for a treat. Just how much power advantage do the Ducatis have though? I have never seen bikes just blast past from 20m back.
- Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:46 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Extreme E in the desert - Live!
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2851
Re: Extreme E in the desert - Live!
I liked the action, as others have said both Taylor & Munnings impressed behind the wheel. IMO the cars are not quick enough, a road going Tesla is almost 50% faster to 100kph. The lack of visibility for chasing cars effectively means a race lasts 20 seconds, I'd suggest different formats in differ...